New Playing Style of Troller Kins?


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Originally Posted by sydney View Post
After reading through this thread, I kinda feel like the odd man out. I love playing my troler and protecting my teammates. I found it to be an easy decision after looking through all the ATs and their abilities. I knew instantly that I wanted to create a controler for my first hero. I get a high off of saving that teammate from the brink of death - bringing back to life the vital tanker who is laying dead at the feet of a dozen enemy goons. I know that im not scoring all the XP that I could, but I know that I am doing my team a great service and that is all the satisfaction I need. I felt the same way playing Diablo on the playstation 10 years ago. After my first week of playing this game, I'm already seeing alot of people who have lost sight of why they play RP games like this.
No way Sydney - you're not alone there.

I'd say that 80% of the time I'm feeling the desire to aid my team in a Heroic way - it just fits with why I play this game in the first place, and simply CAN'T play CoV (have tried many times, never made it past mid-20s on any Vill).

I have buff-heavy Defenders and Controllers - no Scraps or Tanks - and for that other 20% of the time?

I feel like blowin' **** up - bad day at work, bad commute, fight with the gf, whatever - and then it's one of my Blasters!


 

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Originally Posted by AnotherDeadHero View Post
I use a set of bind from the numpad:

ctrl+numpad1 team_select 1
ctrl+numpad2 team_select 2
ctrl+numpad3 team_select 3
ctrl+numpad4 team_select 4
ctrl+numpad5 team_select 5
ctrl+numpad6 team_select 6
ctrl+numpad7 team_select 7
ctrl+numpad8 team_select 8
ctrl+numpadenter powexec_name Speed Boost
ctrl+add powexec_name Increase Density

I use /bind numpad1 teamselect 1$$"powexecname speed boost" etc so I can double tap the numpad key and speed boost that team member.
And use /bind shift+numpad1 teamselect 1$$"powexecname increase density"

Sometimes I double SB someone, but I can live with that


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I must really be the odd man out here. I don't even have Speed Boost on my lone /Kin controller. I'm not here to pamper my team mates. I'm here to defeat the bad guys. SB, although very nice, can be done without. Just like Stamina.

See? I'm very ood.


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Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
I use /bind numpad1 teamselect 1$$"powexecname speed boost" etc so I can double tap the numpad key and speed boost that team member.
And use /bind shift+numpad1 teamselect 1$$"powexecname increase density"

Sometimes I double SB someone, but I can live with that
I do much of the same thing, but have 1-8 on the numpad be team select, then use 0 and Enter for SB and ID. Then I have + on the numpad for target nearest friend, and 9 on the numpad for target next friend. The last two help when on ship raids or otherwise surrounded by people not on my team.


 

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Originally Posted by Teehka View Post
More than just the end recovery, SB is incredibly useful for its +Recharge so Transfusion isn't really a replacement for it.
Yeah you're definitely right!

I think my head was just in the place that with the toon I mentioned I had been playing in a themed 'Knights' team and part of the make up of having a kin was to help with the End problems that some scrappers/tanks have pre-stamina if they are toggle heavy.

I think I will have to figure out a way to optimise the way I SB. I would try the numpad method but I'm left handed so its easier for me to have the numpad set up in a different way.


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As long as the kin/ or /kin uses Fulcrum Shift, I'm happy. Everything else is just gravy. Also, if you need speed boost, you're a crappy player.


 

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My understanding of transference and transfusion is that it withdraws end and health from the target and redistributes it to your teammates. In addition, those two powers also slows the target's regeneration. SB always, although I find many people don't like it. Not using FS with tanks and scrappers in melee range, in an AV fight on a STF. I don't get it Why choose kin as a secondary?


 

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Originally Posted by AnotherDeadHero View Post
No, its just bad playing.
This. Period.


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Originally Posted by IcyIsha View Post
My understanding of transference and transfusion is that it withdraws end and health from the target and redistributes it to your teammates. In addition, those two powers also slows the target's regeneration.
Yes and no. Transference works to boost your teammates' END (only), and Transfusion works to boost your teammates' HP (only) -- but ONLY to teammates nearby the target enemy.

And the only one of the two that has a regen debuff is Transfusion (the "heal" power), not Transference. I find that many Kins don't realize this valuable debuff, which IMHO should always be spammed on tougher AVs/Heroes (especially if there isn't a dedicated debuffer on the team, such as a Rad).

When in doubt, the wiki is your friend: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Transference#Transference.


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Originally Posted by sydney View Post
After reading through this thread, I kinda feel like the odd man out. I love playing my troler and protecting my teammates. I found it to be an easy decision after looking through all the ATs and their abilities. I knew instantly that I wanted to create a controler for my first hero. I get a high off of saving that teammate from the brink of death - bringing back to life the vital tanker who is laying dead at the feet of a dozen enemy goons. I know that im not scoring all the XP that I could, but I know that I am doing my team a great service and that is all the satisfaction I need. I felt the same way playing Diablo on the playstation 10 years ago. After my first week of playing this game, I'm already seeing alot of people who have lost sight of why they play RP games like this.
I think a lot of the replies here are ignoring the OPs comment mostly. Most of us don't object to using the AoE buffs we have at our disposal, I certainly use FS, Transference and Transfusion virtually every mob (or more). I use Transfusion every time its up on AVs and GMs as it has a -regen effect.

I have a kin defender that I play sometimes and on that I am a buffer/debuffer, I think I have three secondary attacks one of which is a stun, my epic attack is a sleep. It is a purely team orientated character and works well in teams. But when playing a controller I play a controller not a defender my buffs are secondary to my purpose.

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The benefits of a kin on the team... (Admittedly this one is a team of three fire/kins and I think at this point I have 6 speed boosts stacked on each character).


Working on a Emp/Sonic Defender trio now... think they'll be like above from about level 33 onwards.


 

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I'm too uncoordinated to take my right hand off my mouse and hit numpad keys, so I use the following bind:

/bind lshift+lbutton powexec_name Speed Boost

then I can click on a teammate in the team window, hold shift and click again to SB them. Just march right down the team list (skipping myself of course).

Whatever works for you!


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