US Rad/Sonic Offender Team PvP Build


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oh and I am speaking from having a lvl 50 Rad/Sonic/Power myself

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Yeah, and I can testify that it is insanely good in duels. On the other hand, Im not sure if rad/sonic is a standard support toon anyway. If it would be, I guess psi epic might indeed work better in a team pvp situation.

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thats what i was saying, this shouldnt be considered a support toon, same as rad/psi shouldnt be, it weakens it a whole and takes away what makes it great. You should always play to a characters strengths.

Its an end monster even when optimised and having leadership toggles will gimp the class to a far greater extent than tha team benefits it will bring (with the exception of vengence but thats essentially 3 powers, a ton of slots and end you cant afford without external backup)

Theoretical PVP is all very good, "oh yeah I will have blah blah and blah blah" but the simple fact of the matter is that organised team pvp in the european circle is seldom and its far better to make your toon as self sufficient as you can. Stop thinking of rad/sonic as a defender and think of it as a blaster with debuffs and a uninteruptable self heal, I beleive the team will benefit far more from it, rad/psis and rad/sonics are pure offence on the US and from my own meagre experience this is right.

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TBH you're far better off telkineses someone and use you're rrange damage, the telkineses will help people on you're team melee the target. what's better you might get a melee hit in or the two blasters will melee the heck out of the target? When we fought the pd's with a rad the raded targets started to run like hell, in a closed map it might have been good to go for tf for that extra damage but in a bigger one i wouldn't .


 

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Rad/Sonic, especially builds like this are designed for 1v1 PvP Psydock.

Besides, Rad is just too good with Power/Primal.


 

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TBH you're far better off telkineses someone and use you're rrange damage, the telkineses will help people on you're team melee the target. what's better you might get a melee hit in or the two blasters will melee the heck out of the target? When we fought the pd's with a rad the raded targets started to run like hell, in a closed map it might have been good to go for tf for that extra damage but in a bigger one i wouldn't .

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tbh u dont know what you are on about, not being rude but its a fact, not discussing any fictional pvp team [censored] here, hes asking for help on an OFFENDER build as dictated by the thread title. And again no offence but you dont know anything about how the build synergises, I dont have a great deal of experience on mine but at least I can offer first hand information, there is a reason why every Rad/Sonic that PVPs is Rad/Sonic/Power on the US, you want TK? go roll a mind/rad and play to the strengths, total waste on this particular combo.


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you're right stalk i've never played one but so i got no real experience but in theory i would go telkineses, but im sure a rad wouldn't have the end without sb.

In theory you need to stack - resistance for you tf to do that awsome damage right?

So why not telkineses the target stack the - resistance easier and make the blasters do even more damage then you would with the tf? and you'd do some damage to the target as well.


 

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:0 I forgot I used to stack ID. Haven't PvP'd on my kinetic in half a year. Mostly its just speed boost that everyone wants. I don't think there are many Kinetics that stack ID on Union anyway. Not sure about empaths and other sonics, but clarity and shields are pretty standard.



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Think i read the dam res from ID no longer stacks from the same caster. The repel res etc still stacks but not the dam res. Can anyone confirm this?


 

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Although I still say PB doesn't boost -res

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It doesnt. -res is another form of +dam and damage is not a secondary effect. PB does buff a whole lotta other things, like other debuffs in that build.


 

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Although I still say PB doesn't boost -res

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It doesnt. -res is another form of +dam and damage is not a secondary effect. PB does buff a whole lotta other things, like other debuffs in that build.

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It's all about the boosted Heal and the boosted LR.


 

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Has the +res from ID ever stacked? I think the knockback stacking was added roughly a year ago. Maybe with issue 6. Stacking ID allows anyone to walk upto a storm controller or FF defender. 3 is best. Stops abit of Mez too and teleport protection was added in I7.


 

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Im only going by what i was told ive never tested it. I was told a while back it did stack from the same caster. Then I read on the US boards last week that it no longer stacks. But ive been reading these boards long enough to know not to believe everything I read


 

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Although I still say PB doesn't boost -res

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It doesnt. -res is another form of +dam and damage is not a secondary effect. PB does buff a whole lotta other things, like other debuffs in that build.

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Although I have to contratict the notion of -res being just another form of +dam (It´s a form of -damage mitigation and affects the receiver´s side of the damage calculation) it is still not on the list of power boosted buffs/debuffs.
I guess with some of the available -res powers and their direct and sometimes lasting effect on inflicted damage in mind Power Boost would seem slightly unbalanced, especially since it is quite good as it is.




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Although I have to contratict the notion of -res being just another form of +dam (It´s a form of -damage mitigation and affects the receiver´s side of the damage calculation) it is still not on the list of power boosted buffs/debuffs.

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You should try a Rad/Sonic vs Rad/Sonic duel. Can be quite amusing &gt;.&gt;


 

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You should try a Rad/Sonic vs Rad/Sonic duel. Can be quite amusing &gt;.&gt;

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or we should get Stalk involved and have 3 on 3s with 3 rad/sonics


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I'm pleased I came across this thread... had been wondering how to spec my rad/sonic from a frankly awful build I made one crazy afternoon for a TF. I've now specced it a little like the build on here with modifications to suit my own playstyle... and wow... it's great. I think I can almost out damage my sonic blaster