Bronze Class Recipe Roll


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In general, when using my architect tickets, are bronze class rolls deemed the best average value overall? Also are the drops for these just a "Pool C" drop? I'm not very clear on these categories, so for example would there be a chance that I would get a Miracle:+Recovery drop of Bronze rolls or are they specific to Pool A?

Thanks in advance for your help guys.


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Must admit i know next to nothing about whats in what "pool" but i know you wont get the taskforce pool ones in either bronze or silver. Need the gold only for those

For value wise, well it totally depends on your level to be honest. The higher the level the more valuable (in terms of profit) a bronze roll would be.

What it all comes down to though is do you know how to work the market in terms of what sells/doesnt sell.

[in short yes bronze are more valuable]


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I agree with _damz the Bronze rolls are at a silly ticket price. If you can accumulate a lot of tickets, your best pay-off is level 50 bronze rolls. You can get quite a lot of value for the drops, and unless your "gaining" lots of tickets at an incredible amount of time I'd advise bronze rolls too. Otherwise, try your luck with Gold. Ye never know.

With the amounts of bronze you could get, sell on WW/BM, you could probably buy that proc' instead.

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The only problem I've found with Bronzes, red side at least, it that a lot of the drops are rather hard to sell on the BM. I've been listing them for 5 apiece and they still are difficult to shift.

With the weighting they're a Frankenslotters dream though. Excellent way to get good Enhancement values in the mid 30s onwards if you're not too fussed about set bonuses.


 

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Bronze rolls are all Pool A, so no Miracle +Recovery for you that way, I'm afraid; that particular unique is in Pool C, and furthermore only available between levels 20-40 (so if you roll on a 45-50 recipe, you WILL NOT have a chance to get it).

You could try merits (20 a throw for random, a fair few more to save up & buy direct), gold rolls, or —*I believe — Pool Cs now have a very small chance to drop from Bosses and EBs, but you'd presumably need to be fighting one of level 40 or below (and be in the right level range to get a drop) to stand a chance.

The absolute quickest way I could think of getting Miracle +Rec, without farming or blowing Inf on it, would be to run through the Shadow Shard TFs (with a decent team, 2-3 hours each) - half a day to a day's play will net you 111 (Dr Quaterfield) + 63 (Sara Moore) + 24 (Justin Augustine) + 73 (Faathim) = 271 merits total, enough for Miracle and (I think) one random roll.

Of course, you'd want to buy the Miracle +Rec proc at the lowest level possible (20) and slot it in the first slot in Health (assuming you don't also have Numina's Regen/Rec). This will keep it useful even when exemplared (a 20 one will be working even in Bloody Bay), and as the enhancement value of Miracle +Rec doesn't change, makes no difference to slotting it at level 50.


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It seems that a Bronze roll is the old Recipe Pool A drop (can be dropped by anyone, usually but not always difficult to sell) - these are yellow (uncommon) and some rare (orange) classed recipes.

A Silver roll is the Recipe Pool B - otherwise known as Door Drops, you get these when you complete a mission. These are all rare (orange) recipes, but again, they're often quite difficult to sell.

Gold rolls are the old Pool C (Taskforce) AND Pool D (trials) - naturally, you're more likely to get a 'good' recipe here as they're harder to get, but there's nothing more annoying than spending 4,000 tickets on something like an unsellable part of Trap of the Hunter or Pacing of the Turtle. The likes of Miracle: Recovery and Numina's Convalescence: Regeneration/Recovery are in this pool.

Note, however, that the likes of Karma: KB Protection, Steadfast Protection: KB Protection and Regenerative Tissue: Regeneration are all Bronze rolls, BUT they max out at level 30. Achilles Heel: Chance for Resistance Debuff (which goes for a fortune on the redside, but curiously goes for next to nothing on the blueside) is a Silver roll that maxes out at level 20.

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Ok after doing a few bronze roll crafting today i can guarantee its a lot more profitable Recipes = worthless, crafted = worth it.


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Ok after doing a few bronze roll crafting today i can guarantee its a lot more profitable Recipes = worthless, crafted = worth it.

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Why do people do this? If the recipe is basically worthless and the salvage & crafting costs are fairly cheap then why do people buy crafted versions instead?

Maybe the cost of "get it now" Salvage compared to "prepared to wait a few days to get it" Salvage accounts for it?


 

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Ok after doing a few bronze roll crafting today i can guarantee its a lot more profitable Recipes = worthless, crafted = worth it.

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Why do people do this? If the recipe is basically worthless and the salvage & crafting costs are fairly cheap then why do people buy crafted versions instead?

Maybe the cost of "get it now" Salvage compared to "prepared to wait a few days to get it" Salvage accounts for it?

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Lazyness basically. I know if i want an enhancement i wont compare prices, i'll just pay whatevers needed to get the crafted version even though it'ld save me money doing otherwise.

Take for example Touch of nictus - healing level 50. Recipe sells for less than 500k. Recipe crafting cost (round it up to 500k) + salvage (another 500/600k) is still 1/4 of the 4 mill i sold mine for earlier.

Force feedback - chance for recharge. Sold mine earlier for 2.4 million, cost me 1 million to buy the salvage + crafting cost.

I stated this in the other thread but again its only really worth it when you have a bunch of recipes to craft/sell imo. I know today i've made 30 mill (with a potential 10 mill in the market waiting) after 3 MA missions worth of bronze rolls

BTW the reason i say only do it in bulk is because 2/3 million isnt a LOT, but when you do multiple recipes/crafting then it adds up very quickly.

Edit: Just to add i paid the "get it now" kind of prices for the salvages as im impatient so could defo make the profit margin even greater.


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Thanks very much for all your replies. Looks like Bronze is the way to go! I'll save up 240 merits on one of my characters for that Miracle

And about those Achilles' Heel procs, patient bidding will get you one eventually if you're prepared to wait a week or so. Got about 3 for 100k each with my Thugs Mastermind on Union Villains.


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Of course, you'd want to buy the Miracle +Rec proc at the lowest level possible (20) and slot it in the first slot in Health (assuming you don't also have Numina's Regen/Rec). This will keep it useful even when exemplared (a 20 one will be working even in Bloody Bay), and as the enhancement value of Miracle +Rec doesn't change, makes no difference to slotting it at level 50.

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Pretty sure that since it's a unique, the level of it doesn't matter as long as the power you put it in is active during exemplaring/malefactoring. The only reason why having a lower level Miracle +recovery is good is because you can take advantage of having it earlier on endurance-heavy ATs.


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