Two spine/ninja (just because I like ninja and it has perception) stalkers GI'ing each other until they get those stealth IO's. You could fire 2 built up impales from outside the hero's visibility range. Never seen this idea through to the end due to altitis but I'd be willing to give it another shot.
Edit: Could use this with a strategy stalkobot mentioned yonkers ago. He described 2 stalkers who would torpedo the heroes while switching travel powers. That way the stalker could get out of sight by the time the attack landed. Was something like that anyway.
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Fiend Space: 211464
Possibly a fire/anything dominator for Smoke? The dom would have to be willing to take a dive, but the -perception could help the stalkers get in close. The dom could even pick up Grant Invisibility so the stalkers don't have to. If (yeah, I know, unlikely 
) the dom survives they could even try holding a blaster or two to make the stalkers' lives easier.
Note that I have never tried Smoke out, so may not be *that* useful - hopefully someone else who has can comment.
lol seeable just go buy your self a stealth io to stack with stealth and hide. And wait till the blasters uses something rooting then gank him very very fast. Don't open with TF as an empath I can see it hitting 3,5 seks before taking damage which makes it way easy to heal. AS I'm very used to empathing it's very good to give the empath a bit of chasing so he gets distracted and runs while your other friends get the blaster.
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Ype theres a fair few tactics to dodge the so 'called' stalker hunters - I will say that stalker hunter builds are tough to play against but I think there alos lots and lots of fun. In regards the the above idea stalk had a great one on the go there and we duo'd up a fair few times in SC for this.
It's a speed style stalker - Simply put some times my stalker can land a heavy hitting crit attack and never be seen - if timmed well you can get both attacks to land almost similtanious as you super speed past the target. The animation will take place a long way from the atarget and the burst damage will drop them if your quick enough even vs a good blaster/emp combo.
I've had a few comments on doing this thing especially in WB with a triple critting EC yet the animation played when I was a good 100 yards from the target and dropped a brute from 3/4 HP 
To stop a good old blaster/emp combo I was very succsful with a stalker duo where we ignored the defender and just played the balster in SC. Using Placiate just as the blaster hit's aim+BU tends to kill there fun there and then - leave it a few seconds then re-ingage. We also kept changing his targets by dashing round buildings while another stalker engaged the blaster.
I think after a good hour+ it ended up a great innings by the two of us even when we were facing two Blaster/Emp teams. Keeping the blaster at bay and single massive spike damage bursts is the key to them and palciate the best tool. Playing a stalker where you can be seen in PvP really enhances knowing how to use them. I'd advise you to simply going to zones with only hide on and trying to fight your way past opponents that can see you and timing placiate to hinder opponenets attack chains 
Ps - this is just my view of course - stalker killers - meh imo it's a big target on there head to go hunt them why have an easy kill when u can clobber some St4k4r hunter!1!1!!
Two stalkers with grant invis (or stealth IO+stealth) and ranged attacks can double-spike most squishies easy.
Theres a ton of other options if it doesnt have to be stalker.
i am sorry to burst the bubble here but is not so easy as it sounds. First of all due to IO's with increased HP's and all is not that easy to double spike and kill such blasters any more and if a fender is following is even more hard.
The placate technique works only up to SC cause after that personally speaking only ofc i kill placating stalkers in WB and up for fun when they placate to teach them its a wrong thing to do to a blaster that has his nova working in the zone.
As for the run and spike technique is good IF we are talking SR/Nin sets that can actually see the blaster since all experienced pvp blasters atm have ghetto invis.
Not to mention that in zones like WB and up most of us have full sets working that make it even more difficult.
Finally is nearly impossible to run spike such blasters because simply no good blaster will be sittting in the same spot allowing both of you to make a successful pass at the same time.
Top all these things with fortitude and increased perceptions and some experience and i would say chances of stakers against such builds are not as good as they look and all you can do is hope for some mistake from the blaster or just do the usual thing and attack while he is attacking someone else.
I do agree with TG that WB + is touhger for spiking i think SC is a good spiking zone out of all i've played in really. I use MA/SR for spiking, quick animation ok damage.
Also I think that spiking is still valuable in Zonal PvP - alot of the time it can be combined in villian teams to hammer the stalker hunters - but vs a blaster/emp combo I'd stick with spiking all the time if your on a stalker.
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Also I think that spiking is still valuable in Zonal PvP - alot of the time it can be combined in villian teams to hammer the stalker hunters - but vs a blaster/emp combo I'd stick with spiking all the time if your on a stalker
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This yes. Spiking is still no 1 around here. Just needs good coordination and people to be explained how it works.
Well was messing around in SC last night (only go there when I dont feel likel lvling) an was having a blast till Greek turned up with his emp to CM him. Im not an experienced pvper at all, and found that when i could be just close enough to be able to see him, he could just whack me with his blasts and ide have a fried stalker cooking on the concrete. I dont have stealth to go along with my io, so that doesnt, help, but still, kinda took all the fun out of it when it wasnt just a case of they could see me up close, but could just float around in the sky and blow everyone to hell.
And before you start, no im not complaining about team pvp, or being a stalker, im just saying that it took the fun out of it.
So someone, please help me with how to coordinate spike attacks, sounds fun!
Ok here is how:
first of all you need to work some binds:
/bind 1 "team [ATTACKING] $target"
you can replace 1 with any button you feel like binding.also you can replace the ATTACKING with ASing or any other word you feel comfortable with.
This bind is the first step to spiking. This notifies your team who you will be attacking.
Step 2:
Target calling. In a team of 3-4 stalkers not all start spamming the bind and attack various targets. You assign a target caller and once he calls a target you need to acquire the same target then press your bind to notify that you have the same target so the target caller knows that all spike the same thing. If all this goes well you will be doing some proper spiking
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As far as i recall it was 5-6 stalkers 2 MM and 1 brute and a corruptor tping people right outside hero base. when i came in someone accused me of using insps because i was glowing purple (which was the cm) and after the buffs run out and i dueled him and blew him to pieces he start moan that i was still buffed...which i wasnt since all glows were gone 
anyway hope this helps you but remember that is nice to be a stalker and have fun ASing people but is also fun to blow stalkers away and kill them
Well thanks for the info greek, and ive seen this tactic used before, just not known what it was called.
And in SC that night, there werwe 3/4 stalkers on my team with an MM, corr and a brute, and there was another team with an MM and a stalker or two, though we didnt know them. Also, most of the MM tping from base was a lot of jesting, as it was a lot about ppl sucking up to Vato (Vato FTW hehe, stupid mexican zombie). Also in that kind of thing, i was mostly just watching, not often a huge fun of ganking maliciously, i think i used brawl more often than not. And im sure it is fun to blow us stalkers away. Sadly though, when it gets to the point that I'm not able to have any more fun in the zone, I just leave, mostly to save frustration. And the duel thing was kinda silly really. No insps but non self buffs allowed? meh, wasnt my fight. When it comes to th
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Actually the stalker wanted a duel claiming he would beat me (nin/nin) and i told him wait for buffs to end as i had 1 fort on me nearly running out and was blinking. At the moment fort ran out he decided to go ahead and sneakily attack me, landed an AS and on the jump circle i popped aim+BU and smoked him. Then he called me cheater again and left the zone
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Didnt blame you of anything. But its really funny when i arrived in the zone people started making remarks about an empath coming along.
People need to realise that in zones we play to our opponents weaknesses and so on. It was 1 blaster 1 empath against 8-10 people when i entered. and people moan for a 10vs2 analogy? 2-3 people attacking me at same time could have done the job. No need to moan is all good fun,dying or killing.
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Actually the stalker wanted a duel claiming he would beat me (nin/nin) and i told him wait for buffs to end as i had 1 fort on me nearly running out and was blinking. At the moment fort ran out he decided to go ahead and sneakily attack me, landed an AS and on the jump circle i popped aim+BU and smoked him. Then he called me cheater again and left the zone
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I keep hearing that theres more drama on union pvp zones. I guess it must be so. I'm hoping for server transfer come along quick so we could all be on same server.
Lol hammerfall. Yeh, SC is a great place for drama, like one random sunday night where the calls went out across coalitions of all players and there just randomly got collections of about 20+ on each side and a great time was had by all.
Well Greek, i guess its time to leave it alone. Im still very much learning when it comes to zones. One of the things is learning to tell the difference between when someone is just outright being malicious and picking on you (happend to me often) and when its good natured. Generally I find those that talk a lot without flaming, are the fun ones. Also, it was hardly 10v2, esp as the MM was mainly focusing on one particular blaster. And I seem to remember having at least 5 on me at one point, so it does go both ways at the end of the day. Anyway, didnt I say it was time to drop this? Doh. Well, see you in there again im sure!
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Well sometimes can be really fun but sometimes due to the increased activity can be frustrating.
One thing in particular that i remembered while talking to Raz is that Union zones are far more fast paced. Mainly due to increased activity and the amount of players that surround you in the zone while pvping.
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calls went out across coalitions of all players and there just randomly got collections of about 20+ on each side and a great time was had by all.
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That night was definitely awsome!!
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Well, see you in there again im sure!
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Definitely! If you need any more help with target calling or anything like this feel free contact me. Always happy to help even if it means getting killed myself
Aye it was an awesome night. And one day ile finally decide on my respec pvp build. Till then, im sure my [censored] will be on fire from your fireballs regularly
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im sure my [censored] will be on fire from your fireballs regularly
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This just doesnt sound right at all 
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
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im sure my [censored] will be on fire from your fireballs regularly
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This just doesnt sound right at all
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ROFLMF(laming)AO
I find that this works....
NRG / NIN
TP stalker....
Choose your target,
Buildup + TP
Hit Assassin strike as u dissapear, you will
emerge in the stiking posistion...
Your secondary should let u evade an attack if your are spotted in time.. as the TP is instant the blaster would have to be very quick off the mark to stop you.
Plus the hover from tp will negate any caltrops.
AS + ET and TP outta there as fast as u went in...
Make sure u have Invisibility + Stealth IO for ultimate hiding ability before and after, no need for placate...
TP is a stalkers best friend i wouldnt make one now without it.
Good luck
Carlsberg don't do Farming,
But if they did..........
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Make sure u have Invisibility + Stealth IO for ultimate hiding ability before and after, no need for placate...
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Hide+Stealth+Stealth IO takes you to the stealth cap. No need for invis too unless you are using it to pick up Phase Shift.
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No AT can solo a proper stalker these days, and a whole team would have a hard time trying to, also. And trying to attack the juiced blaster kinda dumb, always aim for the empath that's backing them up
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No AT can solo a proper stalker these days, and a whole team would have a hard time trying to, also. And trying to attack the juiced blaster kinda dumb, always aim for the empath that's backing them up
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Stalkers get farmed in pvp, where teams are concerned.
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No AT can solo a proper stalker these days, and a whole team would have a hard time trying to, also. And trying to attack the juiced blaster kinda dumb, always aim for the empath that's backing them up
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Good luck trying to kill a decent empath.
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No AT can solo a proper stalker these days, and a whole team would have a hard time trying to, also. And trying to attack the juiced blaster kinda dumb, always aim for the empath that's backing them up
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I solo stalkers for fun in WB with my blaster
After having my [censored] repeatedly handed to me and the various other stalkers on my team in SC the other day by a whole team of blasters with their own defenders and the odd illu/storm troller, i got to thinking.
There are ATs out there that dedicate themselves to hunting stalkers, quite an honour as when have you ever seen threads about Brute-killers or MM-destroyers. We have the rare honour of being an AT that gets hunted for sport over other ATs. So what do you do to get around these incredibly annoying blasters with their nice friendly defenders. Soloing them is usually impossible, especially when the defender is often barely touchable and the blaster can spot you a way before you get anywhere close. What tricks do you use? Tp foe? Also, what primaries and secondaries work best against these evil hunters. Spines with impale is a flying defenders nightmare im sure, and EMs huge toggle dropping ability i bet helps, and /EAs repel resistance helps with those /storm trollers.
I just would like to know how people get around these hunters, or what other forms of AT would be good at targetting them specifically? (atm thinking EM/ Brute would do nicely)
So any thoughts?