Sleep question
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2009-08-25 15:57 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
The only other ones that don't notify to my knowledge are Sleep Grenade from Blaster Munitions Mastery, and Spore Burst from Plant Control.
Using those two as a template, it would be a reasonable guess that any sleep power that does no damage would not notify, but those are the only ones I am sure of.
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Red Tomax is generally a good place to answer this sort of question:
http://www.redtomax.com
According to that both Salt Crystals and Poison Gas Arrow notify mobs. On the other hand it does say that both Sleep Grenade and Spore Burst notify as well so either it's out of date or ClawsandEffect is mistaken.
I know for a fact that Spore Burst draws aggro.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
The only other ones that don't notify to my knowledge are Sleep Grenade from Blaster Munitions Mastery, and Spore Burst from Plant Control.
Using those two as a template, it would be a reasonable guess that any sleep power that does no damage would not notify, but those are the only ones I am sure of. |
To my knowledge Mass Hypnosis is the only non aggro Sleep power in the game.
Several non-aggro powers, stackable confuses, Psi only tohit checks, these are the benefits that Mind gets to justify the lack of a pet.
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Spore Burst does infact draw aggro. It's part of the reason why Plant doms aren't as popular as Mind doms for RSFs
The lack of aggro by itself is justification enough. I rolled my mind dom because I really liked telekinesis. Also the only two sets that fit my concept were mind and grav and mind just felt like it had more control options in it. I didn't know that it was the only set with non-notifiying control powers. Now I love it more. Though I am sad to hear that I won't be able to play an earth dom in the same way. Then again earth has it's share of alpha protection to make up for the lack of godmode vs AV/Hero/GM's.
GMs don't have that sleep hole
*shrug*
Ok, I stand corrected. Maybe I just got lucky with Sleep Grenade, I used it with my Sonic/Devices/Munitions to stack with Siren's Song on bosses. Maybe I just never missed enough of a spawn for agro to matter.
I've never personally used Spore Burst, I asked my wife about it, she has a Plant troller and was under the impression it didn't agro. Maybe she neve missed enough of a spawn to notice it either.
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Originally Posted by Silverado
GMs don't have that sleep hole
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They can be held or confusted though. Since Mind is the only redside set with a single target confuse it's also the godmode for GM's. I mean anyone can hold them, only Mind or Illusion can make them kill all their friends first.
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Originally Posted by Jorlain
They can be held or confusted though. Since Mind is the only redside set with a single target confuse it's also the godmode for GM's. I mean anyone can hold them, only Mind or Illusion can make them kill all their friends first.
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Less the double mag from Dom, of course...
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Originally Posted by Carnifax
Don't forget Fortunas, they get exactly the same Confuse powers as a Mind.
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Sleep Grenade does damage.
Is mass hypnosis from Mind Control the only aoe sleep that doesn't announce? The main two I'm wondering about are salt crystals and poison gas arrow. I know that the one's in Ice and plant Control announce as, obviously, does the one in sonic blast. I'm just looking for another one that I can use to stack on AV/Hero's that isn't Mass Hypnosis. I like being the godly Control AT who can put down AV's Hero's and GM's, but I don't want to only be able to do that with Mind. I would really like to know that Salt Crystals Will do this. Poison Gas Arrow I have less of an interest in, but it's still a curiosity. Also if anyone knows if the sleeps in ice armor and ice manipulation announce that'd be spiffy too.