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are they a little more competitive?
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Nope.
lol harsh answer ^^
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lol harsh answer ^^
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He's right though, as brilliantly as the AT can perform in (a good) team, they still need a good look at for PvP.
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another question did some domi succeded in build a reputation in PvP ?
is their known name?
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Bilharzia (Plant/Thorns) is/was the original and arguably best Dominator on Union.
Unfortunately, he hasn't played since the buffs to Dominators - in his time, I did see him knock the tar out of near enough every type of Tank, Scrapper, and Blaster in the game, quite frequently without any kind of team support.
@Synaesthetix
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That may be reason to respect the player, but the AT has nothing going for it. Ps. Id like to see someone repeat it, instead of listening to zillion "this guy could do it"-posts.
Personally I don't complain about 'unfairness', I complain when I perceive an imbalance in the game and expect devs to fix it.
Well it can do well (taken down brutes, corruptors, blasters, scrappers etc but not many tanks so not same league as Bil) but with the use of inspirations then thats when they start to seriously struggle (well I do).
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Dominators in PvP are incredibly unforgiving. I have only tried to PvP with my Fire/Nrg dominator so far and it is a lot more intense than other ATs I have tried at PvP. If you are team pvping your domination bar fills nice and fast but one false move and you are going down. My strategy is all about picking my fights and making sure that domination is up or almost up when attacking. With domination up and with help from power boost I have managed to beat a tank and a scrapper in the past (I think I really suprised the tank) but I have defiantely died more times than I have managed to be victorious.
They also really seem to struggle at lower lvl pvp. I remember being in bloody bay with the all dom team and it took six of us to take down a regen scrapper, and even then it took ages. It must have been like a pack of rabid puppies nibbling him to death.
I guess, in short, if you want a challengin AT to pvp with the go with a dominator, just expect to be far from uber!
I think I agree with that. Very unforgiving, challenging and frustrating but also very rewarding. You feel you earnt every kill and you constantly on the edge. One wrong move tends to spell death. In conclusion, very squishy and hard to master and thus seem to be very rare.
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One thing I particularly hate about them is that they must be the latest bloomers in the game. Kinda hard with all the slander flying about to believe they will eventually get any better.. (and since I have fought doms at lvl 50 Im more than inclined to say that they dont)
ps. Since I havent killed anybody in pvp with my dom yet, cant say about how rewarding it feels. I have experiences from union sirens that make me feel not to want to go there anyway.
pps. as for the topic question, I said long before the changes went live that domination changes will change nothing in pvp.
My favourite has been taking down an energy/elec brute which has 40% resistance to my attacks. To say he was surprised at going down to me (in front of an audience which made it even better as they were show it was going to be a walkover) was an understatement. This was a no insp fight in warburg where you have access to afew more control powers which make you more rounded then say Sirens Call. However can still do well in Sirens if last long enough to get domination up - what you need is a team that knows what it is doing. Bah all this talk of pvping making me want to play the damn game and stuck at work 
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I might tolerate my doms kill/death ratios of 0/25 but I just get fed up at the "HAHA! U SUK" messages on top of that..
I'm a lousy and inexperienced PvP player but my fire/fire has currently 2 solo kills and no deaths in Bloody Bay. It was probably a fluke, though, and it kind of helped that the regen scrapper had no mez protection at level 15. 
My ice/ice does get 1v1 kills if I can pick my targets and take my time before the gank squad arrives. Something like a Spines/SR scrapper leaves me no chance, though, and in team PvP I get taken out laughably easily if the opposition decides I've caused enough nuisance. I've yet to really understand the role of a dominator in team PvP. We require support but provide little compared to others, since so much of our primary is easily negated.
Team pvp I can be a big nuisance. Def need a few support characters such as a thermal corruptor about. Normally its letting the opposition come to us and its a matter of picking off the targets. Domination builds up in no time if can survive the first attack (i normally venture out and build up domination ready for such encounter). You have to be very wary of blasters though (won most of this battles so then faced defiance based suicide blasters taking out key targets) and make sure if there is an empath you take it out ASAP as will be nullifying most your holds etc.
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Max Powerz: Lv 50 Tanker
Villains
Max Khaos: Lv 50
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LF SG! Arc ID# 193083
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I might tolerate my doms kill/death ratios of 0/25 but I just get fed up at the "HAHA! U SUK" messages on top of that..
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Yeah I had one guy say I sucked because I'm unable to break the game mechanics to increase my damage, a regen as well. After spanking him a load of times he moaned that I just run away (ie. dont stand toe to toe where he can 2 shot me).
One thing I like about doms and pvp is it gives you a chance to develop new strategies, there isnt anyone going "you need powers x, y, and z to pwn on a dom".
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I might tolerate my doms kill/death ratios of 0/25 but I just get fed up at the "HAHA! U SUK" messages on top of that..
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Yeah I had one guy say I sucked because I'm unable to break the game mechanics to increase my damage, a regen as well. After spanking him a load of times he moaned that I just run away (ie. dont stand toe to toe where he can 2 shot me).
One thing I like about doms and pvp is it gives you a chance to develop new strategies, there isnt anyone going "you need powers x, y, and z to pwn on a dom".
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Thats when having easier pvp toons available comes in handy. Sometimes you know there is nothing you can do and only option is to give up or switch to a more suitable toon to give them a better challenge. The 2nd option is the one I normally go for and is very satisfying. Those that are complaining etc soon move on when they haven't got the easy kills to get.
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Dominators can take down tankers at a good rate if you know what to do.
Stood my ground against 2 tankers in SC for a couple of months ago....to me it looked like they had more problems trying to squat me than I had taking on them.
Only thing that saved them though was the tanker inherent..."gauntlet" I have no taunt resistance so it made it hard to concentrate on just one at the time.
Have also taken down regen scrappers without much difficulty.
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On my Plant/Thorns I've taken down pretty much players regardless of the AT I've been against. Gotta agree with PeeWee when there's a Tanker, not to mention 2 Tankers stacking enough mag gets hard as they keep taunting me off. I don't remember if Domination protected from Taunt, but I wouldn't put my money on it.
In Siren's Call/Bloody Bay getting kills is alot harder than in Warburg due to loosing the toggle dropper & the other high damage attack (in Thorns and Ice's case, the others get a snipe) but Energy has it's big attack as early as 28. And as killing becomes harder I mean it becomes longer, and you need more tactics to counter the ATs you go against. -Travel is always good thing when you need to get away while the suppression period is in session. Carrion Creeps, Ice Slick, multiple Levitates or Lifts do all good. Fire has Smoke for the -perc but this doesn't make them stay still.
IMO Doms can be viable in PvP, as long as Domination is on. I remember teaming with a Stalker in WB, there was a Fight Club over the beach, so I built Domination, activated it on the (8?) people being clustered and layed down Carrion Creeps and we both went on killing spree. Someone said afterwards "Random murder ftw" and we had tons of fun.
Regarding that, one thing to do easily now is to hold a lieut, spam brawl and the inherent poke attack until you have Domination. Then go assault someone who doesn't suspect anything. Good stuff.
There's no need to be unhappy about the performance of Dominators in PvP I think Max's "Very unforgiving, challenging and frustrating but also very rewarding" is about right, but you can also exaggerate the problems of Dominators and forget that they have similar problems to blasters, defenders, controllers and corruptors.
If you check the US forums there has been a lot posted about Dominators and there are a lot more people playing them in PvP. I've just read a great post here:
Hambone's Guide to Dominator Zone PvP
It says everything I wanted to say and a lot more about playing Dominators, and it's zonal PvP - the only kind I'm interested in. If you want to play a Dominator in the PvP zones, read this post.
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There's no need to be unhappy about the performance of Dominators in PvP I think Max's "Very unforgiving, challenging and frustrating but also very rewarding" is about right, but you can also exaggerate the problems of Dominators and forget that they have similar problems to blasters, defenders, controllers and corruptors.
If you check the US forums there has been a lot posted about Dominators and there are a lot more people playing them in PvP. I've just read a great post here:
Hambone's Guide to Dominator Zone PvP
It says everything I wanted to say and a lot more about playing Dominators, and it's zonal PvP - the only kind I'm interested in. If you want to play a Dominator in the PvP zones, read this post.
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Oh cheers for the link, lots of good advice in there. I read it ages ago but couldnt find it again. Would have thought the mods over there would have linked it in the dom faq's tbh.
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I think I agree with that. Very unforgiving, challenging and frustrating but also very rewarding.
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You're talking about PvP but you could just as easily be describing the AT full stop.
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I think I agree with that. Very unforgiving, challenging and frustrating but also very rewarding.
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You're talking about PvP but you could just as easily be describing the AT full stop.
Welcome back flith!
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Nah in PvE they rock. They make such a difference to the team I fail to understand why they struggle to get teams (I know a lot of doms that have found this).
I think if more people see doms doing well in pvp then people maybe more inclined to create one. Its just that rightly or wrongly most people see doms as very weak in PvP and it puts them off creating one.
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shhhh....
they suck dude and we need another buff
They do need a much more active playstyle than most other ATs ... if you can get over the price of admission ,they do indeed rock.
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you into the world
what did the several try of buff really did on dominator in PvP?
are they a little more competitive?
another question did some domi succeded in build a reputation in PvP ?
is their known name?
what you heroes find more in domi powers?