Actually in an "ordinary mish" you do not automatically get back on the team if you are DCed for any reason. The AE is not ordinary - it uses a sort-of modified TaskForce code for teaming... (Where you cannot pass leadership voluntarily once the team task has been selected, but you can freely invite others onto the team while the task is in progress. Any cases of spit instances notwithstanding.)
In a TF/trial, if you DC and then log back in, you are still on the team. and the team leader could not have found someone to replace you without having everyone abandon the Task Force, and reform it.
A raid team is much like a regular one... the game will not remember whose team you were on when you log back in. And really the only way to prevent team leaders from filling the spot you previously occupied is by having some way to communicate with that person outside the game (Ventrillo/msn).
Other than out-of game communication, your only option is to broadcast a message like "Got DCed, can I get a re-invite?" And if they filled your spot already, follow that up with your standard looking for group fare, and if need be, form your own.... I'd say most disconnects on an MS raid occur in the bowl phase anyway - just open up the search window and invite everyone in the zone who is not grey'd out, and advertise for everyone to send you a tell for invite. At that point in a MS raid it's just mindless hammering on the rikti anyway.
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I'm not positive, but it might depend. They recently just changed the TF settings so that even if someone calls the final mission in, the TF doesn't disband until everyone quits. I've DC'd in the AE missions with only one other person and I don't recall if I logged back in on the team or not. However, if you're doing a small TF and had to get additional members to start the mission and then leave, you have lots more control over this.|
Originally Posted by jacktar
After the STF DC I was still in and did rejoin my team. However I wondered what would have happened if it had been say a Posi TF, with just two of us doing it. Would my DC have ended the TF under the one player rule?
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When the other people leave, as them to exit the game but not to click the "Quit Task Force" button. As long as they do this, I believe they still register as being on the team. That way if there are only two of you actually doing the TF, as long as one of the other offline "startup" people is still considered "on the team," you shouldn't disband when there's only one person left online.
I think that's right, but you may want to verify before you actually begin the TF and while the startup people are still available.
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If you disconnect on a task force, you're still counted as "on" the TF and therefore count as being on.|
Originally Posted by jacktar
Hello everybody,
After the STF DC I was still in and did rejoin my team. However I wondered what would have happened if it had been say a Posi TF, with just two of us doing it. Would my DC have ended the TF under the one player rule? |
A TF will remain active as long as two people are on the team. Meaning, if you have an 8 man posi TF and 6 of those people hit the "quit task force button" the task force will continue as per usual. But if the 7th person hits the button, the task force disbands.
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When the TF is called in, the task force does END. However, the team is not disbanded/dissolved. Make no mistake, though, the task force is over and your normal contacts are displayed. There is no need to quit the team to exit TF mode.|
Originally Posted by MissInformed
I'm not positive, but it might depend. They recently just changed the TF settings so that even if someone calls the final mission in, the TF doesn't disband until everyone quits.
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I've DC'd in the AE missions with only one other person and I don't recall if I logged back in on the team or not. However, if you're doing a small TF and had to get additional members to start the mission and then leave, you have lots more control over this. When the other people leave, as them to exit the game but not to click the "Quit Task Force" button. As long as they do this, I believe they still register as being on the team. That way if there are only two of you actually doing the TF, as long as one of the other offline "startup" people is still considered "on the team," you shouldn't disband when there's only one person left online. |
In your specific example, where you have other people on the team to start it, you generally do NOT want them to exit. You want them to quit the task force. If you start a Manticore TF (7 to start) and plan to duo it, if the other five simply log out, the missions will still be spawning for a team of 7. If the other five QUIT the TF, the missions will spawn for a team of 2.
As an aside: many people still believe (and publicly state) that a task force will always spawn for the team size needed to start it. This is completely false. If people quit the TF, spawn size is reduced down to a minimum team size of 2.
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You're right! I forgot that as long as one other person stays on the TF and everyone else quits, it works.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
In your specific example, where you have other people on the team to start it, you generally do NOT want them to exit. You want them to quit the task force. If you start a Manticore TF (7 to start) and plan to duo it, if the other five simply log out, the missions will still be spawning for a team of 7. If the other five QUIT the TF, the missions will spawn for a team of 2.
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Originally Posted by Frost
A TF will remain active as long as two people are on the team. Meaning, if you have an 8 man posi TF and 6 of those people hit the "quit task force button" the task force will continue as per usual. But if the 7th person hits the button, the task force disbands.
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Those aren't TFs in the traditional sense of the word though. They use roughly the same code, yes. But task forces/strike forces they are not.
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Originally Posted by Eric_Nelson
With the exception of Ouroboros TFs and AE content, of course.
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Originally Posted by MissInformed
You're right! I forgot that as long as one other person stays on the TF and everyone else quits, it works.
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Task Forces were originally meant to be completed over several days, not all at once- hence you can all log off and come back and still complete them. This has been pretty much abandoned, of course.
Silly question... what does "DC" mean? And is it a transitive or intransitive verb?
My guess is "drop connection".
You are correct. Another one you might see is LCTM. This refers to the message the game displays when a connection is lost: Lost Connection To Mapserver.
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Well, typically it's "disconnected", not "drop connection", but yes, essentially the same thing.
Also called "being disco'd".
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Hello everybody,
can anybody tell me what happens to a player on a TF or Trial if they get Dced, by way of affecting team membership?
I know on a ordinary mish that if you simply relog in, you are still in your team and in the zone, assuming the team is still working in the mish.
But over the past few days I got DCed whilst in a Hami raid and a Rikti mothership raid and a STF. (Reasons for Dcing still under investigation, but probably Graphic Driver stuff)
On both Raid occasions when I immediately logged back in, I was no longer in a team. On the Hami occasion I was also not in Zone but guess that was because Zone One was full?
After the STF DC I was still in and did rejoin my team. However I wondered what would have happened if it had been say a Posi TF, with just two of us doing it. Would my DC have ended the TF under the one player rule?
What I do not know is if I was replaced by Raid team Leaders whilst DCed, or was kicked by the "System"?
Any thoughts or info or experiences would be most welcome.
And yes of course, I am now not getting involved in group activities until my problems are sorted
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