Hey, that leads me to another one...
...if you have no idea why anyone would stop earning xp at level 46... you might be an AE baby.
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Sorry, quick complaint, but not all farmers are RMT spammers. I farm to get money to do what I want to do with my toons. I certainly don't sell it.
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You know that this is already common knowledge (at least to us non-AE babies). Most farming is done for personal gain (levels, Inf, Prestige) rather than in the employ of RMT groups.
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Originally Posted by CharybdisClan
Sorry, quick complaint, but not all farmers are RMT spammers. I farm to get money to do what I want to do with my toons. I certainly don't sell it.
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How many AE babies does it take to change a light-bulb?
7 ... so long as there is one lvl 50 there to help them.
"You can sit there telling me what's right and wrong by your standards but who tells you what's right and wrong?" - No-one
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At the time, there was a big complaint about RMT farmers using the AE system, and the huge amounts of influence they were making were being dumped back into the game economy, causing inflation at Wentworths.|
Originally Posted by CharybdisClan
Sorry, quick complaint, but not all farmers are RMT spammers. I farm to get money to do what I want to do with my toons. I certainly don't sell it.
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I was not referring to individuals who repeatedly run missions in the hopes of drops, but rather only those who re-sell. Sorry that was not more clear.
-- Vivian
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I suspect they wanted to have as many people as possible use the AE system, since they'd put so much work into it, and felt that only the Roleplayers or the types of folk who read the Clues, Enemy Descriptions and Mission Details would be interested in it otherwise.|
Originally Posted by LiWenLong
I think that is an excellent suggestion, Dr. Vivian. Makes me wonder why the Devs hadn't thought of it first.
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And they're probably right. Had they done that from the beginning, I think the AE system would have seen very little use.
However, now that it has achieved what it was supposed to, and moreover, it's starting to cause problems, I really think it's time to turn all of that off.
-- Vivian
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Originally Posted by Tiger_Brute
How many AE babies does it take to change a light-bulb?
7 ... so long as there is one lvl 50 there to help them. |
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Gosh Darn People, the SG if ya goofie 8D
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If you're suggesting that I'm an AE baby, sorry, but I steer clear of AE because I'd rather TF all night. Been here for a year, and out of that, probably about 3 nights have been in AE farms. I know how to play my toons.|
Originally Posted by Pyber
You know that this is already common knowledge (at least to us non-AE babies). Most farming is done for personal gain (levels, Inf, Prestige) rather than in the employ of RMT groups.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Vivian
At the time, there was a big complaint about RMT farmers using the AE system, and the huge amounts of influence they were making were being dumped back into the game economy, causing inflation at Wentworths.
I was not referring to individuals who repeatedly run missions in the hopes of drops, but rather only those who re-sell. Sorry that was not more clear. -- Vivian |
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A quick suggestion. This was really a fun thread, I don't think the intention was to have a serious debate over the AE and who is an actual AE baby or not. Maybe take those types of discussions to the various threads spread out over the forums and just let people have some fun here.
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So... if you take this thread seriously, you might be an AE baby?
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
A quick suggestion. This was really a fun thread, I don't think the intention was to have a serious debate over the AE and who is an actual AE baby or not. Maybe take those types of discussions to the various threads spread out over the forums and just let people have some fun here.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.
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Apparently you misunderstood me. I didn't say you were an AE baby, and assumption by you in that regard is a mistake. By me saying "us non-AE babies" I meant anyone that is not an AE baby.| If you're suggesting that I'm an AE baby, sorry, but I steer clear of AE because I'd rather TF all night. Been here for a year, and out of that, probably about 3 nights have been in AE farms. I know how to play my toons. |
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My profoundest apologies then.
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Originally Posted by Pyber
Apparently you misunderstood me. I didn't say you were an AE baby, and assumption by you in that regard is a mistake. By me saying "us non-AE babies" I meant anyone that is not an AE baby.
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i want my AE baby back ribs
Oh dear...I don't play on Guardian but wanted to pop in say that I love this thread.
That is all.
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Come join the craziness.
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Craziness? I thougt this was a serious discussion? At least as serious as it gets on Guardian. 
//Jack
The Kickers base.
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What's serious? Is that like a troller that DOESN'T use kin?
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*gnaw visitors*
*nom nom*
o_o
*nom*
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Sorry, Pepsi is like that. Wipe the spit off ya real quick, it gets sticky with all the... well, Pepsi in it.
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Oh dear...I don't play on Guardian but wanted to pop in say that I love this thread.
That is all. ♥Gabz |
are you wearing prada??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3a5BsmxNJ0&NR=1
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
So... if you take this thread seriously, you might be an AE baby?
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And *clap clap clap clap* to all the other loonies in the bin
....if you don't know how many debt badges there are... you might be an AE baby.
Guardian is my home world.
Gosh Darn People, the SG if ya goofie 8D
Silence is golden but duct tape is silver.
MA 195771 Debt to Casa
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Consider. No debt in AE.| ....if you don't know how many debt badges there are... you might be an AE baby. |
If you don't know what debt is....you might be an AE baby.
:P
*Laughing so hard I can't breathe* OMG...this is tooo funy...
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Untrue - you don't work off patrol xp except for counteracting debt and so it's seen less often, but you can get debt in AE. Working it off in there doesn't count towards any badges, though.|
Originally Posted by Pyber
Consider. No debt in AE.
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I rather deliberately tried to get some with my fire/fire blaster when I was still doing the FFF nights.
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it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.
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This all brings me back to an earlier thought I had posted in the Suggestions area, when AE had just come out and AE Babies had not yet made an appearance on the scene, that I thought to share with everyone here, with the intent of hopefully spurring constructive debate.
Basically, at the time I was thinking of ways to stop the immensely heightened level of farming that was taking place, as well as pointing out some things about the AE system that just didn't make any sense. Correcting the latter would also fix the former -- killing two birds with one stone. Little did I know that it would have killed three birds -- had it been implemented, AE Babies would never have come into existence.
In-game, and in-character, the AE Complex is offering its customers a virtual experience. In other words, players are being virtualized (a la TRON) and are experiencing adventures within the AE computer system. Since this is the case, why would their actions in the virtual game world of the AE computer earn them Influence in the "real" world of Paragon City? Why would it earn their Super Group Prestige? And why on earth would they get Recipes and Salvage? (from Dev Choice missions)
Any XP users of AE get should be a fraction of normal XP, since it's a virtual world -- basically, a training experience, a la the "Danger Room". There is something indefinable that is lost... perhaps the element of actual danger? And certainly -- since heroes who are defeated in combat are not using the Medical Transporter System, but rather are just being dumped out of the AE System and re-materialized as hale as they were when they went in, why would they suffer "debt"?
I proposed that users should only receive 1/4 the normal amount of Experience one would gain in an actual (i.e., non-MA) mission, and no debt for being defeated. It made no sense that playing MA missions awards Prestige or Influence, and certainly not drops, either from an in-game or an out-of-game perspective. I felt, and proposed, that these rewards be removed entirely from AE.
Out-of-Game, by removing Influence and Prestige and Drops ENTIRELY from the AE System, the Devs would also completely remove the Farmers and Grinders from the system. Farmers will go only to the places where they can farm for the influence that they sell through their pay sites. If AE didn't offer it, then they'd go back to RV, or somewhere else. Similarly, if the amount of experience earned through AE missions was significantly less than that of normal game content, the Grinders and Power-Levellers would go back to using their demon farms and XP-turned-off Level 46 bridges or what-have-you -- but at least they would not be clogging up the AE building trying to power-level one another.
My thought was that if these changes were implemented, it would leave the AE System exactly what it was meant to be -- a venue where players can create, share and experience user-generated content in a safe, "virtual" venue that does not at all impact the "outer" world of CoX. Where there is no grinding, no griefing, and no farming. Just pure storytelling, and the enjoyment that comes from experiencing it.
What think you all?
-- Vivian