The Dawn Patrol

((A brand-new supergroup as of today, starting it as a roleplay one

Name: The Dawn Patrol (paragon division)

Server/game: Union/Heroes

Description: A branch of the Dawn Patrol set up in Paragon City by Maiden Beam (and the other co-founders who have yet to join) after the first Rikti invasion to help rebuild Paragon and battle evil, their base is hidden within a government building in Atlas Park.

What we do: well as of yet nothing but hopefully roleplay teams, taskforces, events and chilling out in the base.

How to join: To join contact @Chiller Beam or send an ingame e-mail to Maiden Beam or send me a PM and i'll try and set up an in character (IC) interview.

Current Positions: 4 Co-founders (requirng an interview for this specific position)
when first joining you are given the Trainee rank
10k prestige- recruit
50k prestige- member
100k prestige- General

Anything else you wish to know contact me))

*EDIT* Promotions will also be based on how you act in-game.

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((Is the main requirement that heroes be of British origin? (as per The 'official' Dawn Patrol)

If so I have a candidate who is not leader material but would fit nicely in with the theme.))

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Um hey, uh well just wondering why ranks are baised of prestiege when it's an RP supergroup.

Well other then that it's an interesting idea, though a little apprihensive about creating somthing like this when we have so little lore to go on...

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((Is the main requirement that heroes be of British origin? (as per The 'official' Dawn Patrol)

If so I have a candidate who is not leader material but would fit nicely in with the theme.))

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((No, being of British origin is not a main requirment since we are based in Paragon City ))

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Um hey, uh well just wondering why ranks are baised of prestiege when it's an RP supergroup.

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thanks for pointing that out, it has now been changed and is now also based on how you act in character.

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(( http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Dawn_Patrol
They ARE British, actually. ))

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(( http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Dawn_Patrol
They ARE British, actually. ))

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((yes the original are but we are a branch set up in Paragon City, meaning we wouldn't just recruit British heroes))

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((Like I said, it just doesn't feel right... I mean the Dawn Patrol are the UKs Freedom Phalanx! They have a few memebers and go around acting like a team, um well that's all I can figure out lore wise anyway...

So uh it doesn't really make much sense for them to open a branch...))

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((Like I said, it just doesn't feel right... I mean the Dawn Patrol are the UKs Freedom Phalanx! They have a few memebers and go around acting like a team, um well that's all I can figure out lore wise anyway...

So uh it doesn't really make much sense for them to open a branch...))

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think of it like the teen titans they had; Titant west, team titans, titans L.A and titans west. And then the Avengers they had; The west cost Avengers

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((Well, just saying we've got no evidence of any of the existing groups in game doing that.

Choosing to do things like this is iffy as it could be considered god modding in game lore and the likes, just raising that viewpoint here))

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((Omega Chief makes a valid point. There is little originality in this idea and technically, writing in a Paragon City branch of the Dawn Patrol is not your call. That sort of thing is up to the developers who write that part of the game's history. Hope I've explained that well enough. Think of it as copyright infringement where the Dawn Patrol is copyrighted. Why not reimagine your supergroup backstory and think up something better than even Dawn Patrol? However, having said all that, if you really don't want to start over, that's fine too. This is only just a game and what you're doing is not a crime, or at least I don't think it is. LOL. Have fun.))

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((Omega Chief makes a valid point. There is little originality in this idea and technically, writing in a Paragon City branch of the Dawn Patrol is not your call. That sort of thing is up to the developers who write that part of the game's history. Hope I've explained that well enough. Think of it as copyright infringement where the Dawn Patrol is copyrighted. Why not reimagine your supergroup backstory and think up something better than even Dawn Patrol? However, having said all that, if you really don't want to start over, that's fine too. This is only just a game and what you're doing is not a crime, or at least I don't think it is. LOL. Have fun.))

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((if it is how your saying then i guess i may have try re-think about it's origin

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((Hey, don't worry about it! This sort of thing happens! What may seem like a good idea gets bogged down in background lore, it's why so many RPers prefer to invent thier own things and tie them to the game world where they can, rather then pluck a group out of cannon.

Don't worry about it, and if you ever want to run any ideas passed any of us (Some silly people like me ahve read upw ay too much game lore :P) we'll gladley help you out to make sure nothing like this happens again! Tha's if you want to stop mind))

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((Tha's if you want to stop mind))

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And if he doesn't, I can't say I blame him.

The idea might not be original or work quite as planned (though personally, I can't really see why not), and it might be basing a little too much on game lore that can't really be fudged like that, but damn...

That was a hell of a welcome guys.

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@Crius

Bassai, Canadian Kid, Alruna, Kahi

Mistress Rad, Culpeo, Ms. Demeanor, Celsius

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. Let's go to work.

((I'm sorry! I didn't mean it like that :< Bah it's not my night tonight.

I did mean that if he wants he can go right awahead, I was jsut trying to help out by pointing out a pitfall for breaking into RP...

But well I've said enough tonight, sorry if I offended anyone or anything :&lt)

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it is an age old RP problem , how close do you tie your RP into existing game Lore with out taking ownership of that part of the Lore . CoX has such thin lore with so many holes and Dev who show no consistent development path , any Idea tied in runs the risk of lore conflict .


That said the Devs do give us , Vanguard cosies , lore super/villain group logos , and the whole VEAT tie in to the main villain group , which does seem they are encouraging us to make characters who live and work inside the in game groups .

In the case of a US branch of Dawn Patrol , I guess its how close you want to be to the lore Dawn Patrol , or if you a just treating it as a ex pats club , under a brand name .
The important thing is that you are RPing ..and that gets you a big thumbs up .. go for it ..after all everyone loves to watch a crash and burn and get to say I told you so ..But if you can have fun doing it its still a win .. I say go for it and see what happens ..most ideas mutate under the glare of RP, and you have already shown that you are prepared to listen to what others say , which makes you a good RPer from the start …

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If it was anyone other than the Dawn Patrol, I'd say just go for it.
But, even in the scant background we get, they are meant to be something special. And they are the UK equivelant of the Phalanx, which aside from Longbow, people start raising eyebrows and being sceptical if people say they are members.

That said...the Patrol wouldn't have the clout of the Phalanx in the US, reputation and push wise (power wise they might have), so it might be possible to get away with it...
Damn, if this does start up I may well slaughter an alt to roll up some sort of Hero for my homeland

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Practically every character gets to be a Phalanx Reservist at some point, so it's not that out of whack.

I don't see a problem with it. We don't see other groups doing this in game because... well we never really leave Paragon the rest of the world is very, very rarely referenced how would we see them?

Then again we've had heroes from the PPD, Hero Corp, Freedom Corp and the Midnighters and no one got hung out to dry for doing that. I don't really see it being a big problem, providing the group isn't claiming to be the A-List Dawn Patrol members. We've made a bunch of stuff up IC, from different wings of the PPD, to the entire Press and Media wing of Hero Corps and I don't think anyone ever really complained about those. So go for it!

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Then again we've had heroes from the PPD, Hero Corp, Freedom Corp and the Midnighters and no one got hung out to dry for doing that. I don't really see it being a big problem, providing the group isn't claiming to be the A-List Dawn Patrol members. We've made a bunch of stuff up IC, from different wings of the PPD, to the entire Press and Media wing of Hero Corps and I don't think anyone ever really complained about those. So go for it!

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This is what I was thinking.

I mean jeez, Aisha's an African-American Female officer in the Awakened division of the PPD. A division notorious for consisting entirely of deathly-white males who are bald. All of them.



A small branch of The Dawn Patrol being stationed in Paragon, perhaps some "reserve" members who are eager to prove the UK's heroes are just as good, and get training in the true "City Of Heroes" and terror hotspot of the world?

I like the idea.

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@Crius

Bassai, Canadian Kid, Alruna, Kahi

Mistress Rad, Culpeo, Ms. Demeanor, Celsius

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. Let's go to work.

((As said he can go for it! But there's a difference between a character who belongs to a prexisting group and making up a brand new group that doesn't otherwise exist.

Now I might have given the wrong impression here, by all measn Chiller beam, set this up, you've sure had enough positive response. I just got a little carried away with a warning of being carful with things like this.))

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((I'm of two minds about this idea (as a result of which, my final answer is "Go for it!").

Firstly, the Dawn Patrol is THE British supergroup, and it seems a little odd for them to operate a satellite branch in the USA, however... the official history indicates that the DP took advantage of the CCFA, which would seem to indicate that they have established a presence in the US, at least at some point in the past.

Doing this, my suggestion would be that some care is taken (IC) about avoiding "stepping on toes" between the Dawn Patrol and the Freedom Phalanx, because this could be seen as a violation of territory - while I have no doubt that the FP will happily work alongside the actual DP members, Statesman is enough of a snooty goit to possibly view a US-based division as "uppity youngsters".

Of course, there's actually no reason that the Paragon Division Dawn Patrol has to be actually franchised by the British Dawn Patrol - which might make for some entertaining RP opportunities - they may have simply taken the name, 'without permission', but if they do a good job, no one's likely to complain.

So many options, so little time... Go for it, Beam.))

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Poster above me makes a very good point. I would say go for it, but for obvious reasons, make it so only characters that are British (obviously don't necessarily have to be players) can only join the Dawn Patrol. Even if it is Paragon, the Dawn Patrol is formed entirely of british.

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Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.

I appreciate that as a new player, all this debating might have confused you by now Chiller Beam, LOL. That's what we're like around here, we enjoy a good old constructive arguement, and contrary to popular opinion, it is all good-natured. Anyway, the bottom line is, you're free to do what you like but some people will suggest that you avoid calling yourself the Dawn Patrol, so as not to offend those who may see it as god-modding canon.

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((Well since there's some good response i'll go ahead with it, make afew alterations as in making it british members, and some other things but otherwise the Dawn Patrol is up and just needs some members.))

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