Fitness:Health + regen?


Aurrius

 

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Heard conflicting statements on wether health is good for a regen scrapper or not.


 

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I would say yes ... gotta be 3 slotted though all heal IO's it gives u a better chance of suvival for a squishy 2ndary set ... Regen does have its uses and can save u a lot but dont rely on it too heavily ... I would get botm Health and Stam ... These two are needed when u get to the high 30's and onwards. Becoz of the nasty critters found in Perry Island


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If you have slotted fast healing and integration running, you have about +400% regen, single slotted health is 53% ish and 3 slotted health is 75% ish. Time from 1 health to full is 48 secs without 3 slot health and 42 seconds with it. So, is it useful, yes... but you may be able to find something even more useful to enhance your survivability, be it damage resistance (resilience/tough) or some control (epic holds / primary stuns, whatever).

I respecced out of health on Felicia and haven't noticed a problem yet. Your experience may differ of course

hth

Bob


 

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Heard conflicting statements on wether health is good for a regen scrapper or not.

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I have it on my regen scrapper, I would say yes. At least it gives better +regen than a hefty bunch of set IO bonuses..


 

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I would say yes ... gotta be 3 slotted though all heal IO's it gives u a better chance of suvival for a squishy 2ndary set ... Regen does have its uses and can save u a lot but dont rely on it too heavily ... I would get botm Health and Stam ... These two are needed when u get to the high 30's and onwards. Becoz of the nasty critters found in Perry Island

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Regen? A squishy secondary? I've never heard that one before! Regen is arguably the strongest set for soloing, and it's still pretty good in teams as well.

Health is useful but by no means essential - I usually get it as a prerequisite to Stamina (although with the amount of end reduction you can get by slotting attacks with IO sets I'm considering respeccing it out...the question is what to take instead).


 

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If you have space for it in your build it's probably useful. Personally my Kat/Regen is quite happy without the fitness pool at all, he solo's on Invincible all the time and with Reconstruction and Dull Pain I don't know how necessary Health would be for you.


 

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I would say yes ... gotta be 3 slotted though all heal IO's it gives u a better chance of suvival for a squishy 2ndary set ... Regen does have its uses and can save u a lot but dont rely on it too heavily ... I would get botm Health and Stam ... These two are needed when u get to the high 30's and onwards. Becoz of the nasty critters found in Perry Island

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Regen? A squishy secondary? I've never heard that one before! Regen is arguably the strongest set for soloing, and it's still pretty good in teams as well.



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It becomes a squishy if that person teams with no enhancements in their slots..


 

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Regen? A squishy secondary? I've never heard that one before! Regen is arguably the strongest set for soloing, and it's still pretty good in teams as well.


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Well I am a Katana Scrapper and she is un health slotted so she is very squishy but i've got bar Lvl 50 End Mods and Lvl 50 Health (total cost of those about 12mill) but when she does get them my god shes goona pwn ... So in respects were both right... I will start anohter debate on here though

MoG (Moment of Glory) Is it worth it or not

I tried it for 5 Bars and didnt think much of it and respeced it out the same lvl as I got it

So what does everyone else think of it


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Kat/Regen squishy? Odd, aside from having trouble taking alpha strikes, mine's very tough. Are you using DA?


 

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ofc ... i just charge in like a tank as use Lotus Drops

and then start taunting random critters as one does


thats prolly y i find my self as a squishy


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MoG (Moment of Glory) Is it worth it or not

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Worth it! Once you learn how to use it.


 

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I like MoG, makes Regen fun, adds actual risk


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Regen? A squishy secondary? I've never heard that one before!

[/ QUOTE ]It's squishy, but if you don't squash it in one hit it'll bounce back up like nothing happened


 

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Regen? A squishy secondary? I've never heard that one before!

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Amen.


 

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Seems like you know you role well


 

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I wouldn't invest much in Health. I would get it mainly on the way to stamina, small amounts of regen doesn't get more effective the more regen you have*. However it is a good stepping stone to stmaina, which is probably a good choice for all regen scrappers in the late game as it allows you to run Focussed accuracy.

Other pool powers are also not that effective at increasing survivablity, as they generally only work well if you have something to stack them against, generally I've found that timing of the regen powers and good use of the defe3nsive aspects of the primary are the key to (my) regen scrapper survivability.

* This is unlike resistance or defence, where the closer you get to 100% resistance or 50% defence the more effective a percentage point is.


@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.

 

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In fact, higher regen means each percent of regen buff is worth less:

With no buffs, you regen 5% of your health every 12 seconds.

To halve this to 6 seconds, you need a 100% regen buff.

To halve this again to 3 seconds, you'll now need a 300% regen buff.

To halve this again to 1.5 seconds, you'll need a 700% regen buff.

(these numbers do not include your base regen, which is 100%)