If I had the money...
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Bill Z Bubba,
Posted on: 2009-08-19 10:18 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Wait a month. Core i5 will be out. That's an i7, but cheaper.
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
...I REALLY want to get an i7 920 and a mobo. =(
I've been out of the loop for a while now...but geez, my sig has gotten stagnant (sp?) and I wat something NEW!!! SO bored!!! Need to OC something!!!  (Sorry, goof off thread...will probably annoy some people  ) |
Can I have your old stuffs???
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I pre-ordered my copy of Windows 7 Pro, so I'll be building a new system once that's out and patched at least a little. It will definitely have an i7 CPU. I suppose I'll have to look at RAM prices at that time to decide whether to go with 6 or 12GB of DDR3 . . . .
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
...I REALLY want to get an i7 920 and a mobo. =(
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Either way though, DDR3 has dropped in price considerably, so whatever you want really. However, the more the merrier (sp?), is what I always sa. |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
I pre-ordered my copy of Windows 7 Pro, so I'll be building a new system once that's out and patched at least a little. It will definitely have an i7 CPU. I suppose I'll have to look at RAM prices at that time to decide whether to go with 6 or 12GB of DDR3 . . . .
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Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186161 Ohh, Pretty Orange!!! Have no idea about the board, and don't care for the company (though, I've had no *bad* experiences with them)...but it's got ORANGE!!!
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Depending on what you're doing, I can't imagine 'needing' more than 6 gigs. I debated 6 or twelve but settled for 3 2 Gig sticks. Upgrading to twelve will be easy as the three other channels are still open. Truth is, I have yet to see the system spike over 3 Gigs of RAM.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
I pre-ordered my copy of Windows 7 Pro, so I'll be building a new system once that's out and patched at least a little. It will definitely have an i7 CPU. I suppose I'll have to look at RAM prices at that time to decide whether to go with 6 or 12GB of DDR3 . . . .
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Rumor has it the Core I7 920 will be phased out in 2-3 months, so there will likely be a price drop on them shortly after.
On a side note: Will Core I5's drop into LGA 1366 sockets?
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i5 is 1156 socket, along with the i3, (IIRC).
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I REALLY want to drop 16GB of DDR2 RAM into my server, but dagnabbit! $700+ is just too much! Whatever happened to cheap DDR2 memory???|
Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
...I REALLY want to get an i7 920 and a mobo. =(
I've been out of the loop for a while now...but geez, my sig has gotten stagnant (sp?) and I wat something NEW!!! SO bored!!! Need to OC something!!! (Sorry, goof off thread...will probably annoy some people ) |
-Wolf sends
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No, i5 will use a completely different socket.|
Originally Posted by Desmodos
Depending on what you're doing, I can't imagine 'needing' more than 6 gigs. I debated 6 or twelve but settled for 3 2 Gig sticks. Upgrading to twelve will be easy as the three other channels are still open. Truth is, I have yet to see the system spike over 3 Gigs of RAM.
Rumor has it the Core I7 920 will be phased out in 2-3 months, so there will likely be a price drop on them shortly after. On a side note: Will Core I5's drop into LGA 1366 sockets? |
Well...
That's a bit of a loaded question, really. Intel, in their infinite wisdom, are releasing a LGA 1156 processor called the Core i7 870. Yes, i7. Apparently, having Hyperthreading enabled is what makes the i7 an i7, with i5 chips having it disabled.
Also, the 920 would only be phased out if a newer version at the same price point were to be released. Given that AMD can barely get within firing range of the thing with their monster 3.4GHz quad, I can't see Intel needing to mess with i7 at all.
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And, thusly, there is no reason to wait for i5 as opposed to an i7...unless one has budget concerns and is looking a plain vanilla workhorse.|
Originally Posted by Necrotron
Apparently, having Hyperthreading enabled is what makes the i7 an i7, with i5 chips having it disabled.
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Originally Posted by Wolf_Shadow
I REALLY want to drop 16GB of DDR2 RAM into my server, but dagnabbit! $700+ is just too much! Whatever happened to cheap DDR2 memory???
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Not sure where you're looking, but I've only got four DIMM slots. Best I can find is 4x1x4GB at $133 per. Even $532 is a bit steep for memory.
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The I7's are too much if you ask me. I always build a top of the line setup when I build a new computer and it would cost me an extra 1000$ to that now. 1500$ total for the mobo, vidcard, processor alone.
I'll probably wait atleast a year to build another computer.
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Intel marketing crashes into physical socket. The Core i7, Core i5 and Core i3 designations are meant to convey high performance, mainstream and value respectively. However what they don't convey is the type of socket it needs.
As of right now the Socket 1156 chips have either the Core i7 or Core i5 designation. Current Core i7 and i5 CPUs all have 8MB of L3 cache and 4 cores.
The Socket 1156 CPUs only have a dual channel DDR3 memory controller internally instead of the triple channel found in the Socket 1366 Core i7s. The third channel really didn't buy a whole lot in performance but added to the complexity of the motherboard.
The Socket 1156 CPUs also have it's own integrated 16 channel PCIe controller to talk directly to the video card(s). This should speed up video performance. Now that both memory and GPU communication have dedicated interfaces on the CPU, communications to the rest of the hardware can be handled by a simple old fashion DMI interface, similar to what's found between current North and Southbridge chipsets. Currently the P55 chipset from Intel is the only one available for use with Socket 1156.
Lastly the Turbo Boost mode, which automatically overclocks one core if the others aren't busy is increased. Currently the Socket 1366 i7-9xx will kick the clock multiplier up by +2 or an extra 266MHz. The new i7-8xx series will kick the clock speed up by an additional 667MHz (+5 on the multiplier) while the new i5-7xx series will kick the clock speed up by an additional 533MHz (+4 on the multipler).
The other difference between the i7-9xx/i7-8xx series and the i5-7xx series is support of hyperthreading, the i5-7xx doesn't have it, it is just 4 cores and 4 threads.
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Originally Posted by FatherXmas
Intel marketing crashes into physical socket. The Core i7, Core i5 and Core i3 designations are meant to convey high performance, mainstream and value respectively. However what they don't convey is the type of socket it needs.
As of right now the Socket 1156 chips have either the Core i7 or Core i5 designation. Current Core i7 and i5 CPUs all have 8MB of L3 cache and 4 cores. The Socket 1156 CPUs only have a dual channel DDR3 memory controller internally instead of the triple channel found in the Socket 1366 Core i7s. The third channel really didn't buy a whole lot in performance but added to the complexity of the motherboard. The Socket 1156 CPUs also have it's own integrated 16 channel PCIe controller to talk directly to the video card(s). This should speed up video performance. Now that both memory and GPU communication have dedicated interfaces on the CPU, communications to the rest of the hardware can be handled by a simple old fashion DMI interface, similar to what's found between current North and Southbridge chipsets. Currently the P55 chipset from Intel is the only one available for use with Socket 1156. Lastly the Turbo Boost mode, which automatically overclocks one core if the others aren't busy is increased. Currently the Socket 1366 i7-9xx will kick the clock multiplier up by +2 or an extra 266MHz. The new i7-8xx series will kick the clock speed up by an additional 667MHz (+5 on the multiplier) while the new i5-7xx series will kick the clock speed up by an additional 533MHz (+4 on the multipler). The other difference between the i7-9xx/i7-8xx series and the i5-7xx series is support of hyperthreading, the i5-7xx doesn't have it, it is just 4 cores and 4 threads. |
The sum of it all is, you should wait for LGA1156, then get a Core i7 8xx for it. This will be just as overclockable as the 1366 i7s, but the motherboard will be much, much cheaper.
If I had the money, that's what I'd do; get a 1156 i7, slap my watercooler on it, put unsafe voltages through it, then crank the sucker to 4GHz.
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fatherx is so full of win. =)
Wow, I really am out of the loop.
Looks like an i7-860 might be the sweetspot. If it's sub $300, at least.
4G?! Pfft!!! If I go for it, I'll be heading for 4.2-4.4 verified...anything less will just be a dissapointment.
Might even have to spring for a new TEC setup, just for the occasion.
THe boost thingie, sounds like a cheap way...will bring all the novices outta the woodwork...again...just like the 1st i7's and the C2D's...but I'm speaking outta my ear on that...need more research...been to long since I've paid real attention to my one true love.
Yes, Noogies, FX has a win outer coating, and a awesomsauce inner filling.
Interested in how much perf gain can will be attributed to the on dye vid troller...
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Actually the Boost jobby doesn't even need effort. The i7 has a supra-advanced power control chip on it, which looks at how much power each core is putting out, and how hot it is. If there's headroom, it will clock the cores up by one bin (200MHz ish); if you are only running one or two cores at max, it will boost it up by two or even three bins. At the end of the day, if the heatsink can handle 130W of power and you're only using half of the processor, clocking it up is only logical. This is enabled by default. Heck, 'boost' speeds are technically stock speeds!
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
Wow, I really am out of the loop.
Looks like an i7-860 might be the sweetspot. If it's sub $300, at least. 4G?! Pfft!!! If I go for it, I'll be heading for 4.2-4.4 verified...anything less will just be a dissapointment. Might even have to spring for a new TEC setup, just for the occasion.THe boost thingie, sounds like a cheap way...will bring all the novices outta the woodwork...again...just like the 1st i7's and the C2D's...but I'm speaking outta my ear on that...need more research...been to long since I've paid real attention to my one true love. Yes, Noogies, FX has a win outer coating, and a awesomsauce inner filling. Interested in how much perf gain can will be attributed to the on dye vid troller... |
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I'm glad I noticed this thread. While I see no reason to upgrade my XP/2.7GHz/2GB current rig for CHV, if Mechwarrior turns out to be as freaktacular as the trailer made it out to be, I'll be going for broke on a new rig.
Thanks for the info, people!
Be well, people of CoH.
Yes, Turbo-Boost is a cheap way...but as long as verifies verify correctly, and there in no way to cheat a verify with it, I'll be happy.
ANyways, disabling Turbo-Boost for higher OC's seems to be the concensus...but there are caveats. It *can* be helpful in some situations (trick it into a higher multi)...but the higher up, the more likely that it will kick in at the wrong time and push our well fought for stability see-saw back over to the chubby kids side.
I REALLY want Happy_Killmore to come in here...he had a i7 920...and I think had it up to 3.8 stable.
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Originally Posted by BillZBubba
I'm glad I noticed this thread. While I see no reason to upgrade my XP/2.7GHz/2GB current rig for CHV, if Mechwarrior turns out to be as freaktacular as the trailer made it out to be, I'll be going for broke on a new rig.
Thanks for the info, people! |
You gunna try overclocking again?
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
You gunna try overclocking again? |
Course. What are the odds that I'd get two dud procs in a row?
Be well, people of CoH.
Thanks alot, guys
I had absolutely no reason to build a new rig. None, whatsoever!
No New Game Awesomeness (scratch that. Thanks Billz)
No knowledge of newer processors (scratch that. Thanks FatherX)
Going to cost too much for new components (scratch that. Thanks Mid)
Geez! With friends like this...
-Wolf keeeds
...why has this thread gotten 308 looks?
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I'm slightly, and unfoundedly (real word?), proud of that.
...I REALLY want to get an i7 920 and a mobo. =(
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I've been out of the loop for a while now...but geez, my sig has gotten stagnant (sp?) and I wat something NEW!!!
SO bored!!! Need to OC something!!!
(Sorry, goof off thread...will probably annoy some people