Ouch tough choice!
For Dark/Dark I found Dark Consumption only any good after I had Hasten. However you can get Quickness and Hasten.
I never got Siphon Life as it is completely redundant when you have probably the best self heal in the game ( Dark Regeneration ). However you have none.
So I don't know, but I am inclined to say Siphon Life.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Yes, that's the one I would have originally gone with, until I realised all the toggles from SR would probably cost a lot of endurance...
They are only 3 standard cost toggles though and you get the last one at 35 IIRC.
However my Dark/Dark scrapper had 3 standard cost toggles from level 10 ( which was too much ). He then got Cloak of Fear ( very cool, but very expensive ). Dark Regeneration is a very expensive clicky power too. So you'll be better off than my scrapper for endurance. I'm more convinced about getting Siphon Life now, a scrapper without a self heal doesn't last long.
Although without Dark Consumption, Soul Drain might be a pain.
@Unthing ... Mostly on Union.
Again speaking from a DM/DA scrappers view point DC is a must. I baiscally wait until im struggling for endurnace hit DC which renews my bar. When im starting to struggle again hit Conserve by the time that runs out DC is back up so basically near endless Endurance. I will add that I currently run 7 Toggles and only very rarly run out of endurance.
Mr Marvellous Scrapper is a Kat/SR scrapper and he pairs up with my DM/DA all the time. He's currently lvl 45 and he always has more enduarnce than me and very rearly struggles.
When he needs it he has taken conserve power from Body Mastery and with 3 reahcrges plus hasten and Quickness i think its has a 2min 15secs downtime.
Siphon life I have with my scrapper with 3 heal So's it gives roughly a 20% heal but the downside is it has to hit and it does have a 15 seconds recharge. It also is a little heavy on the endurance for what it actualy does but ive got it for concept and emergency reasons for when my main heal misses.
A much better choice imo for a SR Scrapper is Aid Self slotted with 3 heals and 2 interupts this gives a larger heal and with the interupts can be used under the effects of DOT damage, it also recharges quicker and does not need an accuracy check.
The draw back with this of course is that you have to take a power to get to it.
So after all that imo I would take Aid Self if you can drop another power to get it.
If that isnt possible I would go for DC as i dont think the heal in siphon will be reliable enough and up frequantly enough for you.
Hope this has being some help to you.
Siphon is a waste of time imo go for dark consumption, and try and get aid self. It might mean dropping a couple powers but most scrappers need a heal and soul drain would be hard to use without an end boost, and soul drain is a very useful power.
Reckon I could drop Hasten then? Or should I drop a passive from SR? Tell you what, I'll post the powers I want to take...
These aren't in the right order.
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Level: 50
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary: Dark Melee
Secondary: Super Reflexes
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01) --> Smite==> Empty(1)
01) --> Focused Fighting==> Empty(1)
02) --> Focused Senses==> Empty(2)
04) --> Agile==> Empty(4)
06) --> Shadow Maul==> Empty(6)
08) --> Touch of Fear==> Empty(8)
10) --> Practiced Brawler==> Empty(10)
12) --> Air Superiority==> Empty(12)
14) --> Fly==> Empty(14)
16) --> Dodge==> Empty(16)
18) --> Hasten==> Empty(18)
20) --> Quickness==> Empty(20)
22) --> Swift==> Empty(22)
24) --> Health==> Empty(24)
26) --> Soul Drain==> Empty(26)
28) --> Lucky==> Empty(28)
30) --> Stamina==> Empty(30)
32) --> Midnight Grasp==> Empty(32)
35) --> Evasion==> Empty(35)
38) --> Elude==> Empty(38)
41) --> Focused Accuracy==> Empty(41)
44) --> Laser Beam Eyes==> Empty(44)
47) --> Energy Torrent==> Empty(47)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Critical Hit==> Empty(1)
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I'd like to echo a few things that Miss said and comment from my own experiance.
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Mr Marvellous Scrapper is a Kat/SR scrapper and he pairs up with my DM/DA all the time. He's currently lvl 45 and he always has more enduarnce than me and very rearly struggles.
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To get that I have all of my shields 3 slotted for end red as well as 2 end reds split between 2 attacks (one in Soaring Dragon the other in Golden Dragonfly). I can keep going for a few mobs before needing to hit Concerve.
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A much better choice imo for a SR Scrapper is Aid Self
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Totally agree. You won't believe the amount of times this has saved my life.
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Personally I would drop this from your build. You don't need it, althought it is a help with DM you could slot a recharge in your powers. If you do take it you probably won't want to leave it on Auto since it is handy to have Practiced Brawler up all the time. 3 recrge will do that for you.
I would seriously consider droping Focused Accuracy, Laser Beam Eyes and Energy Torrent and getting Conserve Energy instead. That way you can afford to shiffle the rest of your powers around to fit Aid Self and Aid Other in.
You then have the choice with Hasten. Either keep it or drop it in favour of FA.
As well as this, you only have 3 "traditional" attacks. I would take them as soon as you can and slot them up, but that's just me 
But I wouldn't drop a passive. They all stack and even though the passives only give you 10% base defence (IIRC) it's MUCH better than nothing.
I only took my first passive recently (I'm getting them instead of epics) and it has made a huge difference already.
Yes, LBE isn't meant to be in there. It's meant to be conserve energy. Thanks for the advice, I think I'll drop Hasten then.
Have both Siphon Life and Dark Consumption, I dont use Siphon life and it's going in the next respec, Dark Consuption is essential for me, mostly now for a quick recovery from elude but was still damn handy before that
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They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Yargh, decisions decisions.
To be fair I dont have Conserve Power, so maybe with CP......
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
Yes - the only problem I have with that is the fact that I don't get it until 44.
*L* Yeah when I got to 41 I though "I dont need Conserve Power after all" and went Dark epic instead, its a late level for endurance problems to be solved. Maybe a respec when you get it? I think aid self would be better than Siphon Life if you're going to take a self heal (I just carry greens and try to not get hit, they activate sooo much faster than siphon life does and dont have to hit anything to work. Dont need any other insps thanks to my other powers)
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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Yeah when I got to 41 I though "I dont need Conserve Power after all"
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Actually, I got to 38 and all of a sudden started having End problems again, but only when Elude dropped and I needed to back Miss up. I find that if you hit a few CABs and then CP you don't have those end problems and it doesn't require you to hit enemies. Miss uses a combo of the two just to keep going (she's DM/DA) but you'll only need to run 3 toggles and a clicky. The overall END usage is greatly reduced.
Appart from that, the fitness pool and my travel pool it is the only power I have not in my primary or secondary. This has enableled me to take all of the passives as well as the toggles and the majority of my primary pool as well. I know you miss out on the 'fun' of the Epic pools but you can live without ranged attacks.
Slotting your shields for end redux (and with Stamina as well) will help ALOT.
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...for a DM/SR scrapper?
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I took both on Late and wouldn't be without either. By the very late game DC is probably the less useful of the two for me (I have Conserve power as well) but it's a nice way to pick myself up after Elude.
Although Aid Self is nice, you should also bear in mind that Soul Drain will also be contributing a 5% ToHit debuff (like your other attacks) which also contributes a fair bit to survivability. For most (all?) other secondaries I'd skip SD, but with SR it works very well - I picked it as soon as it was available and never looked back (slotting 2xAcc, 3xHeal, 1xEndRed).
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...for a DM/SR scrapper?
[/ QUOTE ]Although Aid Self is nice, you should also bear in mind that Soul Drain will also be contributing a 5% ToHit debuff (like your other attacks) which also contributes a fair bit to survivability. For most (all?) other secondaries I'd skip SD, but with SR it works very well - I picked it as soon as it was available and never looked back (slotting 2xAcc, 3xHeal, 1xEndRed).
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I assume you mean Siphon Life?
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...for a DM/SR scrapper?
[/ QUOTE ]Although Aid Self is nice, you should also bear in mind that Soul Drain will also be contributing a 5% ToHit debuff (like your other attacks) which also contributes a fair bit to survivability. For most (all?) other secondaries I'd skip SD, but with SR it works very well - I picked it as soon as it was available and never looked back (slotting 2xAcc, 3xHeal, 1xEndRed).
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I assume you mean Siphon Life?
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You assume right 
The rest should make sense, though...
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i say siphon life if your a rgn and dark consumption if your going with sr or da
I am planning to take Dark Consumption. Question: Do I need stamina if I get DC at level 18?
DC has looong recharge, stamina is still a must, unless you're regen.
Even if I put an endred in attacks and stuff?
Actually, i find i dont use DC very much at all. Then again i only ever use 2 attacks and 2 toggles
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I am planning to take Dark Consumption. Question: Do I need stamina if I get DC at level 18?
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You can afford to put it off a bit (I took it at 30) but you'll probably still want it. With Quickness, Hasten and recharges of its own DC is up often enough to get you by without Stamina - the problem is that when your End is low there usually aren't many enemies left. That means aggroing a new group to fill up your End - which is a little risky but worked OK for me.
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...for a DM/SR scrapper?