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What utter utter rubbish.. I really don't know why people persist in believing this blatant falsehood... Kheldians have LOADS of mez protection; arguably some of the best mez protection in game, in fact. It's called Dwarf Form. It's a toggle power, just like many other forms of mez protection. All you have to do is click it, and bam.. No one is mezzing you. If fact, with these changes, it just got better too.
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Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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AND ALL ATS WITH NO MEZ PROTECTION JUST SUCK IN PVP. LOOK AT BLASTERS AND CORRUPTORS FOR EXAMPLE.
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Yeh lets look at blasters. No mez protection true but a humongous amount of damage output. Way above anything a PB could ever dream of. Who needs mez prot when u can kill anything in 5-10 seconds.
Fender is also a nice comparison as PBs damage is in the same ballpark as fenders secondary. Fenders primaries offer huge amounts of mitigation. Either direct defence WITH mez protection sonic/FF or huge amounts of debuff - who needs mez prot when your opponent cant hit you? RAD or Dark for example.
Same goes for corruptors who are a mixture of the two.
You missed the bit about the damage biuff then I gather...
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Can't kill a PB in dwarf form.
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No one informed you about the to hit buff in nova form then?
Not to mention things called inspirations?
It's not keldians that suck in PvP. It might be the person playing them...
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What utter utter rubbish.. I really don't know why people persist in believing this blatant falsehood... Kheldians have LOADS of mez protection; arguably some of the best mez protection in game, in fact. It's called Dwarf Form. It's a toggle power, just like many other forms of mez protection. All you have to do is click it, and bam.. No one is mezzing you. If fact, with these changes, it just got better too.
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And BAM you are completely useless to all. No damage, very poor aggro control. You STILL have to retoggle back in human form.
I have a human/dwarf pb and i know full well how useless dwarf form is. That argument is old. Try fighting a map of CoT or any of the other non stop mezzers and tell me that a pb is contributing anything bar novelty to a team.
They will continue to be such. Novelty AT that gets invited to teams out of pity. Until the CYST turns up and the team breaks up or they force the pb to change toons.
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Can't kill a PB in dwarf form.
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No one informed you about the to hit buff in nova form then?
Not to mention things called inspirations?
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The damage buff isnt that great. Still a huge way short of blasters and you know it.
Going into nova form in pvp is suicidal to say the least.
Dwarf form is useless for anything and in pvp you will die quickly. An em stalker will mince you very quickly.
Ill duel you anytime with my pb if u want. I do pvp with it now and again but mainly for the aforementioned novelty value. Until every single person guns for you shouting "LOLPVPB!" And I have beaten a few VEATs in 1v1 duels. And the hardest VEAT duel was with a crab spider.
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And BAM you are completely useless to all. No damage, very poor aggro control. You STILL have to retoggle back in human form.
I have a human/dwarf pb and i know full well how useless dwarf form is. That argument is old. Try fighting a map of CoT or any of the other non stop mezzers and tell me that a pb is contributing anything bar novelty to a team.
They will continue to be such. Novelty AT that gets invited to teams out of pity. Until the CYST turns up and the team breaks up or they force the pb to change toons.
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Perhaps useless to you, but that might just be down to build or play style. Personally, my triform PB steamrolls through pretty much ALL mobs, only slowing down a little for EB's and Malta sappers. Dwarf form is FAR from useless either. I can quite happily tank AV's as long as there's an empath around to throw a heal at me every once in a while.
TBH, your comment about Cysts is kind of telling. I don't have ANY problems dealing with those things, and usually solo the buggers even when teaming.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
You really don't know how to play a PB do you?
Currently, they are virtually unkillable in PvP. Yes, they have difficulty killing non-squishy foes, but the changes will make them better. They still won't be the best PvPers on the block, but then you said you din't like games with balanced PvP anyway.
As for PvE, if you are stuck in dwarf form, you obviously havn't noticed your inspiration tray or Light Form. You clearly haven't discovered the Photon Seeker/Dawn Strike alpha combo. Dead CoT can't mezz you. You haven't considered using Pulsar to mezz the mobs before they mezz you. You haven't twiged that it doesn't matter if you are defeated, because you can instantly rez yourself.
And with the new changes, you will have even less excuse for being a chicken and staying in dwarf form in case you get mezzed, since you can wait until you are mezzed, then turn it on.
I really should do something about this signature.
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THAT kind of attitude is exactly why so many people can't stand PvP in this game... It's full of immature idiots who think that their ultra optimised, fully purpled out, PvP only toons are the business.
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And BAM you are completely useless to all. No damage, very poor aggro control. You STILL have to retoggle back in human form.
I have a human/dwarf pb and i know full well how useless dwarf form is. That argument is old. Try fighting a map of CoT or any of the other non stop mezzers and tell me that a pb is contributing anything bar novelty to a team.
They will continue to be such. Novelty AT that gets invited to teams out of pity. Until the CYST turns up and the team breaks up or they force the pb to change toons.
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Perhaps useless to you, but that might just be down to build or play style. Personally, my triform PB steamrolls through pretty much ALL mobs, only slowing down a little for EB's and Malta sappers. Dwarf form is FAR from useless either. I can quite happily tank AV's as long as there's an empath around to throw a heal at me every once in a while.
TBH, your comment about Cysts is kind of telling. I don't have ANY problems dealing with those things, and usually solo the buggers even when teaming.
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Come on. When fighting +2 or +3 missions with a cyst next to an AV????? You may have no problem but that doesnt mean your team wont.
Dwarf is poor. After 35 they cant come anywhere close to a tanker on practically any level.
Apart from the not falling down when things hit you bit you mean?
I really should do something about this signature.
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Come on. When fighting +2 or +3 missions with a cyst next to an AV????? You may have no problem but that doesnt mean your team wont.
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I let the team worry about the AV whilst I slap the Cyst. Quick warning before it blows so they can get out of range, and jobs a good un.
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Dwarf is poor. After 35 they cant come anywhere close to a tanker on practically any level.
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Whilst dwarf damage is low, and it could do with an auto-hit in the taunt, I don't really have ANY problems tanking with it. I can hold an AV without too much bother, and can even knock it down sometimes with the foot stomp. Sure they're not as good at tanking as a pure tank, but you're making the mistake many people make; they're not SUPPOSED to be!
TBH, I wish people would stop comparing them to the other AT's. They're nothing like them, and were never MEANT to be anything like them. You don't see anywhere NEAR as much comparison with the VEATs, so why do people keep doing it to the HEATs? Treat them as a unique AT instead of comparing them to others, and maybe, just maybe, you'll figure out how to actually PLAY them.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
He clearly knows nothing about VEATs if he thinks a crab spider can beat anything in PvP.
I really should do something about this signature.
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They will continue to be such. Novelty AT that gets invited to teams out of pity. Until the CYST turns up and the team breaks up or they force the pb to change toons.
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Perhaps useless to you, but that might just be down to build or play style. Personally, my triform PB steamrolls through pretty much ALL mobs, only slowing down a little for EB's and Malta sappers. Dwarf form is FAR from useless either. I can quite happily tank AV's as long as there's an empath around to throw a heal at me every once in a while.
TBH, your comment about Cysts is kind of telling. I don't have ANY problems dealing with those things, and usually solo the buggers even when teaming.
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Come on. When fighting +2 or +3 missions with a cyst next to an AV????? You may have no problem but that doesnt mean your team wont.
Dwarf is poor. After 35 they cant come anywhere close to a tanker on practically any level.
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Ok. I completely and utterly disagree with that statement. My SG Leader plays a tanking PB for all of our SG TFs (Lady Greys was the last I did) and he honestly outtanks most tanks I've teamed with on him.
Plus, what Tank can decide to go into God mode in order to AOE nuke a spawn whenever they feel like it? Or, if another tank joins the team, can decide to become a blapper or floating blaster thingy?
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TBH, I wish people would stop comparing them to the other AT's. They're nothing like them, and were never MEANT to be anything like them. You don't see anywhere NEAR as much comparison with the VEATs, so why do people keep doing it to the HEATs? Treat them as a unique AT instead of comparing them to others, and maybe, just maybe, you'll figure out how to actually PLAY them.
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This is totally true. It always seems to be something on the Hero side too, Villains are much more flexible in their roles and people never seem to have issues with it. But for Khelds there's always the "Can't tank as well as a tank, can't blast as well as a Blaster" line.
They can do almost as well [u]AT BOTH[u]. Often within seconds of each other!
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And BAM you are completely useless to all. No damage, very poor aggro control. You STILL have to retoggle back in human form.
I have a human/dwarf pb and i know full well how useless dwarf form is. That argument is old. Try fighting a map of CoT or any of the other non stop mezzers and tell me that a pb is contributing anything bar novelty to a team.
They will continue to be such. Novelty AT that gets invited to teams out of pity. Until the CYST turns up and the team breaks up or they force the pb to change toons.
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Perhaps useless to you, but that might just be down to build or play style. Personally, my triform PB steamrolls through pretty much ALL mobs, only slowing down a little for EB's and Malta sappers. Dwarf form is FAR from useless either. I can quite happily tank AV's as long as there's an empath around to throw a heal at me every once in a while.
TBH, your comment about Cysts is kind of telling. I don't have ANY problems dealing with those things, and usually solo the buggers even when teaming.
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I'll back the Floating Fat one up here.
Kheldians are an asset on teams only if your playstyle suits being the "jack of all trades master of none".
Go in expecting to be as damaging as a Blaster or as survivable as a tank and you'll be disappointed.
Warshades are better at PvE gank steamrolling squads than PBs. They can mow through mobs like nobodys business and can actually rival a Fire blaster at higher levels. They aren't so great at backup tanking in Dwarf form though, no Essence Boost or Footstomp and their self-heal requires a tohit check.
Peacebringers are more single target damage dealers, they have some AoE in Nova (which is nearly as good as a Warshades if there's a Kin on the team, and I say "nearly" only because of the WS pets) but their main strength lies in balancing damage with backup tanking. The PB Dwarf tank is VERY effective if you have the Heal, Taunt and Footstomp well slotted and decent levels of accuracy for the taunt/stomp.
Cysts should not bother any decent higher level team. (Read: anything above level 20 that has at least one well-built melee or ranged damage dealer, and at least one player that uses a targetting macro).
My PB for example has also successfully SOLOED two +2 cysts and a +2 Elite Boss. All at the same time. The only thing that poses a decent threat to a Kheld these days is a Boss level Void (and even then these days you can actually resist their "quantum" damage type... in the old days they'd just one-shot you even in Dwarf form with Essence Boost up!) 
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And in case you don't think a damage-dealer-with-backup-tanking-ability is a nice addition to a PvE mission team, what about when you hit a T junction and you split? Or your Tanker goes over the aggro cap? Or the Tanker faceplants when fighting an AV? Or you HAVE no Tanker? Or you get an ambush whilst in the middle of fighting another mob?
My Peacebringer regularly out-tanked dedicated tanks when I was levelling him. He almost always out-tanks regular tanks now that he's fully IO'ed up and sitting at level 50. The ONLY thing he has problems with are certain AVs (which the tweaks to Cosmic Balance will fix, making him stupidly survivable) or ToHit/Recharge debuffs and endurance drains whch limit his aggro-grabbing (a FF +recharge proc in Footstomp fixes the recharge problem).
He has even Tanked the Psionic Clockwork King on at least four occasions, taking the Alpha in Quantum Flight then tanking in Dwarf with Essence boost up, even though PBs get zero defence and resistance to Psi damage.
This is not to say that he's better than any given Tanker (which would be silly looking at the numbers, I have an INV tanker that is generally far more survivable and is certainly much better at aggro control) but he's by far better and more reliable than most PUG tankers I've encountered, simply because there is someone behind the wheel that is alert, knows the game mechanics and knows how to use his own powers effectively.
...and if your team doesn't happen to need a tanker at that precise moment, you can always just stay in Human or Nova and give any of the S/L-damage-dealing Scrappers a run for their money... 
My PB is not as damaging as my Fire Blaster/Katana Scrapper or as survivable as my INV tank. He is however NEARLY as damaging and NEARLY as survivable (when teamed with Cosmic Balance running), and can flick between the two states practically instantly. Such diversity has saved the day in manys-a-PUG.
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Nice misquote. I never said anything of the sort.
Also nice to see the personal insults float in. I dont remember once alluding to any other posters gaming skill.
I do have a 50 PB that I played to 50. I played a WS to 44 but deleted it as it didnt ultimately suit my playstyle. I have healthy respect for WS all the same and they can be truly awesome ATs in the right hands.
And as far as my skill with khelds goes I believe I am pretty good thank you. I have over time tried the different permutations at different levels and at 50. I think I have respecced that toon more than any other just out of curiosity for different styles. Tri, human/dwarf and human only. I did a fair amount of psuedo tanking from 22-40ish.
Current build is human/dwarf and as in all my PBs incarnations it is practically unstoppable in PVE. Through lightform then a reasonably slotted dwarf and human form if viable in the circumstances, I will constantly be pouring out damage and if needed some aggro control in all forms.
The only downtime is lightform crash which usually will be about 5-10 seconds to pop some blues then back into the fray.
On my WS I used the standard tactics of the stun aura>double mires/eclipse>Nova form with as many fluffies out as possible.
Depending on build I have full sets of binds for flipping forms and putting a shield up, changing trays etc.
But hey what do i know? I would be very interested to see some of you khelds work your godlike genius and put me to shame. I thought I had a healthy understanding of khelds play styles but obviously not.
Tbh I would prefer anything over watching 99% of PBs i see sat in dwarf when there is a real tanker in the team.
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Nice misquote. I never said anything of the sort.
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You said a crab could beat a keldian in PvP. Thus, you said they could beat something in PvP. They can't even come close. Crabs are great, but PvPers they aint.
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watching 99% of PBs i see sat in dwarf when there is a real tanker in the team.
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Eh, yes. If you sit in dwarf form, you won't be very effective at anything. I suggest that this is what you are doing wrong. You are so afraid that you might be mezzed that you are spending far to much time in dwarf. Fact is, on a team with the likes of blasters and tanks you won't be even be targeted all that often, if you have contollers you do have mez protection, if you use your abilities effectively the mobs will be dead or mezzed before they can mez you, it doesn't matter if a PB looses its shields, since its powerful click heals contibute more to suvivability anyway, and if all else fails, there are break frees.
I really should do something about this signature.
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He clearly knows nothing about VEATs if he thinks a crab spider can beat anything in PvP.
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He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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Eh, yes. If you sit in dwarf form, you won't be very effective at anything. I suggest that this is what you are doing wrong. You are so afraid that you might be mezzed that you are spending far to much time in dwarf.
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As I see it, this is "potentially" changing a persons words/meaning on them.
Is this thread padded with that?
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
I suggest you read the whole thread, before asuming we are misiterpeting what people say based on single comments. You are the one who is jumping to conclusions without reading the whole of what has been said.
e.g. in an earlier post he says:
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True pvp may be different in i13. Still while u can pvp with a pb, human form will still be useless without light form. No huge difference from how it stands now. Two minutes of mediocre damage output then just not dying the rest of the time. Crab spider will still pwn a pb.
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If he had later corrected himself, as said "whoops, I meant Bane spider, I "would have given him the benefit of the doubt, it would at least be a more even fight. If he had said, a fortunata wil pwn a PB, then that would be true. But he specifies crab, with weak single target damage, light defenses, low hp, and no effective mezzes, which clearly shows he has no idea what he is talking about.
Maelwys, FFM, Carnifax, and myself all say it is possible for a PB to be effective without mez protection. Charnel has said it is catagorically impossible for a PB to be worth anything other than a pity spot, moreover, he also says, that even with the substantial damage buffs and no more toggle dropping it will still be impossible for a PB it be effective without mez protection.
Now this is clearly rubbish, since blasters, controllers, defenders, corruptors all manage to be effective witout mez protection. He has clearly also forgotten, or conviently chooses to ignore, the existance of Break Frees.
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Which is consistant with what the rest of us find, but not consistant with the rest of what he is being saying.
I really should do something about this signature.
I never said a crab would beat anything other than a pb. How many duels have u actually fought with a pb praf? I think I have used mine on a fair cross section of ATs in pvp. And Crabby's with all those pets out can suck end rapidly and no end makes a pb sad.
Maybe we should just end it here. Obviously I am not entitled to my opinion and I know nothing and am rubbish at playing khelds. Truthfully you are the first person to say this to me as responses from people i team with on my pb are quite the opposite but hey, who the hell are they to argue with you?
I could well be wrong and HEATs will be hugely improved in i13 but I cant see how anything much will change for them in PvP. I still find the mez prot trade off pretty odd for PBs. Maybe if they just deleted the shields and replaced them with better powers I would have been happier.
Oh sorry am I supposed to cast aspersions on Prafs pb skill here? Well sorry I have no idea what that skill is. Number crunching and churning out builds and facts never seem to have a direct link to actual skill in my experience and also I have never seen Praf in game.
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Enough. I don't win many, but I have never, ever been defeated in pvP with my PB. I have also played a crab to level 50 in PvE and PvP. Bottom line is, Crab have nothing that can mez PB, End recovery in Light Form is enough to beat any end drain from Call Reinforcements, assuming the PB doesn't hammer the crab before he can get them out, and the PB can easily do enough damage to defeat the crab before light form expires, even without the I13 damage buff. And if the fight goes badly forthe PB they can always go dwarf and TP away. Basically, the best a crab could hope achieve would be a draw, unless they where fighting a very stupid PB.
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So? If you don't like it you don't have to play them. You say yoursef your PB can steamroller in PvE. You want to be a steamroller and have mez protection? Do you not think that would be very very unbalanced?! However, many of us like our keldians and are very happy with the changes announced for issue 13.
I really should do something about this signature.
So basically you have never fought a duel with you PB?
TPing away is not dueling. And usually its good form to let your opponent set up to some degree.
I have beaten Crabs easily in a rolling zonal battle but in a duel I have found them to be a lot harder.
I really want to duel your unbeaten PB. What server do you play on Praf?
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So basically you have never fought a duel with you PB?
TPing away is not dueling. And usually its good form to let your opponent set up to some degree.
I have beaten Crabs easily in a rolling zonal battle but in a duel I have found them to be a lot harder.
I really want to duel your unbeaten PB. What server do you play on Praf?
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Duelling is fighting one-on-one with another toon in the arena. And I can think of only TWO combos in the entire pantheon of possible CoH and CoV characters that could actually beat a Peacebringer.
One is a /Psi permadom that is set up to exploit Drain Psyche. The first thing that can possibly beat a properly configured Peacebringer one-on-one is keeping their endurance bar at precisely zero (as soon as it rises above that, they'll just slip into Quantum Flight).
The second is a Cold Defender that exploits the insane levels of -Recharge which that build brings to bear. And even then it could be a close call if the Peacebringer is very good at Teleport Kiting in Dwarf form, is built for +regen or has taken Phase Shift on top of Quantum Flight.
The rest of the times the Peacebringer will always be able to force a draw. Mainly by simply kiting in Dwarf/Light form or Quantum Flight. It used to be that you could keep Quantum Flight up for well over two minutes at a time (before the nerf to 30 secs). Back then I'd say not even those two builds could have managed it.
Note that I said "force a draw", not "force a win". Peacebringers are [u]incredibly[u] survivable, but no ranged mezzes and no insane damage output makes for all the offensive effectiveness of a wet noodle. Which is why nobody in their right mind ever actually duels with them for anything other than a laugh at the challenger's expense.
PBs CAN be effective in small PvP teams, but in larger ones they typically just take up a "Damage Dealer" slot that could be better filled by another AT. The few times I've been GLAD of PvPing on my PB have been on small casual teams when I'm not getting noticably buffed. In those cases if another toon can ground or slow an enemy, then a Peacebringer can contribute some nice damage without being at much risk of dying themselves. I have soloed and killed a Granite Brute one-on-one on my PB, who made the mistake of staying toe-to-toe with me. But it took well over five minutes, and there was no way I could have stopped him from moving.
All that said, Crab Spiders are not really terrible duellists if they're well set up. You simply need to build them for pets + survivability (Tough/Aid Self helps) and exploit WA Webnade or the BS Patron immob lots.
PBs can survive well in pvp but to say only two builds can beat them is so far from the truth. Offhand - Any rad/cold debuffer, ss/wp brute, em/wp stalker, fire or ice/nrg blaster, any domi. Probably a bs/fire scrapper.
There is no combination of sets/skill/build that is unbeatable in pvp. And in the great scheme of things I would offhand say that a wp stalker has far better survivability with far less effort. Yes I can stay alive on my PB but then again I can stay alive on my other toons while also actually having something substantial to offer.
The only real reason I take my pb into pvp is purely for the fun factor. Beating somebody with a PB is always incredibly satisfying. Especially when it is the main person in the zone ripping on khelds. But if the action hots up and more serious players get involved I usually switch to something else.
I think most of us have tried PvP in CoH at one time or another anyway. I know I have, and I've even rolled a total of three (since-turned level 50) toons specifically for PvP.
I just simply don't enjoy it as much as a good PvE steamrolling team. And I don't want to gimp a character's performance in PvE for PvP viability. Which is why I tend to roll "Hybrid" toons.
That said, the dual-builds idea is an EXCELLENT boost to PvP viability on its own, and I'm looking forward to seeing what Castle has in mind for other PvP power changes in the coming weeks.
Kheldians PvPing? Traditionally PBs are hellishly difficult to kill, but have poor attack strength. Whilst the damage buffs have helped here, I don't think thye've helped THAT much. Still no big ToHit buffs or fast activating spike damage + little in the way of slows, -jumps or ranged mez. The most viable builds I've seen are Human form Blappers built like an EM blaster, or "Nova heavy" snipers. Nova's unaffected, but Human's better now.
My own Human/Dwarf has all four travel powers (SJ and SS from pool powers) and with Dwarfie, Light Form, all the heals and Quantum Flight, he's essentially virtually unkillable in PvP. Unfortunately he still just tickles any toon that isn't trying to go toe-to-toe. I can't see the base damage buff helping THAT much.
And although I hate this type of thing, unfortunately in PvP it really is a case of "lolwarshades"...