Grammatical error for Plant Control skill: Strangler


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Second sentence of the skill description: "The target is held helpless, while they is slowly crushed by the vines."

Should be: "The target is held helpless, while they are slowly crushed by the vines."

I'm not sure about the comma. It looks odd to me since it doesn't seem like there should be a pause in the statement.


 

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Second sentence of the skill description: "The target is held helpless, while they is slowly crushed by the vines."

Should be: "The target is held helpless, while they are slowly crushed by the vines."

I'm not sure about the comma. It looks odd to me since it doesn't seem like there should be a pause in the statement.
Even that replacement isn't right, since "target" is singular, while "they" is plural.

I believe the correct rendering is "The target is held helpless while being slowly crushed by the vines."


 

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Since 'helpless' is a description of how they are being held (therefore an adverb), shouldn't it say
"The target is held (verb) helplessly while being slowly crushed by the vines."


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Even that replacement isn't right, since "target" is singular, while "they" is plural.

I believe the correct rendering is "The target is held helpless while being slowly crushed by the vines."
They are using "they" as a gender neutral personal pronoun. While not strictly proper grammar this is very much found in common usage. I prefer to use "they" or "one" over "he/she" or "he or she." I would lose the comma too, but the comma isn't doing anything wrong so you could just leave it.


 

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Originally Posted by Mallard View Post
Even that replacement isn't right, since "target" is singular, while "they" is plural.

I believe the correct rendering is "The target is held helpless while being slowly crushed by the vines."
I thought I might point out Singular they, to muddy the waters a little. =)

We could go with "The target is held helpless while it is slowly crushed by the vines."... I mean, you wouldn't want to discriminate against holding robots? =)


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Originally Posted by Mallard View Post
I believe the correct rendering is "The target is held helpless while being slowly crushed by the vines."
That's the most elegant way to put it...also the least typing.

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Since 'helpless' is a description of how they are being held (therefore an adverb), shouldn't it say
"The target is held (verb) helplessly while being slowly crushed by the vines."
I think helpless is an adjective describing "target." It's just in an unusual place -- although that's a traditional placement. One could offset helpless with two commas if one wanted to clarify:

"The target is held, helpless, while being slowly crushed by the vines."

(Similar to standard constructions like "the mother watched, distraught, while her child was wheeled into surgery." Not "distraughtly.")


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In a sentence similar to the one Sailboat proposes above: "The mother watched helplessly while her child was wheeled into surgery." The mother is watching and she is doing so in a helpless manner or with a helpless feeling. The word distraught describes the mother (so it is an adjective), not the action, so adding "ly" would definitely not be appropriate in that case.

In the sentence proposed by Healix, the word held is actually not the verb - in that case "is" is the verb, whch is why "helplessly" is incorrect. Ideally, to be very clear as to what is happening and to whom in the simplest manner, a better sentence would probably be something like: "The vines hold and slowly crush the helpless target."

Who is acting? The vines.
What are the vines doing? holding and crushing.
To whom are the vines doing the holding and crushing? the target.
Is there any way we want to describe the target? helpless.

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