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AoE Blapper (Is it playable)

Cognito

By Cognito,
Posted on: 2007-04-18 09:32 in Blasters

 

Posted

Hi mates! Yesterday i've started playing a Fir/Fire Blapper, and I want to focus on the secodnaries AOE attacks. However, since I have not heard a lot concenring Fire blappers (most of them are **/Energy or **/Elect), and the fact that i died quite fast when teaming (well, she's only lvl 6) i'm not sure whether it would bring me any joy or if I will end up deleting her furstated by the huge amounts of debt... Here thsi si my planned build:

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Fast Flame
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Fire Blast
Secondary: Fire Manipulation
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01) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(1)
01) --> Ring of Fire==> Acc(1)
02) --> Fire Sword==> Dmg(2)Dmg(3)Dmg(3)Acc(5)Rechg(5)EndRdx(7)
04) --> Combustion==> Dmg(4)Dmg(7)Dmg(9)Acc(9)Rechg(11)EndRdx(11)
06) --> Boxing==> Acc(6)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)Run(40)Run(43)
10) --> Fire Sword Circle==> Acc(10)Dmg(15)Dmg(15)Dmg(19)Rechg(25)EndRdx(46)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)Run(43)Run(43)
16) --> Tough==> DmgRes(16)DmgRes(17)DmgRes(17)EndRdx(19)EndRdx(37)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(21)EndMod(21)
22) --> Weave==> DefBuf(22)DefBuf(23)DefBuf(23)EndRdx(25)
24) --> Aid Other==> Heal(24)
26) --> Aid Self==> Heal(26)Heal(27)IntRdx(27)IntRdx(31)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)
28) --> Consume==> Acc(28)Rechg(29)Rechg(29)Rechg(33)EndMod(34)EndMod(36)
30) --> Build Up==> Rechg(30)Rechg(31)Rechg(31)
32) --> Aim==> Rechg(32)Rechg(33)Rechg(33)
35) --> Burn==> Dmg(35)Dmg(36)Dmg(36)Rechg(37)Rechg(37)
38) --> Hot Feet==> Dmg(38)Dmg(39)Dmg(39)EndRdx(39)EndRdx(40)EndRdx(40)
41) --> Personal Force Field==> DefBuf(41)DefBuf(42)DefBuf(42)EndRdx(42)
44) --> Blazing Aura==> Dmg(44)Dmg(45)Dmg(45)Acc(45)EndRdx(46)EndRdx(46)
47) --> Temp Invulnerability==> DmgRes(47)DmgRes(48)DmgRes(48)EndRdx(48)
49) --> Force of Nature==> DmgRes(49)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)Rechg(50)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Defiance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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would this caharcter be playable? Does Personal force field allows you to use Self target powers like conbustion or Burn? Please share your thought with me!

 

Posted

I would suggest taking BU/Aim way way way earlier, most cases they make the difference in faceplant and exp. Im kinda confused of the 'blapper' style in this build, it seems a fire/fire wich fully focused on his aoe's of the /fire secondairy. Can tell you tough/weave wont help much. Specialy if you focus on FoN, since that one hits cap resist tightly. You can fully focus on your secondairy set, specialy if you still have to face dangerous melee mobs like the rikti and sortlike.

Imho a too tricky build if you have to get some PuG's once in a while, unlucky running after the tanker to do your pbaoe's can result shortly in faceplanting.

PFF can only do self buffs, aid self, insps etc.

The reason of the /elec and /nrg blappers, they have an insane ammount of damage compared to /fire, /ice etc. With great secondair effects (stun, hold, drain etc), they use these powers to deal out high damage. But often still rely alot on their primairy powers.

You can try, but if you have to go solo and PuG's, i wish you good luck

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Posted

Limiting yourself to melee attacks won't give you enough AoE firepower. Pick up at least fireball, preferably fire breath as well. Also, blaze is a really powerful attack.
Fighting pool is pretty much rubbish for a blaster, I'd say skip it.
PFF doesn't allow you to affect anyone but yourself. Since burn is a summon power, it can't be used in PFF. FSC/Combustion can be used, but they won't affect anything.

 

Posted

so not very brilliant bult... Thanks mates! I had the feeling but now I see the facts...if PFF could be used with fire manipulations AoE i'm pretty sure it would be plenty of AoE blappers trough the city... I'll focus on my troller again... Thanks!!!

 

Posted

A few thoughts:

This is really a team blapper - and you will almost certainly need a strong team to function (a good tank would be very helpful)... although in such a team you will function extremely well.

Given you are going to be almost exlusively teaming, I would personally drop the medicine pool - its highly inefficient in a team.

Rain of Fire may well be feasible in this build... by slotting Hot Feet for slow enhancers... by doing this you can drop a burn patch and rain of fire and your poor victims will only run out slowly... should be plenty of damage to kill at least minions by the time they run out (Befreinding a good ice tank would, however, be advisable!)

Dont skip fireball and firebreath... good AoE attacks. And its hard to skip Blaze (an excellent single target attack)

 

Posted

Get the aoe blasts!!!!

When the tank has taunt control then it may still be only safe to blast due to enemy AoE but if your either buffed or the mob is debuffed and/or controlled then its safest to be all up in there blapping.

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Posted

Many thanks for you help mates!
Based on your suggestions i've revised the build as follows:
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Fast Flame
Level: 50
Archetype: Blaster
Primary: Fire Blast
Secondary: Fire Manipulation
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01) --> Fire Blast

  2. Damage(1)
01) --> Ring of Fire
  2. Accuracy(1)
02) --> Fire Sword
  2. Damage(2)
  3. Damage(3)
  4. Damage(3)
  5. Accuracy(5)
  6. Recharge Reduction(5)
  7. End Reduction(50)
04) --> Combustion
  2. Damage(4)
  3. Damage(7)
  4. Damage(7)
  5. Accuracy(15)
  6. End Reduction(23)
  7. Recharge Reduction(46)
06) --> Swift
  2. Run Speed(6)
08) --> Hasten
  2. Recharge Reduction(8)
  3. Recharge Reduction(9)
  4. Recharge Reduction(9)
10) --> Fire Sword Circle
  2. Damage(10)
  3. Damage(11)
  4. Damage(11)
  5. Accuracy(13)
  6. Recharge Reduction(13)
  7. End Reduction(50)
12) --> Rain Of Fire
  2. Damage(12)
  3. Damage(15)
  4. Damage(19)
  5. Accuracy(19)
  6. Recharge Reduction(23)
  7. Recharge Reduction(50)
14) --> Super Speed
  2. Run Speed(14)
16) --> Build Up
  2. Recharge Reduction(16)
  3. Recharge Reduction(17)
  4. Recharge Reduction(17)
18) --> Hurdle
  2. Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina
  2. Endurance Modification(20)
  3. Endurance Modification(21)
  4. Endurance Modification(21)
22) --> Fire Ball
  2. Damage(22)
  3. Damage(27)
  4. Damage(27)
  5. Accuracy(34)
  6. Recharge Reduction(37)
  7. End Reduction(46)
24) --> Aim
  2. Recharge Reduction(24)
  3. Recharge Reduction(25)
  4. Recharge Reduction(25)
26) --> Assault
  2. End Reduction(26)
  3. End Reduction(37)
  4. End Reduction(37)
28) --> Consume
  2. Recharge Reduction(28)
  3. Recharge Reduction(29)
  4. Endurance Modification(29)
  5. Endurance Modification(31)
  6. Accuracy(31)
  7. Recharge Reduction(31)
30) --> Blaze
  2. Damage(30)
  3. Damage(33)
  4. Damage(33)
  5. Accuracy(33)
  6. Recharge Reduction(34)
  7. End Reduction(34)
32) --> Fire Breath
  2. Damage(32)
  3. Damage(40)
  4. Damage(43)
  5. Accuracy(43)
  6. Recharge Reduction(43)
  7. End Reduction(46)
35) --> Burn
  2. Damage(35)
  3. Damage(36)
  4. Damage(36)
  5. Recharge Reduction(36)
38) --> Hot Feet
  2. Slow(38)
  3. End Reduction(39)
  4. End Reduction(39)
  5. End Reduction(39)
  6. Slow(40)
  7. Slow(40)
41) --> Personal Force Field
  2. Defense Buff(41)
  3. Defense Buff(42)
  4. Defense Buff(42)
  5. End Reduction(42)
44) --> Temp Invulnerability
  2. Damage Resist(44)
  3. Damage Resist(45)
  4. Damage Resist(45)
  5. End Reduction(45)
47) --> Force of Nature
  2. Damage Resist(47)
  3. Recharge Reduction(48)
  4. Recharge Reduction(48)
  5. Recharge Reduction(48)
49) --> Tactics
  2. End Reduction(49)
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01) --> Sprint
  2. Empty Enhancement(1)
01) --> Brawl
  2. Empty Enhancement(1)
01) --> Defiance
  2. Empty Enhancement(1)
02) --> Rest
  2. Empty Enhancement(2)
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Although i think until FoN she will ve very vulnerable, she will be actually some kind of Mass destruction weapon! Amybe too much attacks... I'm pretty sure some of them will not be used in the attack chain...

 

Posted

Slotting PFF for def is overkill in PVE, better to strip those def slots and give more RES to FoN.

I'd skip assaut/tactics/superspeed and get CJ/SJ/acro if I were you, CJ+hurdle unsuppressed movement is great for a fire/fire and acro really helps (getting kb'ed while you're doing FSC or Combustion can get you killed).

 

Posted

You appear to have forgotten your nuke from the build

 

Posted

take out assault for the nuke. I'd take out burn as well aim build up fire ball fire sword circle combustion will kill all the minions and leave the leiutenantsheavily damaged.