What are the Devs thinking here??


DarkAbZ

 

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ok so i spend some time on the testserver, cheking out WP.
and....erm....a REGEN Tank??? REALLY???? with Fear-KB-Psi-andYaFrickingNameitRez, i mean who doesnt want this???? Am i the only 1 who sees a problem here? oh yea i allmost forgot with +percep too
Imo we aint talking fotm here but FoPvP, as if PvP zones isnt filled with powerfull Tanks-Scraps-Brutes and Stalkers as is. I just think this is gonna be THE power to get, and WOOOHOOO whoever wins is decided in the slots each person puts in, cause thats what happens when we fricking all got the same powers
Some thoughts about this, and some1 plzzzz prove me wrong, set me in my place or ANYTHING, cause this is, to say the leest, annoying and frustrating, cause i love pvp and the diff AT's fighting in it


 

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You do realise that the regen power won't work in PVP right? You need multiple mobs around you to get any decent result from it. Also, it doesn't have an uninterruptable self heal. It's not gonna be as uber as you think


 

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No Self heal.
No Energy, Negative, Cold or Fire Resistance to speak of.
No Immobilisation Protection (CJ can easily be stacked over).

No Point bringing it into non-teamed PvP. At least on a non-Stalker...


 

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PHEW, ok thx guys, was a little fast on the tricker there


 

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It's a great PvE set, in PvP though, the lack of decent Immob Res will mean it's not that awesome.

(I'd mention the no self heal option, but hey - Aid Self with that much HP is dumb).


 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems, i think this might just be good for pvp after all. And the no Fire Neg etc res aint a problem in my eyes, my DM/regen aint got that now, but can still pound em Corrs, MM's and Doms pretty good, meh will just have to see i guess


 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems, i think this might just be good for pvp after all. And the no Fire Neg etc res aint a problem in my eyes, my DM/regen aint got that now, but can still pound em Corrs, MM's and Doms pretty good, meh will just have to see i guess

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A good Controller will beat a WP tank.

A good Blaster should beat a WP tank.

A good MM should beat a WP tank.

A good Dominator should beat a WP tank.

a good Brute should (theoretically - Fury bug etc...) beat a WP tank.


My opinion of WP in PvP hasn't changed.


 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems


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My question is what were the Devs thinking there?

If they can just easily fix the "no immob" on Willpower, why can't they do the same for Knockback on Dark Armor, Fire Armor and Ninjitsu? And the same for Fire Armor with Immob? Willpower sounds pretty good, like Dark Armor, yet WP gets its issues fixed and DA doesn't? I'd love to use to DA... but the only reason I wont play it is because of the no KB res and if I do take Acrobatics, it is usually pretty late in the game. Same goes for Fire Armor and Ninjitsu. Can we expect to see those Armors/Shields fixed too?


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A not utterly bad Controller will beat a WP tank.

90% of pvp Blasters (who are fire, energy or ice) should butcher a WP tank.

A not utterly bad MM should beat a WP tank.

A not utterly bad Dominator should beat a WP tank.

90% of pvp Brutes and Tanks (who are energy/*) should butcher a WP tank


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It's better like that, I think...

I think that wp (really good against smash/letal and psy, really bad against the rest) will be one of the worse armors in pvp (kingdom of energy, fire and ice). Maybe it could be interesting against Defs /psy and Scrappers (who deal mainly smash/letal), but against all the others...


 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems, i think this might just be good for pvp after all. And the no Fire Neg etc res aint a problem in my eyes, my DM/regen aint got that now, but can still pound em Corrs, MM's and Doms pretty good, meh will just have to see i guess

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A good Controller will beat a WP tank.

A good Blaster should beat a WP tank.

A good MM should beat a WP tank.

A good Dominator should beat a WP tank.

a good Brute should (theoretically - Fury bug etc...) beat a WP tank.


My opinion of WP in PvP hasn't changed.

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Buff wp


thePhilosopher Martial Arts/Regen/Fire Scrapper
theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor

 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems, i think this might just be good for pvp after all. And the no Fire Neg etc res aint a problem in my eyes, my DM/regen aint got that now, but can still pound em Corrs, MM's and Doms pretty good, meh will just have to see i guess

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A good Controller will beat a WP tank.

A good Blaster should beat a WP tank.

A good MM should beat a WP tank.

A good Dominator should beat a WP tank.

a good Brute should (theoretically - Fury bug etc...) beat a WP tank.


My opinion of WP in PvP hasn't changed.

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Buff wp

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Well Castle's said SoW'll probably be buffed eventually. :P


 

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the Devs just fixed the "no immo" issue it seems


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My question is what were the Devs thinking there?

If they can just easily fix the "no immob" on Willpower, why can't they do the same for Knockback on Dark Armor, Fire Armor and Ninjitsu? And the same for Fire Armor with Immob? Willpower sounds pretty good, like Dark Armor, yet WP gets its issues fixed and DA doesn't? I'd love to use to DA... but the only reason I wont play it is because of the no KB res and if I do take Acrobatics, it is usually pretty late in the game. Same goes for Fire Armor and Ninjitsu. Can we expect to see those Armors/Shields fixed too?

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"Fix". huh.

Some of these sets are SUPPOSED to have some sort of hole in their defense. Otherwaise theyd all be the same and that would be pointless.


 

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I dunno - you've already got holes in terms of Defense or Resistance gaps to certain damage types.

Thinks like Immob or KB prot are just annoying - and while you can get a KB Resist IO now, they don't work too good in PvP.


 

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Oh but they do!! I love fighting guys with them on my bubbler


 

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I've been checking WP on the provisional figures from Mid's Hero Designer, you can get decent defense figures to cover the holes in resistance, the major WP hole is toxic damage, so I guess Spines Stalkers and Thorn Dominators should give any WP toon a hard time.-


 

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Not really, the Toxic component's tiny.


 

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I've been checking WP on the provisional figures from Mid's Hero Designer, you can get decent defense figures to cover the holes in resistance, the major WP hole is toxic damage, so I guess Spines Stalkers and Thorn Dominators should give any WP toon a hard time.-

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Spines doesnt give anyone a hard time in terms of toxic component only... Its practically all lethal.


 

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I've been checking WP on the provisional figures from Mid's Hero Designer, you can get decent defense figures to cover the holes in resistance, the major WP hole is toxic damage, so I guess Spines Stalkers and Thorn Dominators should give any WP toon a hard time.


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Defense is mostly weak in pvp, and wp have the lowest defensive shields among the melee ats (except maybe invul, which is a resistance set). Anybody with a decent build (good precision in the attacks, and good precision from bonus set) will passe them easily.


 

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umm no offence but if you were thinking willpower is overpowered im thinking you need to fight a stalker over level 6 :P there the entire reason i dont pvp because no matter what class you choose you dont stand a chance against one same level, yes ive tried all the +perception stuff and unless there lower level it just doesnt work


 

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umm no offence but if you were thinking willpower is overpowered im thinking you need to fight a stalker over level 6 :P there the entire reason i dont pvp because no matter what class you choose you dont stand a chance against one same level, yes ive tried all the +perception stuff and unless there lower level it just doesnt work


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The last time I fought a stalker 50 with my stoney, I simply crush him (something like 5-0). Without granite. So it's possible, at least when you have +percep in your secondary (stone, dark, and now wp). He didn't have stealth io, I think, however.