dual pistol nomination


Alvan

 

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i know i know, you think "there he go's again", just hear me out.
some time ago we had quite some ppl wanting dual pistols, but trough time the ideas got lost.
so i made this thread, dedicated to all the ideas.
everyone who made an idea clear enough has a chance, and YOU can vote who has the most successful idea.
the ideas have bin made, now it's voting time.

1.commander_beet
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/sh...age=2&vc=1

2.starcrash
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...e=5#Post1160569

3.statesman_4_prez
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

4. dreamweaver (scroll a bit down)
http://uk.boards.cityofheroes.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

all i could find that makes any sense, seems they cleaned the forum.

anyway, place your vote, and speak out.
which one do you like and who will win?
who knows, maybe a dev thinks about implanting the idea.


 

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ooo lol it was ages since i made that post

I vote any just as long as one of them comes in.
To add to my idea, they could make a small fortune if they do the set in a addon pack with guns holster costume piece and maybe with cowboy chaps.


 

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Also in reply to statesman_4_prez's post, i dont think it will be as simple as using current npc animations due to scaling.

BAB's does a great job coming up with the animations anyway usually.

Looking at mine again, i think mine would be a little overpowered but a second -resist would be good because not many people like the sonic sets much.

Also i think its very unlikely the pistol assualt set idea would come into play, im thinking its more likely just going to be corrupter, blaster and defender.


 

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And the point is?

Can vote all we want, the devs, when they decide to put it in. Will still go with their version, not one we cook up here...


 

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And why on here and not in suggestions?


 

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And why on here and not in suggestions?

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because its a vote not a suggestion


 

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And the point is?

Can vote all we want, the devs, when they decide to put it in. Will still go with their version, not one we cook up here...

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in the off chance that a dev looks through the uk forums, they could spot which ideas seem most popular and use some of the ideas in there own implementation.

thats a bit like saying why post on the forums in the first place because nothing we say gets done.


 

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And the point is?

Can vote all we want, the devs, when they decide to put it in. Will still go with their version, not one we cook up here...

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in the off chance that a dev looks through the uk forums, they could spot which ideas seem most popular and use some of the ideas in there own implementation.

thats a bit like saying why post on the forums in the first place because nothing we say gets done.

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Devs can get ideas, yes sure. Thats why we have suggestion part of the forum. There are threads about dual pistols there, way way way more then the four Sorudo posted, and more than likely been summaried and submitted to the devs.

Voting between em will do naught, nil, zip, zero, nada.

The time when our input will actually make a diffrence, is when they are beta testing dual pistol set. The devs are infinitaly better at balancing out the sets than we are. Castle has shown that they are indeed willing to listen to us on ideas and such.

But the dual pistol set ain't there yet. So far we can only pretty much say that we'd like the dual pistol set, devs have said it'll come, eventually. We can post ideas on powers which we would like to see. But voting on the powers is nearly useless.

Much better to post ideas in the suggestion forum.
Like "I would like a dual pistol power where you shoot every around you like from movie equlibrium" or "I would like dual pistols to work combos much like dual blades" etc etc.


 

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Devs can get ideas, yes sure. Thats why we have suggestion part of the forum. There are threads about dual pistols there, way way way more then the four Sorudo posted, and more than likely been summaried and submitted to the devs.

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and if you read my post, then you know i already said they cleaned up the forum.
search all you want, i can't get any further then page 12.

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Voting between em will do naught, nil, zip, zero, nada.

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doing and saying nothing about it does that, not mentioning it more.

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The time when our input will actually make a diffrence, is when they are beta testing dual pistol set. The devs are infinitaly better at balancing out the sets than we are. Castle has shown that they are indeed willing to listen to us on ideas and such.

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and since when do you work with NCsoft?

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But the dual pistol set ain't there yet. So far we can only pretty much say that we'd like the dual pistol set, devs have said it'll come, eventually. We can post ideas on powers which we would like to see. But voting on the powers is nearly useless.

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saying nothing is even more useless, same with just making the same old thread all over again.
it's better to gather the ideas all together and make one good one from it, rather then having 20 threads with exactly the same idea behind it, finding out that only 3-5 ideas stand out.

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Much better to post ideas in the suggestion forum.
Like "I would like a dual pistol power where you shoot every around you like from movie equlibrium" or "I would like dual pistols to work combos much like dual blades" etc etc.

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where in this thread is a suggestion?
it's about voting systems that might be good, not a thread about how much this thread must according to you go to the suggestion forum.

stay on-topic, or just don't post at all, shees.


 

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and since when do you work with NCsoft?


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Never said i did, but i have played this game since it launched in april 2004. Kinda gotten a feel for how devs go about things.

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saying nothing is even more useless, same with just making the same old thread all over again.
it's better to gather the ideas all together and make one good one from it, rather then having 20 threads with exactly the same idea behind it, finding out that only 3-5 ideas stand out.


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I said voting is useless, i never said to say nothing. If you wanna be heard, head over to suggestion section and make suggestions there.


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stay on-topic, or just don't post at all, shees.

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I am quite ontopic, i'm very keen on seeing dual pistols make it into the game, i was merely pointing out you're going at the wrong way. Head over to suggestion forum and *make* suggestions, not voting between old ones ><


 

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Devs can get ideas, yes sure.

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I13 has already shown us that

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Don't we know it?

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The time when our input will actually make a diffrence, is when they are beta testing dual pistol set. The devs are infinitaly better at balancing out the sets than we are. Castle has shown that they are indeed willing to listen to us on ideas and such.

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What like they have listened to our thoughts about shields and the endurence cost of mastermind upgrade changes since test?

Every issue ive seen has had only very slight changes since been in test and 90% of the bugs still remain on live so why not get there train of thought the same as ours from the begining of the plan rather than trying to change there mind after they have spent ages working on it?

Although technically the post is a group of suggestions it is more like a summary to see which is the better idea so if in the off chance some red name does come past the post they know generally what we would like to see within the set.

Thats why its a vote, not a suggestion and therefore would be in wrong forum had it been in suggestions.


 

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I gave this a lot of thought.

I think my vote goes to Lee Van Cleef.

I think this isn't a bad thread but Sapphi does have a good point. We're not the final arbiters [sic] of any decison the devs make. Ultimately they will choose a combo of what's been suggested and what's doable. Then they will mod it to make sure it's not game breaking.

We will get something unique and workable. It will [censored] some people off and please others.

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I agree with that Scarlet, but as mentioned before voting of what ideas we think are better than the others at least gives them the idea of what we as a customer would like to see in the majority.
I realise there not going to copy the sets power for power but if they have an overwhelming approval for a certain idea they would at least take a mental note whilst creating there own version.


 

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My feeling about Dual Pistols is that it should use a combo system, similar to Dual Blades.

That would add a new gameplay variant to ranged ATs, rather than simply being yet another lethal damage set.


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And the point is?

Can vote all we want, the devs, when they decide to put it in. Will still go with their version, not one we cook up here...

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in the off chance that a dev looks through the uk forums, they could spot which ideas seem most popular and use some of the ideas in there own implementation.

thats a bit like saying why post on the forums in the first place because nothing we say gets done.

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Or the thread can be locked for a)Being off topic, this is general discussion and not suggestions and b)A vote which IIRC is against the rules.

If the devs have to trawl through every different board on the off chance that a suggestion is made out of the suggestion boards then they['ll have less time to actually read the place where the actual suggestions are.


 

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can you stop the attempted flaming please and keep it on topic. Its not a suggestion we already have covered this.


 

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I heard that Akimbo pistols were going to be for corruptors.


 

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can you stop the attempted flaming please and keep it on topic. Its not a suggestion we already have covered this.

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Indeed, it is a perfectly sensible topic for discussion.


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That would add a new gameplay variant to ranged ATs, rather than simply being yet another lethal damage set.

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That's pretty much the best point about Dual Pistols I've heard through these arguments, summarized. DP, while thematically cool, would have to have some significantly different mechanics from AR and Archery. I'm already a bit annoyed at Archery for being Assault Rifle 2: The Electric Bogaloo when it comes to mechanics. Having yet another set that does pretty much the same would not be cool.


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I agree alvan, but im not sure a duel blades style combo system would be good either, in my opinion combos werent such a good idea because it forced you to get all the powers in the set just so you could do certain combos, and due to that there was a lack of damage from the set.

Whilst it was a good idea on paper, i dont particularly think it worked right in game.


 

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Just to add to my last post, what about another type of system, where you could add an elemental type to your ammo in it?

For instance when you get up to a certain point you could choose one element to power your ammo with, it would be chosen from a menu like with veteran rewards and award a clicky that adds damage of that type to your attack for a certain time peroid. Like if i chose fire ammo for instance, to would shoot small firey rounds at the target, doing fire damage and maybe have a chance to burn, where as if i picked ice, icicle type bullets would fire and have a chance to slow.

The only way to change your selected element once chosen would be to do a respec to stop people linking various elements together and do a godmode style

I think it would make a nice change to a bog standard lethal only damage or a combo system.


 

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i wouldn't worry about devs not seeing us on the city of sidekicks board, on their own US forum i'm quite sure there are more than a few folks demanding the right to bear arms in a videogame.

still don't see why its taking so long tho.


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