Ice/Rad good for solo play ?


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Because of my late night play most of my toons have to go solo, (its hard finding a team at 3 in the morning lol) i allready have 4 brutes and 3 mm's, but now i want to make a couple of corrupters, allready decided on a fire/dark, but need another, so is ice/rad a viable solo toon ? or is there something better ?

Many thanks
Twisted


 

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It's very good for solo play since both sets offer quite a bit of control and good single-target damage along with self-buffs. Should do great in teams too .


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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Ice/Rad should be wery nice solo, generally anything Ice/ is. Got a Ice/Cold and i solo with him on relentless rather easy theese day, but Ice/Cold is a much slower starter than Ice/Rad.

For solo: Get all three single target blast and both holds. Bitter Freeze ray is skippable team-wice but great solo, despite its animation time. All other powers are not must and pick and choose as you feel, altho i would not skip blizzard just for the fun of it.


 

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Because of my late night play most of my toons have to go solo, (its hard finding a team at 3 in the morning lol) i allready have 4 brutes and 3 mm's, but now i want to make a couple of corrupters, allready decided on a fire/dark, but need another, so is ice/rad a viable solo toon ? or is there something better ?

Many thanks
Twisted

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Ok . . . Quoting with a few of my oppinion's.

Ice/Rad is ok to solo but as a Corr/Healer you are best in a team because you dont have much Dmg to start off so you need a team for Dmg &amp; you concerntrate on healing Buffing/Radiation.

Generally anything Ice/Fire/Rad is Good.
Got a Ice/Rad and i solo with her on relentless rather easy these day's also good @ PvP. (PvE 5+ Man team).

But i aso have Fire/Cold but is a much slower starter than Ice/Rad in lo wlevel's allways team if you can.

I have a Coupl eof Fire/Ice/Rad build that might help you all depends on what you settle with .

If you need it PM me or post a topic on the exact build you need .
For solo: Get all three single target blast and both holds.

But it also depends on what build you settle with Exapmle :-

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Bitter Freeze ray is skippable team-wice but great solo, despite its animation time.
All other powers are not must and pick and choose as you feel, altho i would not skip blizzard just for the fun of it &amp; it's very handy later with Monerate Dmg over time &amp; Slow Mob's.

What ever Attack you settle for Skip the 1st 1, unless you take it &amp; respec later, but not taking it will save a respec for a power thats not high Dmg.

Whateven Secondary you Pick, remember you are a healer so you will heed all Heal/Sheild/Buff/Raz Power's, keep the team alive you wont need to kill.

PS -&gt; Only take 1st 3 attack's untill you get you travel power @ lvl 14 IMO !

I Hope any of this helps you in any way?
GOOD LUCK.


 

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Ice Blast with anything on a corruptor is fine for soloing, the single target damage is good, and Freeze Ray is an excellent hold, so with the debuff available in the rad secondary you should have no problems at all.

The AOE damage is actually not bad on ice at all either, but ideally you want someone grouping and then locking the mobs down either with slows, holds or immobilises to get the most out the AOEs. If you mostly solo, they may be less use to you, unless you want to slot both Ice Storm and Lingering Radiation heavily for slows.


 

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Just 1 idea, dont get me wrong...

If u usually play solo, and u dont want to play a brute and a MM, why dont u play a Dominator??

Domis are nice soloers, believe me, have lot of experience with Doms. In fact, i think i can have a faster xp rate in my dominator than in my other toons (21 months playin CoV, im a bit Altitis, u kno...)

I wouldnt recommend u to play a corruptor coz in late game u will get [censored] off with so much stuns, and no mez protection soloing... Otherwise, doms have mezz protection when they are under domination, much easier to play.

Think bout it.

Peace.

PS: if u want a build advice, send me a msg, i would be gladly to give u a solid build for any prim/sec dominator.


 

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I wouldnt recommend u to play a corruptor coz in late game u will get [censored] off with so much stuns, and no mez protection soloing...

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I've only played one corr at high level (fire/dark) but he was very easy to solo (although better in teams with larger spwans ). Dark and Rad offer lots of tools to mitigate damage, so with a few BFs you'll be fine (AM also gives a bit of mez resistance for Rads). Other secondaries like Sonic or Traps have some form of (self) mez protection. Doms are fine for soloing after pets, but a bit slower than most corrs before then imo.


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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Well, it is ur opinion, i only can say i respect it

IMHO, the real problem becomes at lvls 35 or above, and on that lvls is where dominators shine and corrs start to face heavy mezzes...

Ive got an ice/kin lvl46 who i always play in teams, and it is very team oriented... Soloing is a bit frustrating... Retoggling after mezzes is just annoying

But, as i said, i see ur point. BTW, AM offers resists, no protections, so u will be detoggled...


 

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And likewise I respect yours .

My point was that mezzes are not necessarily a huge problem for all solo corrs, even at higher levels. Kin doesn't have many options for damage mitigation (or preventing mezzes) since you basically have to arrest things quickly before they get to you (ok, you also reduce their damage). For other sets like dark and rad, ThT debuffs make a huge difference (or mez protection for some sets like I mentioned before). But since my highest dom is only 32, I look forward to a mezz-less future!


CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

 

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I find status effects are little problem when soloing. Particularly not with ice primary where you don't even need to carry many break frees, given how good Freeze Ray is. It's only really against Carnie or Malta that I need more than a couple a mission - I normally take six into Carnie and Malta missions, although rarely use more than three or four, better too many than too few generally.

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Corruptor sets that I think are most geared to soloing:

The best soloing corruptor primaries are probably Ice and Sonic. Both offer solid single target damage and a "status effect" power (a hold for ice, a stun for sonic). Ice is quicker animating, but sonic has a much more noticable secondary effect. Fire is also very good damage, but lacks any sort of damage mitigation which may be a pain at higher level. Energy has reasonable ST damage but again, no real "damage mitigation" unless you count knockback, which may cause more problems that it actually solves with a lot of secondaries.

The best soloing secondaries would probably be Rad and Dark, as almost all the powers you take will be of benefit to you as well as a team, although Kinetic is also pretty good for fast paced play, and less toggles to get knocked off if you do get stunned or held etc. At higher level Cold is also very good, but at lower level probably not the best - the shields are obviously no use to you while soloing.

My Ice/Thermal is level 50. She's great fun, definitely one of my all time favourite characters and I've made far too many. Although I mainly team in CoV the character can and does solo quickly, reasonably safely, and always on relentless. This is with Thermal secondary, which of the nine powers that are available (I took eight - all except the res), has only three that you can use in solo play. Despite that she solos pretty well, simply because of how good the ice primary is.

G'wan, make an Ice Corruptor, they're fun.


 

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Well, it is ur opinion, i only can say i respect it

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And likewise I respect yours .

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respecting peoples opinions on forums?! what is wrong with you two?!

i dont have any experience with /rad but i do with the ice/ part and i extremely dislike BFR, really, sure the animation is cool blah blah blah good opener etc etc, it just seems to me not needed in any build, you wont be able to use it midbattle (well you could but you wont be able to do anything else whilst the animation is going on, including heal yourself or run), but try it for yourself and see, you can always respec out of it if you dislike it,

id also add, that you should get the tier 1 attack (going against what some others have said) as stacking the slows and -rech is pretty handy and it has a quick animation time. ice bolt, ice blast and bitter ice blast, is quite a nice attack chain for solo PvE,

another power which i dislike is frost breath, ive never been fond of it the cone just doesnt seem to be big enough to be of use. (30' according to mids hero designer)

all of the above is in my opinion and i respect the opinions of others

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Whateven Secondary you Pick, remember you are a healer so you will heed all Heal/Sheild/Buff/Raz Power's, keep the team alive you wont need to kill.

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woah woah woah, he is a corruptor, and hes going to be playing solo as he plays late at night, and you can hardly call the corruptor secondarys "healer" the closest is thermal and that has other things to it.


 

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Frostbreath is one of those powers which is great damage, if you have someone to herd for you (with rad secondary you could actually do it yourself using Radiation Infection), if they're not being grouped, it's really never seemed worth it to me, as you rarely hit more than one or two.


 

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Well, it is ur opinion, i only can say i respect it

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And likewise I respect yours .

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respecting peoples opinions on forums?! what is wrong with you two?!


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Yeah, insane!

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i dont have any experience with /rad but i do with the ice/ part and i extremely dislike BFR, really, sure the animation is cool blah blah blah good opener etc etc, it just seems to me not needed in any build, you wont be able to use it midbattle (well you could but you wont be able to do anything else whilst the animation is going on, including heal yourself or run), but try it for yourself and see, you can always respec out of it if you dislike it,


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Out of curiosity, have you tried it after they lowered the cast time? It made a huge difference in how i felt about it and how i use it. Freezing a boss or two normal mobs from the start is pretty handy.

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id also add, that you should get the tier 1 attack (going against what some others have said) as stacking the slows and -rech is pretty handy and it has a quick animation time. ice bolt, ice blast and bitter ice blast, is quite a nice attack chain for solo PvE,


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Totally agree, i love using all three blasts and would feel week without one of them. Loads of damage comes from them.


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Whateven Secondary you Pick, remember you are a healer so you will heed all Heal/Sheild/Buff/Raz Power's, keep the team alive you wont need to kill.

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woah woah woah, he is a corruptor, and hes going to be playing solo as he plays late at night, and you can hardly call the corruptor secondarys "healer" the closest is thermal and that has other things to it.

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Yep yep, when i join a team and get "heal Plz" i just pick up and leave.


 

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Out of curiosity, have you tried it after they lowered the cast time? It made a huge difference in how i felt about it and how i use it. Freezing a boss or two normal mobs from the start is pretty handy.

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i did try it on test for a little bit after it was changed, it is alot better i agree, although i still think FR&gt;BFR in everyway, although that was on my Blaster, and not my ice/ corruptor, i can see how it would be more useful on a corruptor to have both (my blasters got freezing touch which is ALOT better but sadly corr's dont get that ) i shall have to try it on my corruptor, i got mixed up between the two in the earlier post.


 

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Thanks for all the advice guys, heres my first stab at a solo build, not to sure about the patron powers though as i have never used/seen them, just thought sharks sounded kinda cool lol, anyway hows this for a first attempt ? will add slots later

Many thanks
Twisted


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Name: N/A
Level: 50
Archetype: Corruptor
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Radiation Emission
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01 =&gt; Radiant Aura ==&gt; Empty(1)
01 =&gt; Ice Bolt ==&gt; Empty(1)
02 =&gt; Ice Blast ==&gt; Empty(2)
04 =&gt; Accelerate Metabolism ==&gt; Empty(4)
06 =&gt; Radiation Infection ==&gt; Empty(6)
08 =&gt; Combat Jumping ==&gt; Empty(8)
10 =&gt; Freeze Ray ==&gt; Empty(10)
12 =&gt; Enervating Field ==&gt; Empty(12)
14 =&gt; Super Jump ==&gt; Empty(14)
16 =&gt; Ice Storm ==&gt; Empty(16)
18 =&gt; Bitter Ice Blast ==&gt; Empty(18)
20 =&gt; Swift ==&gt; Empty(20)
22 =&gt; Health ==&gt; Empty(22)
24 =&gt; Stamina ==&gt; Empty(24)
26 =&gt; Bitter Freeze Ray ==&gt; Empty(26)
28 =&gt; Lingering Radiation ==&gt; Empty(28)
30 =&gt; Acrobatics ==&gt; Empty(30)
32 =&gt; Blizzard ==&gt; Empty(32)
35 =&gt; Hasten ==&gt; Empty(35)
38 =&gt; EM Pulse ==&gt; Empty(38)
41 =&gt; School of Sharks ==&gt; Empty(41)
44 =&gt; Shark Skin ==&gt; Empty(44)
47 =&gt; Spirit Shark Jaws ==&gt; Empty(47)
49 =&gt; Summon Coralax ==&gt; Empty(49)
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01 =&gt; Sprint ==&gt; Empty(1)
01 =&gt; Brawl ==&gt; Empty(1)
02 =&gt; Rest ==&gt; Empty(1)


 

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Build doesn't look bad, but aq few hints:

-Take stam asap at lvl 20 and for this push EF to 22 and ice storm till after that, because ice blast is endheavy and so are your toggles, especially EF. Besides you won't have enough slots to slot all those powers properly at that early a time anyway.
-Swap BFR and hasten around, or even skip BFR altogether.
-acro can be substituted by a KB prot IO and free up another power.
Personally I'd take Black Scorpion patron instead of Mako. Much more use to you for stacking more -rech and slows and the +def shield goes better with RI then the +res shield from Mako too

Enjoy!