Gender Ratios in City of Heroes


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I'm afraid there are a couple of things here that I just can't agree with.

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There's also the consideration that women are a lot more complicated. Most of us guys are straightforward to the point of being dull. Women operate with extra motivations and perspectives that can give them an entirely different approach to everything in life. That presents plenty of novel material when creating and playing a female character.
No they're not. It's true that there are plenty of dump, simple guys, but it's not like there aren't plenty of shallow, stupid women out there, and not a whole lot less, either. There is a little pitfall when reviewing this perception, in that men remember interesting women more easily than we remember interesting men, and that women in fiction have generally been regarded differently from men, both positively and negatively. Even credible authors who try to get away from the notion that women are simple housewives whose only purpose in an action fiction is to be kidnapped and rescued, still end up treating them differently in the opposite direction.

There is this phenomenon that a woman in an otherwise all-man team will be generally smarter, cooler, more complicated and sometimes even stronger than her male counterparts, as an overcompensation used to avoid treading close to representing her in a sexist light. Which, admirable as that may be as a practice, creates the feeling that women are always smarter and more complicated than the male characters, who in turn are usually either too macho or too stupid. Because making a female character is, for many authors, a little bit more of an "important" event than creating a male one, these females tend to get SOMETHING remarkable and memorable about them, whereas men can easily be painted in as the jackass of the group with no redeeming qualities whatsoever and no-one bats an eye.

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Another consideration is that eccentric behavior coming from a guy is frequently considered creepy or obnoxious. The same behavior coming from a female will often be seen as endearingly quirky or exotic. Individuals with two X chromosomes can get away with a lot more crazy before it makes people uncomfortable. When you're trying to make characters that are interestingly odd, this can be very helpful.
A well-written eccentric woman can indeed be endearing. But then, so can a well-written eccentric man, only those tend to receive less care in their eccentricity, making them just plain weird a lot of the time. But it's not at all difficult to make female characters at all weird and creepy, and all one has to do is have even just a cursory look through a few anime and manga works. Granted, the genre has a few weird guys, but when it comes to weird girls, they threw out the rule book, and the weirdness is just off the wall in places. Sometimes it's endearing, and at other times it's just plain wacked out.

And again, this comes down to how women are viewed differently from men by the actual audience, at least the male section of that audience. A woman, especially if she is pretty, can be endearing in the absence of just about anything else, whereas a man can pretty much almost never be endearing at all. So a man has to be made an interesting character on his own merits, or he falls short. A woman can often be made an interesting character solely based on her being a woman, but with a quirk. This isn't necessarily a difference between men and women, but rather a difference between how easy it is to write for men and women.

Now, I want to end on a small note. All of the above isn't to say men are better than women or women aren't good enough or anything else of this sort. What I want to say is that this notion that women are always better, smarter, cooler and more interesting is just as manufactured as the notion that they're weaker than men and always need to be rescued. It's a prejudice in either instance, and while it CAN produce interesting stories as a once-off, as a general principle it just limits characters down from what they could be. They are all people, and they can all be interesting as people, before we evaluate how interesting they are as men and women. It's down to how they are written, not what they are written as.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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I've known many female players. 25-30, at a guess.

Several of them--perhaps most--have had male characters.

A couple who didn't have guys in their roster cite the previously mentioned "clunkiness" of male figures as the reason why. Otherwise, they would've had them as well.

Two others have demonstrated a strong preference for male characters.

Most of the people I interact with are older players... typically 30 and up. And I interact almost exclusively with roleplayers.

I currently have in my own roster: 9 guys and 11 gals (one of which being more of a feminine entity than a female). I generally just create characters and go with whatever works best for the concept.

On a couple of occasions, I have changed the gender of a character for aesthetic reasons. One female to male, one male to female.


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I am male, playing 60% female and 40% male toons. However, as someone noted above, my main is male so my play time is probably split 50/50 among the genders. Often, that is a real 50/50 split when I am dualboxing



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