Is vines important??
I have found it useful enough. I would say it is more of a situational power which is skip able (but I find nice to have). It has a fairly long recharge on it so I tend to use it more in emergency's such as another group has been aggro'd or an ambush.
Its not a bad power by any means but like you said you have other control powers at your disposal. What other powers would you consider of taking instead?
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Well, let me give my opinion.
All this kind of powers (I mean AoE Holds powers) are more a panic button than an offensive power, and when I press it, I like it working. Do u have another panic button?? Do u mind to dont have a panic button?? I dont mind to die, that fills my fun bar (yeah the dark brown one, over the xp).
More things to think: ur secondary dont have PowerBoost. I use to take out these kind of powers if I dont have PB to support it, I dont need a big mob hold for 15 secs and then all turning to me angry... If u can kill them before the 15-20secs, then go for it, but usually isnt time enough, even for permadoomers (wow, what a nice name...)
IMHO, plants/ have more than enough control with seeds, carrion, the pet and a big +recharge
Could we know what u want to get in ur build instead vines?? Maybe we can discuss what is more interesting for you, and give u best feedback.
Cheers.
So what would you recommend vines or spore burst or neither??
could a high lvl post up a build?
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So what would you recommend vines or spore burst or neither??
could a high lvl post up a build?
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Spore Burst is a Sleeper, it can be nice. But as with most mass-Sleeps it just gets negated by any damage.
Most PANIC! happen when you're in a group and you aggro more than your worth, likely to have a lot of AoEs flying around, makes it a bit pointless.
My main dom tends to use Cinders situationally, generally spamming Flashfire and Char around and does well without Cinders up every four mobs let alone every mob.
With my Plants/Ice I'd see myself working Creepers/Seeds/ST Hold more with PB so Vines seems even less likely.
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might get vines then spec it out when creepers becomes available..having a lot of trouble with my build at the moment dosnt help this is my first dom, keep thinking like a troller
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So what would you recommend vines or spore burst or neither??
could a high lvl post up a build?
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I choose vines over sleep just because I would find the hold more useful. Most people will wake up your mob from being slept with AoE's and the like. The sleep has a much faster recharge time but is easily skipable (although I have it on mine which I use for Recluse Strike Force and PvP).
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vines >> spore burst...
If that is the doubt, keep vines.
Personally, I would go to other power, but if u have to choose between these 2, go for vines.
Cheers.
Also, teenies and twenties are hard for doms, they start pwnin at high lvls...
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well if i didn't get vines i would probally go for weave of some sort of defencive/resistance power to increase my live-longity
Defence?? Bah, sod that. I played mine to 50 mainly as a troller (back in the old days when Doms were rubbish) so vines was a very handy extra mag when trying to hold bosses. Any mobs that were less than didn't have bosses just got a healthy dose of seeds.
Domination-->creepers-->seeds-->firey embrace-->fire breath-->makos cone damage power-->consume pretty much finishes a large mob and leaves you looking pretty.
With little or nothing else defensively to stack with, a defensive choice like Weave might not give a great surviveability payoff.
Vines has a worthwhile place. Even if you don't choose it however there's still better mitigation powers in the primary that could work better than Weave.
Well as the question says is vines important but before you rush in with a definate yes or no, read the What before answering the Why.
Well basically, i want to know weather vines is worth keeping.
I have a plant/fire dominator so i can kill stuff pretty quick dom style, and instead of holds i normally use my confuse.
So my question is...
if i have a dom in which i have never really used vines in a serious situation, and dont generally need it shal i skip it for a different power or keep it just incase.
this is a pretty big descision because i only have 1 respec and cant afford to buy one for the BM.
thanx for the help in advance.