My first REAL PVP toon!!! HELP!


Cherry_EU

 

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hey ok so i decided to make a meele pvp toon and to try to acely stick to it so its gonne be most likely a scrapper,tank or brute any ideas? i was thinking with tank ???/em and with brute em/ fire or electric armor and with scrapper i geuse its MA/regen am i right? anyway could ye guys please aleberate on those and give a few new stuff tahts also good and the good and bad parts of those thx!


 

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PvP Suggestions,

Tank - ICE / ENERGY MELEE
Tank - FIRE / SUPER STRENGTH
Tank - WILLPOWER / EM or SS

Scrapper - BROADSWORD / REGENERATION
Scrapper - MARTIAL ARTS / SUPER REFLEXES
Scrapper - SPINES / REGEN

Brute - SUPER STRENGTH / ELECTRICAL ARMOUR
Brute - STONE MELEE / INVULNERABLE
Brute - STONE MELEE / WILLPOWER


Any one of these combo's work very well in pvp...
There are certain things to look for in a pvp toon, here's a wee list of boxes to tick when creating one.

* Single Target Damage
* Self Heal
* Perception
* Concealment
* Fast movement (SS+SJ)
* Mez Protection (Must have in melee)

Tick as many of those boxes as you can and you should have the basis for a good PvP toon.


Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........

 

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why not Em/Electric armor and from what i heard Will power ain all that hot in pvp and why MA/SR and not MA/regen?


 

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Its basically to do with synergy... But it depends on what level you expect to pvp at.

SC - lvl 30
Wb - lvl 38
Rv - Lvl 50 (ithink)


Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........

 

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WP is great as it has amazing regen along with insane HP thats perma instead of having to get enough rech on an invul for perma DP.


 

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hmmmmm but hou does WP do in 1 on 1 pvp?


 

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WP is nice in pvp, you will have res to almost everything, and you get +perc from the armour.
Massive regen wich is nice.
Brute i would go either em/fire or elec, both is pretty nice. fire for the BIG selfheal from the secondary and fiery embrace(extra BU).
Scrapper MA, BS or spines / regen is a nice first pvp toon.
And on tanks we have the uber FoTM ice/em wich is pretty much unkillable in 1 on 1 unless you run in to a good troller or dominator like Spag or something
Or go Fire/em for same reason as brutes, 2 shot squishy´s is fun


 

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im pretty mutch set on making a em tank or brute altho i'd rather make a tank couse im used to heroes but elek armor loooks soo cooool and goood


 

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Its basically to do with synergy...

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If you mean only some sets go with others then you are wrong...

Ok, some sets do give eachother compliments, such as DM with SR, Katana with SR, Fire/Fire Tanks. However, they can all work together pretty much, no set is "only" good when coupled with another.

For level 50 PvP:

Scrappers
Primary:
Most can do pretty well, although Katana is considered very low damage and is purely lethal damage with only minor-control. Martial Arts can be pretty good, but the lack of any range may put you to a halt in many situations. Broadsword and Spines are considered the biggest killers, while Claws isn't used much due to its low burst damage.

Secondaries:
All of them work, although Dark Armour is the undisputed weakest.


Tanks
Primaries:
Depending on what you want, they can all work. Invuln can be alright, especially with Dull Pain, but the lack of any wide stretching resistances is often its main hinderance. Willpower is seen to be exceptionally good against melee. Stone Armour isn't the best unless in Granite - where it is certainly the best at Taunting (group PvP). Fire gives the most damage, with an extra Build-Up like power boosting damage greatly. Ice can be used to great effect, although against certain enemies with an accuracy boosting power (Such as build up or aim) it can go down pretty quick

Secondaries:
Energy and Superstrength are the most used, with Energy having huge burst damage and stuns and Superstrength having Rage (boosting damage greatly while also getting rid of any accuracy issues or defence based enemies). Mace and Axe are both very hard to be played well- along with Ice, and while Stone Melee hits very hard, it also drains a lot of endurance. Fire is very rarely used as it specialises in AoE attacks, more useful for PvE.

Brutes
Primaries:
Similar to Tanks. Elec Melee is pretty low in damage, and is rarely used to good effect. Dark can be good in 1v1s but its lack of any significant boost to damage will make it difficult in a Zonal/Team/Arena situation.

Secondaries:
Similar to Scrappers and Tanks, although Elec Melee does provide a very useful array of effects, such as +recharge, resistance to slow, resistance to end drain, and two endurance boosting powers, not including Powersurge. It's only drawback is the lack of a heal, but that can be fixed by picking up Aid Self.


I didn't mention Dual Blades in PvP, as it hasn't currently been used well in PvP. Ever.

Hope that all helped, and look forwards to seeing you in the zones!


 

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hmmm im thinking of making a tank instead of a scrapper altho i just cant decide couse it realy doesnt look like theres any of the primaries that realy shines out:/


 

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Invuln can be alright, especially with Dull Pain, but the lack of any wide stretching resistances is often its main hinderance.

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Erm what?Invul is a nice set and is insanely hard to kill without debuffer.

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Stone Armour isn't the best unless in Granite - where it is certainly the best at Taunting (group PvP).

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Stone armour is next to useless in PvP.You can taunt with any good PvP tank. I have an ice tank i use for taunting and i havent died during PvP not once while taunting with it.

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Ice can be used to great effect, although against certain enemies with an accuracy boosting power (Such as build up or aim) it can go down pretty quick

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Again.I dont see how u come to the conclusion that Ice dies fast against anything with aim or build up.Ice is top notch for PvP.Slows resistance,ice,fire resistance,hibernate,end drain,slow perma +hp.Unkillable with the exception of fast stacking hold builds and even then really really hard to kill.Dont know how you came up to the "goes down quick" conclusion.


 

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Dont know how you came up to the "goes down quick" conclusion.

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I do. Marwan's mum is an ice tank. AHAHAHAHA


 

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hoe do ye guys think will win in
invul/em tank vs em/electric armor brute
Fire aura/em vs em/electric armor brute
BS/regen scrapper vs em/Electric armor
Ice armor/em vs em/electric armor brute


 

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Dont know how you came up to the "goes down quick" conclusion.

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I do. Marwan's mum is an ice tank. AHAHAHAHA

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Your mum is NPA


 

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Invuln can be alright, especially with Dull Pain, but the lack of any wide stretching resistances is often its main hinderance.

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Erm what?Invul is a nice set and is insanely hard to kill without debuffer.

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Stone Armour isn't the best unless in Granite - where it is certainly the best at Taunting (group PvP).

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Stone armour is next to useless in PvP.You can taunt with any good PvP tank. I have an ice tank i use for taunting and i havent died during PvP not once while taunting with it.

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Ice can be used to great effect, although against certain enemies with an accuracy boosting power (Such as build up or aim) it can go down pretty quick

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Again.I dont see how u come to the conclusion that Ice dies fast against anything with aim or build up.Ice is top notch for PvP.Slows resistance,ice,fire resistance,hibernate,end drain,slow perma +hp.Unkillable with the exception of fast stacking hold builds and even then really really hard to kill.Dont know how you came up to the "goes down quick" conclusion.

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-I never said Invuln isn't good, and its lack of resistance in Energy etc IS its main hinderance, even if it still has huge survivability.

-I know how strong Ice is! I know I've seen you play Hibernoob and definitely impress me, as well as Cypher's Ice/SS, but it can still go down in a 1v1 "no running" situtation... Ice is imo the hardest thing to kill if they can run around Hibernating etc


 

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hoe do ye guys think will win in
invul/em tank vs em/electric armor brute
Fire aura/em vs em/electric armor brute
BS/regen scrapper vs em/Electric armor
Ice armor/em vs em/electric armor brute

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Could someone answer this plz. .


 

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1. Brute
2. Tank
3. Draw?
4. Draw


 

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lol ok anyway im gonne make a fire/em tank and i was wondering should i take medecine or Fighting or somit ells?


 

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invul/em tank vs em/electric armor brute, Brute wins because of Energy res
Fire aura/em vs em/electric armor brute, Brute wins because of energy res
BS/regen scrapper vs em/Electric armor, draw
Ice armor/em vs em/electric armor brute, Brute or Draw(Ice Armor just needs to hibernoob :P)


 

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lol ok anyway im gonne make a fire/em tank and i was wondering should i take medecine or Fighting or somit ells?

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Go leadership so you have perception and vengeance :P as well as taunt resistance. Or you could go presence for the fear.


 

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lol medicine on a fire tank


thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor

 

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lolz is it even posseble to kill a elec armor brute with em?


 

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No, IF you manage to stun them they can go down, Just slot alot of rech on your EM attacks and you might win 1, but fighting elec armour brute´s with EM is almost like trying to kill a icetank with only ICE blasts tbh.

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lolz is it even posseble to kill a elec armor brute with em?

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Actually, isnt a Ice/Energy blast vs Ice Energy tank a easier match for the blaster comparing to a Energy/Energy blast vs Energy/Elec Brute ?
(See, Ice Tanks don't resist smashing which Ice actually happens to have in their attacks as well)
Maybe the Ice blaster does have a chance if the ice tank doesnt have hoarfrost up fast enough and isnt fast enough to click hibernoob :O?