Fire/Kin Vs Ice/Kin?


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HI just made a Fire/Kin Corruptor but rrrading the forum i see ALOT of Ice/Kin so plz which is best & why :-Fire/Kin Vs Ice/Kin?
I can try to suss the slotting myself as i go alont, but aaadvice on what powers not to took would be good.
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Ice = Control, -SPD.
Fire = Big boomy flames of death.



For Ice, every power available has its uses. With the possible exception of Frost Breath (just another blast, but with a speshul animation dontcha know?). However, coupled with Kinetics...hm, not so sure. Ok, so you have Ice Storm and Blizzard for the mini/mass nukes to use after Fulcrum Shift, but they lack the damage of Blaze or Inferno.


 

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fire is mostly AoE's like fireball,fire breath,RoF where as ice is mostly all single target attacks with some holds.
I've played fire/kin and currently have an ice/kin and i can honestly say that /kin dosn't help fires/ bugger of a long recharge time on attacks much
Fire/kin seemed really hard to solo to compared to ice/kin as it seems quite end heavy.


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Go with your original instincts, you made the Fire/Kin because you wanted to try it, presumably. It doesn't matter what other people are playing as.


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Blizzard is incredibly good with scourge though. Especially since you can get the same freakshow twice with it.
Plus the hold in ice is useful.

Either set would be good, play what you enjoy - both can be viable.


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Go with your original instincts, you made the Fire/Kin because you wanted to try it, presumably. It doesn't matter what other people are playing as.

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Yes you are wright and i have stuck with Fire/Kin so thx for posting every 1.


 

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Fire/Kin for PvE and Ice/kin for PvP at the end of the day


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I have to say, my Fire/Kin probably pumps out more damage than any other toon I've made thus far. In relatively large teams I'm constantly capping my damage, launching out ranged AoEs and cones, buffing my own recharge considerably and refilling my end bar whenever necessary. I always tend to team with a fair number of Brutes and they soak up a lot of the aggro that is a perennial problem for Fire Blast users. A point blank nuke suits the up close and personal Kinetics play style.

Regarding Ice Blast, in my personal opinion it seems kind of a waste to be able to buff your own damage so much then have so few AoE powers. You get lots of Aggro as a Kin anyway by firing off Fulcrum etc. However, the secondary effect of Ice Blast (slows, -recharge) stack well with Siphon Speed, and the Holds make up for a comparitive lack of damage mitigation in Kinetics.


 

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Fire Blast has 4 AoE-attacks.

Ice Blast has 3 AoE-attacks.

Ah snap that's too few AoEs for Ice but Fire has a lot of AoE!
You know, the difference between 3 and 4 is so big that it's not even funny.


 

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Fire Blast has 4 AoE-attacks.

Ice Blast has 3 AoE-attacks.

Ah snap that's too few AoEs for Ice but Fire has a lot of AoE!
You know, the difference between 3 and 4 is so big that it's not even funny.

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if you dont have anything decent do add exept slag decent posters off who are trying to help then just dont post at all , ALSO ! try reading the Forum Rules & Guidlines you might learn a thing or 2.
sry for the angry post but posts like yours just bug me !
THANK YOU GREEN VIPER , because from playing you are right, Kin causes agro but Ice is good in pvp, but i am more of a team player so i think the fire Kin is better suited for me, i can suss out the pvp style of her play when i get to BB or Sirens.


 

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Fire Blast has 4 AoE-attacks.

Ice Blast has 3 AoE-attacks.

Ah snap that's too few AoEs for Ice but Fire has a lot of AoE!
You know, the difference between 3 and 4 is so big that it's not even funny.

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Fire Ball actually makes one hell of a difference.

Blizzard Vs Inferno for a Kin, you need to be in melee for FS anyway, so Inferno is just more handy to click, not click, then target its location, then click again like Blizzard, which the mobs dont stay in anyway.

No one usually takes Rain of Fire or Ice Storm, unless you have some kind of AoE slow, hold, immob or stun.

That leaves Frost Breath for Ice and Fire Breath and Fire Ball for Fire, which takes a sizeable amount of health from mobs together, something Frost Breath just can't do alone.


 

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click again like Blizzard, which the mobs dont stay in anyway.

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Those would be the knocked over slowed mobs then? Seriously, have you ever even seen this power in use? Plus with Ice/Kin, you can use blizzard as an opening move on minions, knowing you need 1 blue insp and you'll be ready to go again in a second ... without having to dive into the middle of them.


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No one usually takes Rain of Fire or Ice Storm, unless you have some kind of AoE slow, hold, immob or stun.

[/ QUOTE ]I have both. Not on the same corruptor but even so ... tar patch + rain of fire (for example) is an awesome combo and ice storm is a nice group separation power solo at lower levels.

I'm obviously playing a completely different game from you.

I happen to agree with the fire breath/fire ball argument but the level of ignorance in the rest of your post is quite impressive.


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No one usually takes Rain of Fire or Ice Storm, unless you have some kind of AoE slow, hold, immob or stun.

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Are you kidding?

Blizzard followed by Ice storm will wipe out almost an entire mob in seconds on an 8 man team.

For PvP got ice/kin (having a hold is priceless)
For PvE go fire/kin

For solo PvE got Ice/Kin (stacking slows to keep mobs at range and being able to hold the big threats keeps you alive)
For team PvE go Fire/Kin

Seeing as we've pretty much established you're looking to team PvE, please ignore the comments above on Ice Storm. In a team, AoE's are king and Blizzard/Ice Storm/Fireball is a devastating combination.

My Ice/Ice Corruptor is a PvP build now but when I was levelling him the Blizzard/Ice Storm/Sleet combo was pretty much all I needed to use in most cases and is also the PvE godsend of most other Ice/Ice Corruptors. Saying no one takes those type of location specific AoE's is just not true.


 

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Just for the record Ice/Kin is NOT a PvP build it's a PvE like all Builds in the game, it's just got advantages over Fire/Kin in PvP. And the "Team" side of both builds is the Kin powers as they benefit the team more than your Ice/Fire blasts so either are great for use in teams.


 

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if you dont have anything decent do add exept slag decent posters off who are trying to help then just dont post at all , ALSO ! try reading the Forum Rules & Guidlines you might learn a thing or 2.
sry for the angry post but posts like yours just bug me !


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Now before you start calling me names, I wanted to tell you that Ice isn't the "only single target"-department and both of the primaries are good in teams and solo. Fire does more DPS due to it's faster recharging level 18-power with more damage than Bitter Ice Blast, but there aren't any extra secondary effects. Fire is also slightly cheaper on Endurance if you don't use your AoEs mindlessly, heh!

And if you'd like for another word of maybe-wisdom, Fire/Kin gets less called to be "fotm!!" than Ice/Kin when battling in SC, if you don't want to be called names by that random Spines/SR


 

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click again like Blizzard, which the mobs dont stay in anyway.

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Those would be the knocked over slowed mobs then? Seriously, have you ever even seen this power in use?

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I've seen it use many a time, maybe it was the caster who just didn't know how to set it right to get the best effect, but they still run from the location.

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No one usually takes Rain of Fire or Ice Storm, unless you have some kind of AoE slow, hold, immob or stun.

[/ QUOTE ]I have both. Not on the same corruptor but even so ... tar patch + rain of fire (for example) is an awesome combo and ice storm is a nice group separation power solo at lower levels.

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Since when has Tar Patch not been an AoE Slow?

If people usually took RoF/Ice Storm I would have seen it in most of the Fire or Ice Corrs I've teamed with.

I'm not saying that no one takes these powers, just that they aren't the most popular powers in the set, hence I said usually.


 

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waw you guyz really know your stuff aswell as being good gamers!!!