Super Reflexes... How's it work?


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I've been playing around with SR in Mids Hero Designer, with all the defense powers on and slotted with defense SO's, I get around 30% defense. That doesnt really seem a lot to me since defense is the only... defense a SR scrapper gets.

Does the entire set rely on broadswords or katana's and the parry ability which lets you bump your defense up to crazy levels?

Is SR viable with other powersets?

Is 30% defense more powerful than it sounds, I take 30% defense as 30% change not to be hit. Is that the case?

On the topic of defense, how does the new Shields powerset work out?

I look forward to some constructive posts on the subject, please don't flame me for my n00bishness.


 

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Working as intended. Defense is a little iffy in that sense, cause you're nearly untouchable when you reach softcap for defense (45%).
shields work pretty much the same, except you'll only have 23-25% or so defense, but then the extra hitpoints and resistances shields have is supposed to make up for it. (shields were balances agaisnt super reflexes i think castle said). They're not balanced with parry in mind, or with IOs in mind.
30% defense is quite alot really. Means they have a 20% chance to hit you (one in five). The thing is the higher defense you got the better it generally becomes. 45% defense means they have 5% chance to hit you (one in 20). So bumping Defense from say 0 to 5% will not have as much visually noticeable effect as it does bumping it from 40 to 45% for example.

0% defense means they have a 50% chance to hit you (10 out of 20 hits)
5% defense means they have a 45% chance to hit you (9 out of 20).
40% defense means they have a 10% chance to hit you (2 out of 20)
45% defense means they have 5% chance to hit you (1 out of 20)

So going from 0 to 5% will make you get hit 10% less often. while going from 40 to 45% will make you take half the amount of hits.

With some creative IO slotting you can reach the soft cap on defense with both shields and super reflexes. While my only super reflex char is in her mid 30's and not IO'd out at all, i do have a fully IO'd out shield user who feels pretty gosh darned invincible at times.


 

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This is my subjective opinion, not an absolute truth or anything, but defense sets feel pretty anemic before IO set bonuses. SR being the worst in that sense, since it has nothing to fall back on when things -do- hit you.

I prefer hybrid sets like Invulnerability, which have resistances to fall back on. But that's just me. Mileage may vary per user, paired powerset, playstyle, environment, etc.


 

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I found that defense sets were weak before the IO set bonus but after are much cheaper to make stupidly powerful than other sets.

Have soft capped SR three times now and the most expensive of those was 350 million, the cheapest was about 200 million. That's not bad outlay to be that powerful IMO


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so what are the best set to use and reach the cap?


 

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Defense set: Red Fortune gives ranged def.
Melee set: Touch of Death gives melee. Makos give ranged def.
Pbaoe sets: sciroccos give aoe def. obliteration give melee def. multi-strike give melee and aoe.
tohit buff: gaussian gives melee, ranged and aoe def.
universal travel: blessing of zephyr give ranged and aoe def.
resist dmg: aegis give aoe def.
end mod: performance shifter give aoe def.

prob some more, but those i recall ontop of my head.


 

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Serendipity and Red Fortune in defences
ToD and Mako's in ST
Multistrike in PBAOEs

That's in my opinion the cheapest way to get your def cap. Mixing and matching till you do

If you have Tough put the 3% steadfast in it but that costs some


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They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
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with one leg missing
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Use Dark Melee with it. With some Frankenslotting from the new Accurate Healing IO sets you can have your cake and eat it too, by making Siphon Life an accurate heal that hits like a freight train and doesn't cost too much endurance.

It's almost like cheating! *giggles idiotically and sucks out Cynics soul*


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Use Dark Melee with it. With some Frankenslotting from the new Accurate Healing IO sets you can have your cake and eat it too, by making Siphon Life an accurate heal that hits like a freight train and doesn't cost too much endurance.

It's almost like cheating! *giggles idiotically and sucks out Cynics soul*

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Heh, well my DM/SR has solo'd a couple of AVs now and I'd like to point out that it is in no way cheating at all, its all perfectly fair


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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All primaries are good with sr