I don't know much about soloing AVs on other ATs, but maybe a Radiation Defender or a Bots/Traps Mastermind?
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You think a RAD/RAD defender would drop an AV faster than a Scrapper or Brute? IF yes, what would you choose a Rad/Rad defender or Corr? Also, since traps was nerfed, I don't think it is the fastest any longer. What about a Cold/Sonic Defender or Sonic/Cold Corr?
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Originally Posted by Werner
I don't know much about soloing AVs on other ATs, but maybe a Radiation Defender or a Bots/Traps Mastermind?
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On a purely speed basis across numerous AVs (so you can't claim that the */Fire Scrapper is best because the Fire damage AV can't do anything to him)? That's an easy one. Sonic/Rad Corr. Big -res, big -regen, huge survivability (self heal and huge -tohit), good damage. Plus, Scourge doesn't really do much to softer targets, but it's crazy powerful against harder ones that don't cause crit waste.
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So again, what about a Cold? Is the reason no cold b/c there isn't a self heal? I thought for AV debuffing Cold was the King. Or, to put it another way; for single target Debuffing, Cold, for AOE debuffing RAD? Does benumb stack? If it does that's huge against AV's.
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Originally Posted by Umbral_NA
On a purely speed basis across numerous AVs (so you can't claim that the */Fire Scrapper is best because the Fire damage AV can't do anything to him)? That's an easy one. Sonic/Rad Corr. Big -res, big -regen, huge survivability (self heal and huge -tohit), good damage. Plus, Scourge doesn't really do much to softer targets, but it's crazy powerful against harder ones that don't cause crit waste.
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Illusion/Radiation Controller and Sonic/Radiation Corruptor are both able to solo Giant Monsters. It's a safe bet that they're both the fastest at soloing AVs.
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Also depends on the conditions... if you're allowed to surround yourself with minions/lts then something like a /kin corruptor (IOd for softcap) or dm/shield scrapper becomes possibly the best.
Scrappers aren't even in the same league as some of these other combinations. Giant monsters essentially regenerate 360 DPS. We can't touch that without serious buffs. Some characters make mincemeat of that. Just because AV soloing is popular on the scrapper boards doesn't mean we're the best archetype for the job.
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Actually, no. Illusion/Radiation Trollers are the safest at soloing GM's and AV's because Phantom Army takes agro and can't be damaged. But there are others that can do it faster (Fire/Rad Troller, for instance).
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Illusion/Radiation Controller and Sonic/Radiation Corruptor are both able to solo Giant Monsters. It's a safe bet that they're both the fastest at soloing AVs.
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Right. Ill/Rad controllers (I have one) are extremely safe, but not especially fast. They have a big advantage against AV and GMs like Ghost Widow and Malaise, as well as those which use a lot of AoE. But as far as speed goes, Corruptors are really, really fast. Especially Sonic/Rad, Fire/Rad, Sonic/Traps and Fire/Traps.
With the right build, i'd put my money on a fire/psi perma-dom. They'd only have to worry about surviving the first 20 seconds or so before they had the AV held, even through the purple triangles. Imps+dom damage+the negative regen from drain psyche. The build would have to be absolutely monstrous to do the same to a GM but I'd like to believe its possible 
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I don't believe Benumb self-stacks, like most other debuffs. And the reason Rad is better for soloing is it also has AM (which can be permaed in a high-recharge build), and there's less "upkeep" for your debuffs.|
Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper
So again, what about a Cold? Is the reason no cold b/c there isn't a self heal? I thought for AV debuffing Cold was the King. Or, to put it another way; for single target Debuffing, Cold, for AOE debuffing RAD? Does benumb stack? If it does that's huge against AV's.
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Also, I don't think Sonic can keep up as well as people say, as its -res debuffs do not entirely make up for its massively lower damage. I would think, actually, that Energy/Rad or Arch/Rad corrs might do better for that reason, with a higher base damage to start from. Maybe Ice or Fire to leverage the blaster-level damage rains.
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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Ill/Rad trollers
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Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper
What AT and Powers, would you in the Scrappers forums say is the Fastest at Soloing an AV? Brutes, Scrappers, Corrs, Trollers? Powers? What say you?
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How do Ill/Kin 'trollers fare nowadays? I haven't played mine since I4 and they were uber back then.
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Likely can still pull it off, but again, Fire does the most damage so anything an Ill controller can do, a Fire one will do it faster. IOs can make the Fire controller safe enough that Ill's advantage is not that big of a difference.
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Originally Posted by Gaidin
How do Ill/Kin 'trollers fare nowadays? I haven't played mine since I4 and they were uber back then.
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Same have said Ill/Rad, but I don't think that it is FASTER than others metnioned. That is what I was after, the FASTEST Soloer, no outside buffs, no inspirations, no temp powers. Just the powers the AT comes with and that is it + IO's of course. So, the FASTEST not Safest.
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No, Ill/Rad isn't the fastest; it's not even the fastest that *I've* got. But mine does have a freakishly high win-to-faceplant ratio, having died 3 or 4 times in his entire AV/GM soloing career, and he's done everything at this point--literally everything--except Lusca, The Honoree, Reichsman, and of course the Hamidon.|
Originally Posted by Ghost_Ripper
Same have said Ill/Rad, but I don't think that it is FASTER than others metnioned. That is what I was after, the FASTEST Soloer, no outside buffs, no inspirations, no temp powers. Just the powers the AT comes with and that is it + IO's of course. So, the FASTEST not Safest.
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Most AV soloists who depend on IO set bonuses for defense would have a hard time soloing Ghost Widow and Silver Mantis together, I suspect. But it was just plain easy on my Ill/Rad.
My fire/rad corruptor is faster, though, and a sonic/rad would likely be faster still.
(Assuming no trip back from the hospital.)
Fastest ATs at soloing AVs are Corruptors and Controllers (Fire/Rad for both)
/Traps is killer against AVs, but since re-applying the debuffs takes a sweet bit of time and interrupts your DPS then /Rad is probably better, probably.
I have an Ill/Rad that has soloed GMs, which currently has a 100% survival rate due to the joy of perma hasten and perma PA.
Outside of an Ill/Rad though my moneys going to be on the AV most of the time, I'm just not sure the survivability can be buffed high enough for long enough (without external help) to take down the average AV, and you can forget a fire/rad, have you seen how quick an AV can eat an imp? and then it's going for you
mmm, imp sandwich.
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Fastest ATs at soloing AVs are Corruptors and Controllers (Fire/Rad for both)
/Traps is killer against AVs, but since re-applying the debuffs takes a sweet bit of time and interrupts your DPS then /Rad is probably better, probably. |
For scrappers it's a dm/shield.
If insperations are allowed, I'd be curious what a fire/electric blapper with high recharge popping insperations for defense and endurance can do. (I think this will be my next project when I'm done with my brute).
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What AT and Powers, would you in the Scrappers forums say is the Fastest at Soloing an AV? Brutes, Scrappers, Corrs, Trollers? Powers? What say you?