Elec/Shield/Blaze Yay or Nay?

Does anyone think this combo will work well in I16? I know the testers are under the NDA, but anyone knows the set can predict how well it may perform.

What do you guys think? Yay or Nay?

It will perform extremely well in the AoE department if you can get the build to work.

I foresee difficulties in soft capping it while fitting in everything you might want from the three sets and attaining a reasonable amount of +recharge.

End Pig eh?? Thats no fun. I do have decent money to pour into him.. which sets would u recommend?

Here is a Elm/SD/Blaze that I've been fooling around with since I found out about getting blaze mastery. Obviously this is based on the brute Elm and the Tank Pyre master sets barring that nothing changes:
Now while there are a few of the "shinies" in the build I'm not really sure how important they really would be to the build, I put them there because I plan on dumping alot of cash into my Elm/Shield to make it my "premier" scrapper. I'm also thinking about tossing a coula slots from stamina into Charged Brawl and Havoc Punch for the Sandman chance to heal self procs...we'll see, but neither of those would effect the def numbers which the build is capped to all positions.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

elm-sd-blaze: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Electric Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
------------
Level 1: Charged Brawl
(A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(3) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(9) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance


Level 1: Deflection
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 2: Havoc Punch
(A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(3) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(9) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge


Level 4: Battle Agility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 6: True Grit
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal


Level 8: Combat Jumping
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(11) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
(37) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


Level 10: Active Defense
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 12: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO


Level 14: Health
(A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration


Level 16: Thunder Strike
(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(17) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(17) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
(21) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(23) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(25) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 18: Chain Induction
(A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(19) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(19) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(27) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
(40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(43) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge


Level 22: Phalanx Fighting
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%


Level 24: Against All Odds
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 26: Super Jump
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(27) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance


Level 28: Boxing
(A) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Endurance
(31) Razzle Dazzle - Endurance/Stun
(31) Razzle Dazzle - Stun/Range
(34) Razzle Dazzle - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
(43) Razzle Dazzle - Chance of Immobilize


Level 30: Build Up
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance


Level 32: Lightning Rod
(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(33) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
(33) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(34) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 35: Shield Charge
(A) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage
(36) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance
(36) Multi Strike - Damage/Recharge
(36) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance
(37) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 38: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%


Level 41: Ring of Fire
(A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
(42) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
(43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(46) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize


Level 44: Fire Blast
(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(45) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 47: Fire Ball
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range


Level 49: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed


------------
Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty


Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty


Level 1: Critical Hit
------------
Set Bonus Totals:
5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
5% DamageBuff(Fire)
5% DamageBuff(Cold)
5% DamageBuff(Energy)
5% DamageBuff(Negative)
5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
11.4% Defense(Smashing)
11.4% Defense(Lethal)
9.88% Defense(Fire)
9.88% Defense(Cold)
11.1% Defense(Energy)
11.1% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
16.1% Defense(Melee)
15.5% Defense(Ranged)
16.8% Defense(AoE)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
64% Enhancement(Accuracy)
2% Enhancement(Stun)
48.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
14% FlySpeed
145.6 HP (10.9%) HitPoints
14% JumpHeight
14% JumpSpeed
Knockback (Mag -4)
Knockup (Mag -4)
MezResist(Immobilize) 6.6%
MezResist(Sleep) 4.95%
MezResist(Stun) 4.95%
11.5% (0.19 End/sec) Recovery
42% (2.35 HP/sec) Regeneration
4.41% Resistance(Fire)
4.41% Resistance(Cold)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)
14% RunSpeed



------------
Set Bonuses:
Crushing Impact
(Charged Brawl)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Deflection)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Crushing Impact
(Havoc Punch)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Luck of the Gambler
(Battle Agility)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Numina's Convalescence
(True Grit)
12% (0.67 HP/sec) Regeneration


Blessing of the Zephyr
(Combat Jumping)
3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)
3.13% Defense(AoE), 1.56% Defense(Fire), 1.56% Defense(Cold)
Knockback Protection (Mag -4)


Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Multi Strike
(Thunder Strike)
MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
0.95% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
1.88% Defense(AoE), 0.94% Defense(Fire), 0.94% Defense(Cold)
1.88% Defense(Melee), 0.94% Defense(Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Smashing)


Crushing Impact
(Chain Induction)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
2.5% DamageBuff(All)


Blessing of the Zephyr
(Super Jump)
3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)


Razzle Dazzle
(Boxing)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
20.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
2% Enhancement(Stun)
2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing)
2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)


Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control
(Build Up)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
25.1 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
2.5% Defense(Melee), 1.25% Defense(Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Smashing), 2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative), 2.5% Defense(AoE), 1.25% Defense(Fire), 1.25% Defense(Cold)


Multi Strike
(Lightning Rod)
MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
0.95% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
1.88% Defense(AoE), 0.94% Defense(Fire), 0.94% Defense(Cold)
1.88% Defense(Melee), 0.94% Defense(Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Smashing)


Multi Strike
(Shield Charge)
MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
0.95% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
MezResist(Stun) 1.65%
1.88% Defense(AoE), 0.94% Defense(Fire), 0.94% Defense(Cold)


Steadfast Protection
(Tough)
3% Defense(All)


Enfeebled Operation
(Ring of Fire)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)
2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
3.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.13% Defense(Melee), 1.56% Defense(Lethal), 1.56% Defense(Smashing)


Thunderstrike
(Fire Blast)
2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
2.5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
4% RunSpeed, 4% FlySpeed, 4% JumpSpeed, 4% JumpHeight
2.5% Defense(Ranged), 1.25% Defense(Energy), 1.25% Defense(Negative)


Positron's Blast
(Fire Ball)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)


Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)
10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
15.1 HP (1.12%) HitPoints (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)






| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1420;692;1384;HEX;|
|78DAA5934B4F135114C7EFD0D6423B6D194A5B9EB64550A07 6849D8F44178209094|
|D1A51562A99962B4C320E65668AE0CA0FE042017585AFF85C FB488C1FC4887E15C4|
|F3B8AD0B8D1B27F0FFF59E39E7CCB9FFB953D99CD185B87B4 168C98B8EE5FB4B0B7|
|5CF6A34A4D75969065660AFB9BA746E95FDE572CDB1EEC8A8 1062B895B254918E94|
|E6AC23EB8167D779996FDF9D9137A5EB4B7361D596CE726B6 9CCB9ABD2936E60B67|
|EE8D5B535C79C9756C376577871C90E5CE9FB09B558590DE0 9641AB3977C3F6ED9A|
|EDD8C19631DBB0EB6675CB934B15CB0FA4B7D507F34DC0FF8 1685D8761217168D1B|
|14CE8AC139235C290458825001AA5874437FC981661837024 4DD033849FAD3468AB|
|FDB52DF71BE2EE71681B526D43FF68AB435E84F3B4C822856 2570959303CAA3A44F|
|73B68D6EF84BE1F1D9830CA1D12D0A18BF3445749602802A5 719E55C4CB344F1442|
|09959538AF6148034D715624D5A0ACEE758647E8F509D980D 0D724E0A60CE583C13|
|EF4B00F3DEC43960D18603B3AE1B9697E6E38FD98C6EFDD26 8C3E229CD8214CEED2|
|9E52B0998C1A3373C0BE422887B3422857A4500E9AF6F30C5 A3F5B33C0D66870675|
|0ED69D0A76D1E6D3202C606A1789B30B94910AC5435FC8E1A 1D7FCB78C978C5B3BE|
|66BC21E06BCBABAA3CFB5760FF0AEC5F81FD2BB27F45F6CF8 0ED8C28FF461AF4BA8|
|EAD333C864F186D1242B0A131F52AC77234E7D79010E3EAB9 E3F7E90C4C3C606C33|
|760893BB84F243C237A82AA9AAD21EF53EF984F194F18C507 ECE7841D8872A93AB4|
|2E67B0A9DFAC0F8C8F84408C39853EAB04EF1719FEE65F071 9FE6C33A146E7F9CF0|
|079798FF23520DB7BF34A15124FF3BE7BFAECF7AAB4FD7E51 8E815942ACA22CA359|
|4EB2837502C941A4A1DE5F04BBB3A751A073A837216E51CCA 3D4C8AE2671747D151|
|12284994144A374A1A258B3280B28772F80B58D801C7|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Sure, the devs are supposed to listen to their customers, mister business 101 out there. And if I decide to start suggesting that the devs change the game from being about superheroes and supervillains to being about clowns that is my right as well, and technically Paragon Studios is supposed to pay attention to me. But I hope strongly that they assume a meth-head somehow managed to hack into my forum account and make paper airplanes out of my posts, because I hope they recognize stupid when they see it. I assume they will recognize futile just as accurately.

I'd trade Ring of Fire for Char, and stick either a Basilisk's Gaze or a Lockdown in there for the set bonuses, depending wether you want more defense or less defense and more recharge.

Similarly, Multi-strike really doesn't do it for me in Lightning Rod or Shield Charge, you really REALLY want more recharge in them! Scirocco is a good option IMO, you can get to the defense bonus with 5 enhancements and stick a recharge IO to really hit the recharge softcap. Obliteration could work too. It makes it more endurance heavy, but I really can't think of Shield Charge or Lightning Rod without 90+ recharge from enhancements. An IO with rech/end to fill in the extra slot (from Kinetic Crash for example) could work as well I guess.

I'd consider Stupefy over Razzle Dazzle for boxing. While it gives less defense, it comes with tasty recharge!

Interesting build! I may just have to copy and paste it.
Other than the LoTG 7.5s it looks like a fairly inexpensive build.

Can't wait to try it out.

The question remains about being able to softcap *and* keep the goodies (stamina, aid-self, hasten).

I must say this was an awkward build that took me a good deal of fiddling to manage. I had to take out Jacob's Ladder to make room for True Grit and then I got stuck at what to remove to make room for Build-Up.

I eventually took out the Fighting Pool. Loss of Tough will be annoying but I don't intend to go back to MA (one entire issue pretty much spent there has burned me out) to farm bosses so I don't think normal PvE, even set for 8, is going to be *that* troublesome.

Thunder Strike is one power I'm 50/50 about. I'll have to play and test it and see how I like the thing, but it's *slow* with a 3.3 animation for a single target attack that does half damage to those around.

In particular if we can do things like get in a spawn, wait for AaO to kick in, BU, use Shield Charge and Fireball, clean the remains, go to the next spawn, wait for AaO to kick in, Lightning Rod, Fireball, Chain Induction, clean the remains. Thunder Strike does do 80% chance of KD and 50% chance of stun, but hoy, I didn't took Total Focus on my EM tank and this was before the nerfs to EM.

The ST chain will be a permutation of Havok Punch, Fire Blast and Chain Induction. I don't know if it's endurance sustainable, the DPS or nuthin' >_>


I used this player made Mids to make the build : http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...highlight=mids


Click this DataLink to open the build!

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1395;678;1356;HEX;|
|78DAA593494F535114C76F270A1D2943CB545A28A3C813760E0B130513139A148B2|
|E14A8F571859734A569BB50577E00578E2B9CE2B856A3C62FA2E8D77056EA39E77F|
|DBC4B8F4A5FDFFFA4ECFFFDC73EF792F7B6921A4D4D5A3CA15395E2AD66A85BC5D2|
|D562ABAEACB16371D5BF99552C966AC90D525ADADC592B6EB55C7C66DAAF5EF82BE|
|A8CB356DE5B71C5DDA68DEC64E96B7745597EB56F34728B7BD5DB24E38F5B2AED50|
|27293AF68BD81F8922E569CF266586EB27AC3B19DB2EE5AAC38B675AC54BCA20BD9|
|62ADAEAB97FBA8B369FAEEA9E6D5F0A9B38449D5760E581544D60413EB404110081|
|35CE2F2A84EFA31AFDC3D40AF209E20245590F25CC873BB90D785BC2EE48528C163|
|123CCB12F29E06F282363A421F1294AF4197D4F39B8EFD3FDD9CD4FE0BF82D08EC0|
|10D41447918615AA8032ED531A338344A558266ED2042A1BF90A184303CEEF0AE54|
|EBFC087C426DFA372AFB6BA8A834E7274BCCB41B93483B45BA11F1755F175BCF0DE|
|0A6207E5B30790BB823E033E9359BECCD114655DFB260E01490170C9D974E871C41|
|9CD64A981D25D0701F1A9E46C33CB37E53B6FF9184861F0B469E08C69E0A669F09E|
|69F0B125476D09CC320CA0EA3EC30CA26FD3C6CEC3A29BBE691A5CC42290C298D21|
|A531A434863482218D6048B130EF09AE51B8327065E0CAC03506D7185C295A7DDCB|
|4378EA76602CFD0E48AE03DA54D99B2539F711E5F80AF827DDF80EFC00FC10772CD|
|18D7CC8E9CEFFEBBC03DE0BE60F601F050B04B2ECBB8AC17123AF0127805BC11CCB|
|F06F0A44569E373E6B199C39B31E46DBD98F4E1335DFA2792F39AB790222E89A4BC|
|AD17F3BFAEB7A1E65A1DC500E90A4B8EE50CCB2ACB1ACB3A8BA45C60B1591AEF5AE|
|EE8416EE810CB6196232CD738C91F2409B28458C22C1196284B274B374B9C658065|
|87A5F1071C631566|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

actually if your looking for AoE dominance in a APP ... Dark appears to be the clear winner with 3 damageing ranged cones (1kb 1immob 1dot)

Another (cheaper) possibility for excessive recharge is to slot some force feedback chance of +rechs. I know in say fault or footstomp, this has a chance to proc off every target hit, does anybody know how it works in thunderstrike (main target only or all targets) ?