Nuke Help


Aerys

 

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Nova is the best looking one imo. The mobs flying in all directions appeals to me (even if its not really useful). Inferno is propably the best blaster nuke though cause of its pure damage.

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Yeah - I was always a little envious of Nova's animation as Inferno - whilst sexy too - was always abit less showy, and the knockback with Nova is always pretty dramatic.

Nova might be "safer" than Inferno due to the knockback - but I'd rather have the raw damage, if I'm honest. Also - anyone know if the DoT ticks for inferno went up 50% with the recent patch?

Also - to the above poster - unfortunately I haven't taken Power Boost yet. Not sure if I will till late-game to be honest, if at all. I know what you are saying about the to-hit stuff though - so will try to make room. Might loose the snipe, and energy punch in my next respec so could take it then, maybe...


 

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If someone is holding aggro for you, Inferno is safer than Nova by a wide margin in my opinion. The danger in nuking is in the time it takes to get in to mele and fire the animation, that's when you're vulnerable to AOE attacks etc and you can manage that to a large extent by positioning. After you've used it you can be out of there immediately if you want to. At that stage I find it a lot safer to have the aggro contained where it was before, particularly if it's a Tanker managing it, than to have several angry bosses/maybe luitenents scattered around a room looking for someone to take it out on.


 

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Nova is the best looking one imo. The mobs flying in all directions appeals to me (even if its not really useful). Inferno is propably the best blaster nuke though cause of its pure damage.

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I wouldn't say inferno is the 'best' blaster nuke. It's advantages are the DoT at the end and the fact that there are few resistances to fire. Same with Blizzard.

For me Sonic is the dogs. The stacked -Res and stacked disorient, coupled with by far the quickest activation time makes it the 'best for me'. Agree on the best looking though...for looks alone, Nova roxxorz.
There's a thread Chaplain did here comparing damage for blaster nukes which showed it was a close thing between Blizzard and Dreadful Wail for top damage (scroll down for more uptodate calculations), Blizzard obviously with the no cap better for more than 16 enemies.


 

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Mmmmmmmh, nukes...
I just love my corruptor´s fulcrum shifted Dreadful Wail.




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Ok, I admit dreadful wail is up there too. Its disorient is quite useful.


 

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If someone is holding aggro for you, Inferno is safer than Nova by a wide margin in my opinion. The danger in nuking is in the time it takes to get in to mele and fire the animation, that's when you're vulnerable to AOE attacks etc and you can manage that to a large extent by positioning. After you've used it you can be out of there immediately if you want to. At that stage I find it a lot safer to have the aggro contained where it was before, particularly if it's a Tanker managing it, than to have several angry bosses/maybe luitenents scattered around a room looking for someone to take it out on.

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An excellent point! and aswell as the tanker holding aggro - the survivers still remain packed enough together for other blaster and debuffer AoEs to be effecive. Far neater.

/em smuglook


 

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fire off aim, the build up from the energy epic that escapes my mind, fulcrum shift, nova, pop a blue, hit transferance on a survivor to get you end back and keep on going.

you may also whoop, shout i am invincible and hell yeah! at the monitor.

lets see a blaster do that :-p


 

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How dare you, Sir.

Begone Controller from the blaster section - you are making me cry!


 

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How dare you, Sir.

Begone Controller from the blaster section - you are making me cry!

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Erm, he'd have to be a Kin/ defender to do a Nova like that though...


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fire off aim, the build up from the energy epic that escapes my mind, fulcrum shift, nova, pop a blue, hit transferance on a survivor to get you end back and keep on going.

you may also whoop, shout i am invincible and hell yeah! at the monitor.

lets see a blaster do that :-p

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I hit aim, BU, nova, catch of breath, conserve power and kill the next mob spawn with single target attacks while you are congratulating yourself


 

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How dare you, Sir.

Begone Controller from the blaster section - you are making me cry!

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Erm, he'd have to be a Kin/ defender to do a Nova like that though...

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exactly, defender


 

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Hehe, I have tried both, it's fun as a kin, but I can do more damage with Aim and Build up and a nuke alone on a Blaster than I can capped out on my Kinetic defender with FS, and I can also sort my endurance out afterwards in much the same way with Power Sink or Consume.

The only real advantages you have as a Kinetic defender is how often you can nuke, and if you take one of the "defender" sets you also get a very useful secondary effects which is buffable with Power Build up (ie. the hold on Atomic Blast and the stun on Deadful Wail).

And you will not convince me that scattering them all over the place is more useful than either of those.

The best option for me is a blaster teamed with a kinetic, Wyx teamed with one for a looong time, she liked it a lot.


 

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In short if you have a nuke - for goodness sake use it. I've been in big teams where I seem to be the only one 'letting one off'

(oh, and btw Inferno is the best - shame defenders can't get it)


 

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How dare you, Sir.

Begone Controller from the blaster section - you are making me cry!

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Erm, he'd have to be a Kin/ defender to do a Nova like that though...

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exactly, defender

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Yeah - thats what I said

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ummmm....


 

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Another good thing about nova type nukes. if you find yourself in a near wipedout team and the mobs start attacking you, then hit nova, and hopefully you will kill them or knock'em away so you can run . It doesn't always work but when it does it sure is a cool getaway and reminds me of comic book style last ditch attacks.

And like the man said, use your nuke. For the love of god use it! I too find myself to be the only one using it in teams today. Tho i have been called obessed with novaing, as it do it whenever it recharges....


 

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After levelling an Ice corr and an Archery corr and having tried both blizzard and Rain of Arrows, I can safely say that I'd take RoA over the supposedly almighty blizzard any day.

So far, with Aim+BU RoA wipes any pack of yellow/orange mobs and most Lts (including S/L resistant mobs like Freaks), and a queued Explosive Arrow can mop up the possible stragglers.

The beauty of it lies in the fact that you can do it every 20 seconds or so, and it doesn't drain your end.

While blizzard's raw power is nice, mobs can still manage to get out its area sometimes and I found out I really hated the end crash. If it doesn't kill your target right off the bat and you don't have any blues/power sink, you're in trouble.

And besides, dear god RoA looks awesome
Paired with an Illu/Emp troller, it's more than deadly : Fortitude, Invis, Aim, BU, dead pack of mobs, rinse and repeat

I think i'd have a hard time playing another blaster after this one, it has come to the point where my duo partner gets bored because she doesn't have time to fire a single power besides fortitude or invis before I've killed everything, hehe.

Rain of Arrows > *


 

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Rain of Arrows is indeed a very nice pseudo-nuke. I like it so much I have tears of joy in my eyes when I see it (except when I play my villains and Manticore uses it, then the tears have different reasons).
*pats his kinetic archers head*




If it has
eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.

 

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fire off aim, the build up from the energy epic that escapes my mind, fulcrum shift, nova, pop a blue, hit transferance on a survivor to get you end back and keep on going.

you may also whoop, shout i am invincible and hell yeah! at the monitor.

lets see a blaster do that :-p

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*Waves irracticly* Me Me Me I can I can

Well Almost anyway, got no substitute for Fulcrum, and Geas can be a tad risky but with aim+BU (1 or 2 insps) Nova, CaB Power Sink and nuff said.


 

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After levelling an Ice corr and an Archery corr and having tried both blizzard and Rain of Arrows, I can safely say that I'd take RoA over the supposedly almighty blizzard any day.

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Who ever said Blizzard was almighty? For a corrupter maybe? :P

The only thing blizzard can do, is stack with ice storm Those 2 straight after eachother and it becomes the highest DoT ever seen (funny with corrupters and scroute or how u spell that). I even do a EMP (ice/nrg/elec) before with a happy powerboost, we're talking massive drain/mezz/DoT So for only a boss i have to worry, the rest is either drained, dead or mezzed :P


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Would have to dig the post comparing all nukes, which states that in the end, Blizzard is the most damaging of all.

I always use EMP on my corr before firing IS and Blizzard too, but in the time it takes me to do that, my blaster can Aim+BU+RoA a group, move to another one and fire off another RoA.


 

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I remember that thread about nuke comparison. Blizzard ended up on top because it has no restriction on the number of targets. Unfortunately it´s not so nice against -slow-resistent mobs. Ever tried to blizzard a spawn with a Warwolf-Boss? Not funny that, I tell you.




If it has
eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.

 

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Another defender nuke that is worth remembering and I use on odd occasions (usually when solo).

Assault > Hasten > Black hole > Tar Patch > Darkest Night > Summon Fluffy > Tar Patch > Power Build Up > Aim > Atomic Blast.

Sure it takes 45 seconds to pull off but is one of the safest you can use both before and after

I'm wondering what Dreadful Wail would be like in there instead for even more stacked -res....


 

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I'm wondering what Dreadful Wail would be like in there instead for even more stacked -res....

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I'm guessing pretty good. I really liked the idea of Dark/Sonic so I made one recently (and so far I'm enjoying the character, although I suspect endurance problems will cause me some annoyance fairly soon). I've agreed with my husband to keep that at the same level as his current scrapper though, so it'll be a chilly day in hell before I can tell you much about how Dreadful Wail works with Dark.