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That said, I would probably take EMP in place of Taser there at 49. They both have a bit too short range for my tastes in regards to where I like my /dev to be in PvP. But the -1000% Regeneration in EMP makes it a better power in my books, even with the longer recharge times. On the other hand, if you're planning on using Taser a lot, then stick with it.
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/dev is amazing in Pvp. My 2nd 50 was a ice/dev called Dooms day. I mainly made him for dueling /em blasters as at the time /dev was laughed at and /em was thought the best. The control and slows /dev gives is amazing and ive had great suscess with it. /dev gives you the ability to stay at range and ice pwns most things from range. Great fun to play
I never understood why people don't like /dev for pvp, if you look at a /dev blaster it's basically a /rad/scorpion corruptor, and many people think this corruptor is great in 1vs1 pvp.
Web nade - Scorpion nades
Caltrops - LR
Higher blaster base dmg, 30% unresisted damage - EF, AM
TD, smoke grenade, cloak - RI
/dev hasn't -regen or a non-rooting fast-recharging heal, but every blast can pick aid self, and the epics are far better, between hibernate+snow storm or pff+TI+FoN.
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That said, I would probably take EMP in place of Taser there at 49. They both have a bit too short range for my tastes in regards to where I like my /dev to be in PvP. But the -1000% Regeneration in EMP makes it a better power in my books, even with the longer recharge times.
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What the hell are you smoking, and where can I get some?
I don't think the problem has ever been that /Dev can't be more than a Teleminer in PvP - especially not with a barrelful of HOs. 
Hell, I've even respecced my AR/Dev and found him to be 'useful' for hunting Stalkers and villain squishies, and general annoyance/amusement in Sirens and beyond - if you had a not-[censored] primary, I imagine you might even be able to make a 1v1 build, or an okay general support build. However, the sad truth of fact is that you're never going to be able to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
If the new build has made you enjoy your Fire/Dev more though, that's the important thing.
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What the hell are you smoking, and where can I get some?
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What the hell made you think I wrote "=" ?
Caltrops has a similar use than LR, once your opponent attacks he's suppressed and with webnade he won't be jumping anywhere, so you can throw caltrops on the ground and he'll have to use TP or be slowed.
TD gives to-hit which is as good as -def in some cases and better in others ; although the base value is lower than RI, it actually works better when it's really needed : against defensive sets. It's certainly comparable to RI for 1vs1.
SG and cloak are another useful form of mitigation between -perc, +stealth and -acc +def.
I'm not saying it's exactly the same or as useful in each single case. Even in those dark ages you love where smileys weren't used, the sign "=" worked for that. Ice/dev plays a lot like ice/rad/scorp, that's all I'm saying.
since when does caltrops slow recharge of powers?
It doesn't, but Web Grenade does.
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Caltrops has a similar use than LR, once your opponent attacks he's suppressed and with webnade he won't be jumping anywhere, so you can throw caltrops on the ground and he'll have to use TP or be slowed.
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caltrops doesnt slow recharge, and lingrig rad really kills it
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Caltrops has a similar use than LR, once your opponent attacks he's suppressed and with webnade he won't be jumping anywhere, so you can throw caltrops on the ground and he'll have to use TP or be slowed.
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Caltrops are a small AoE that:
1) isn't that difficult to get out of;
2) can be hellishly difficult to trap someone in in the first place.
When LR hits, you don't have to worry about whether or not your opponent is going to be able to get out of it, it kills regen, and it kills recovery - in one shot. You don't waste precious time with Web Grenade, position Caltrops, re-WG, attack attack, miss with WG, curse, watch them SS away from Caltrops, delete and reroll Ice/Rad and vow never to listen to advice from the forums.
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TD gives to-hit which is as good as -def in some cases and better in others ; although the base value is lower than RI, it actually works better when it's really needed : against defensive sets. It's certainly comparable to RI for 1vs1.
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TD is good, TD + Aim is great, but /Dev still suffers from a lack of Build Up. Past a certain point extra Acc is meaningless, unless you absolutely desperately just HAVE to hit that guy in Elude - but extra damage is seldom meaningless. People will routinely hit you when using TD, they do not when you use RI, TD is not remotely overall comparable with RI in a 1v1 even when...
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SG and cloak are another useful form of mitigation between -perc, +stealth and -acc +def.
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... the def boost from CD is minimal and the To-Hit Debuff in SG is somewhere between laughable and non-existant (scientists are still conducting tests).
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Ice/dev plays a lot like ice/rad/scorp, that's all I'm saying.
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Ice/Dev is to Ice/Rad/BS as White Lightning is to Veuve Clicquot.
Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% behind people advising others on how to jiggle their /Dev builds for greater PvPability - but trying to draw a parallel between Ice/Dev and Ice/Rad/BS based on the fact the Ice/Dev kinda has a few things that work somewhat like Ice/Rad/BS but only about fifty [censored] times weaker and far less wieldy is so far from plausible it makes me wonder if we're playing the same game, especially given your recent Empath "advice" (and the godawful build you came up with there).
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teleminers/flying defiance snipers=stalkers that only use AS all time no matter what....
/dev is capable of a HELL of a lot more, just takes more work/effort and thought.
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I don't think the problem has ever been that /Dev can't be more than a Teleminer in PvP - especially not with a barrelful of HOs. Hell, I've even respecced my AR/Dev and found him to be 'useful' for hunting Stalkers and villain squishies, and general annoyance/amusement in Sirens and beyond - if you had a not-[censored] primary, I imagine you might even be able to make a 1v1 build, or an okay general support build. However, the sad truth of fact is that you're never going to be able to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
If the new build has made you enjoy your Fire/Dev more though, that's the important thing.
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Oh Im loving it now, superspeeding web grenading, stalker spotting insane damage machine, adding the virtually uninteruptable fire snipe into the attack chain is a thing of beauty. I have never felt so invincible on a squishy and hearing fire armour brutes complain about the fire damage hurting them too much is quite amusing 
Post 30 pvp I dont know how it will fare or if it will be so much fun but for now it rules the SC zone so long as I maintain my strength of will consumption.
on a different note AR is sad at the moment, removing the draw root from it would help it a lot as its severly hampered by this and no other weapon sets have this issue now.
Anyway, 2 thumbs up on fire/dev, its no longer the uber pling machine it used to be but it rocks in SC Im gonna make another for Union
*edit* oh and words cannot express just how much I miss web grenade when im on my other toons 
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oh and words cannot express just how much I miss web grenade when im on my other toons
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I find this too. I love my nades..
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Pre epic yes it can be but ive cold epic so its easy. snowstorm + web nade means they arnt moving fast anyway. After that you can trap them easy.
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Pre epic yes it can be but ive cold epic so its easy. snowstorm + web nade means they arnt moving fast anyway. After that you can trap them easy.
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Well thats one of the few possibly working combos that I can think of. Anyway, I'd be interested to duel /devs on defiant or test server to check them out. Cloaking device is pretty pointless in arena on its own however, and combined with smoke grenade the -percep lasts only a few seconds. (from my duels with Trix)
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Pre epic yes it can be but ive cold epic so its easy. snowstorm + web nade means they arnt moving fast anyway. After that you can trap them easy.
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Well thats one of the few possibly working combos that I can think of. Anyway, I'd be interested to duel /devs on defiant or test server to check them out. Cloaking device is pretty pointless in arena on its own however, and combined with smoke grenade the -percep lasts only a few seconds. (from my duels with Trix)
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Ill be at tomorrow nights arena event from about 8.30 if you would like a duel. Ill proberly be there as Bitter Ice but ill be happy to fetch my /dev for a few 1v1s
Okay, guys, can we try to drag this back up to a more civil level, please?
It's perfectly possible to disagree with each other's opinions without being quite so, ah, 'prickly' about it.
Thanks.
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I think he means recharge.
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2) can be hellishly difficult to trap someone in in the first place.
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Pre epic yes it can be but ive cold epic so its easy. snowstorm + web nade means they arnt moving fast anyway. After that you can trap them easy.
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Well thats one of the few possibly working combos that I can think of. Anyway, I'd be interested to duel /devs on defiant or test server to check them out. Cloaking device is pretty pointless in arena on its own however, and combined with smoke grenade the -percep lasts only a few seconds. (from my duels with Trix)
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its apparantly 60 seconds but if they attack then the stealth portion of cloak goes down and smoke on its own is nigh on useless in a duel. I want the bugged to hell smoke grenades of night widows which are seemingly -a billion perception points and allows you to fight in total anominity
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LR has no -recovery, does it?
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I think he means recharge.
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Bingo, my bad.
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its apparantly 60 seconds but if they attack then the stealth portion of cloak goes down and smoke on its own is nigh on useless in a duel. I want the bugged to hell smoke grenades of night widows which are seemingly -a billion perception points and allows you to fight in total anominity
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its apparantly 60 seconds but if they attack then the stealth portion of cloak goes down and smoke on its own is nigh on useless in a duel. I want the bugged to hell smoke grenades of night widows which are seemingly -a billion perception points and allows you to fight in total anominity
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lol makes you wonder really just who amongst the dev team hates /dev that much
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Must admit i was really annoyed about how CD and smoke nade togeather didnt drop debuffs (snow storm ect)
IMO they should
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Ill be at tomorrow nights arena event from about 8.30 if you would like a duel. Ill proberly be there as Bitter Ice but ill be happy to fetch my /dev for a few 1v1s
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On saturday evenings I usually can't make it. Try throwing a tell to me or try defiant pvpers global channel at times.
I recently respecd my Fire/Dev blaster BlazeZen on defiant from her old spec of a flying ghost sniper into something a bit more dynamic and involving. Now I havent included the slotting here as Im on my laptop and my screen is too small to use the herobuilder effectively but slotting has copious amounts of HOs in it and the coupe de grace in my opinion are the 3 acc/dams and 3 interupt reductions in blazing bolt (fire snipe) This is now enabling me to use snipe as almost a standard attack, I can fire it off and as soon as I go into the "crouch" can run around during the rest of the animation and this has increased my attack chain damage dramatically. With strength of wills in use my fire/dev is pretty monstrous in sirens call and though I havent done much post 30 PVP with it I did duel a lvl 50 claws/regen and held off to a 0-0 draw today, smoke grenade + cloak seems to be pretty awesome and everyone should 6 slot web grenades
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