we could argue all night long, but my opinion is still that the other nukes are better [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] feel free to convince anyone else otherwise [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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we could argue all night long, but my opinion is still that the other nukes are better [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] feel free to convince anyone else otherwise [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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See now if you'd said that originally i wouldn't have felt the need to correct you. Just stating that something is **** is an entirely different statement to saying you think blizzard is not as good as teh others.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry when i see statements like this.
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Blizzard is king. Ive only ever died once from its use, because the fear effect from ice storm (used prior to stop things running out of blizzard) and the hefty knockdown from blizzard basically stops anything hurting me.
BU+AIM+Blizzard is THE most damaging nuke in the game and It isn't hard to tap into the full damage provided by the nuke.
Of course. YMMV.
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BU+AIM+Blizzard is THE most damaging nuke in the game and It isn't hard to tap into the full damage provided by the nuke.
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BU+AIM+Blizzard is THE most damaging nuke in the game
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This is simply false. It MIGHT be true if you gained the damage buff for the entire duration of the nuke, but you don't. So an instant damage nuke with aim+build up will always outdamage a DoT nuke with aim+build up.
The only advantage of Blizzard over other nukes is that it's not affected by AoE limits.
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BU+AIM+Blizzard is THE most damaging nuke in the game
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This is simply false. It MIGHT be true if you gained the damage buff for the entire duration of the nuke, but you don't. So an instant damage nuke with aim+build up will always outdamage a DoT nuke with aim+build up.
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Want to check the normalised damage scalars and get back to me on that one?
Blizzard. Damage - 7.45 Accuracy - 2
Inferno. Damage - 4.875 Accuracy - 1.4
It is not simply false. Its fact. BU+AIM works for about 9seconds of the duration, true enough, but the for the unbuffed portion, you are still talking about a nuke that is over 40% more damaging unbuffed. Compare 2 fulcrum shifted nukes and then Blizzard is clearly, unquestionably, the most damaging.
Any nuke that can kill freaks twice in 1 application gets my vote. Kill, rez, kill ftw.
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The only advantage of Blizzard over other nukes is that it's not affected by AoE limits.
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... and that is just the icing on a very nice cake.
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Want to check the normalised damage scalars and get back to me on that one?
Blizzard. Damage - 7.45 Accuracy - 2
Inferno. Damage - 4.875 Accuracy - 1.4
It is not simply false. Its fact. BU+AIM works for about 9seconds of the duration, true enough, but the for the unbuffed portion, you are still talking about a nuke that is over 40% more damaging unbuffed. Compare 2 fulcrum shifted nukes and then Blizzard is clearly, unquestionably, the most damaging.
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That's all nice and all, but it simply doesn't work like that in practice. You can't get 9 seconds of Aim and Build up out of Blizzard, as the animation is already 2 seconds. So you get 8 seconds if you can drop aim+build at the same time, which is not possible. Then you still need to target. So I'd say 6 seconds of buff total, maybe seven if you're really quick. If you calculate that in, Blizzard will most likely not be as damaging as you think, but it all really depends on how much time you can get out of the damage buff.
Also, Blizzard is still DoT, so that means that mobs will regen during the time it's active, maybe even use a self heal, or healing aura. While this doesn't lower the damage done, it does however increase their survivability. Burst damage is much more useful in pratice.
Now I will agree that, if you have like a /Kin troller backing you up, Blizzard can be awesome with Fulcrum Shift, but I never questioned that.
I miss the Pre Ed Blizzard. That actually could be awesome at times.
Infact Mesmer, my appologies. You are correct. Did some maths.
50% Damage Insp->Aim->BU->Blizzard outperforms 50% Damage Insp->Aim->BU->Inferno
Long winded maths here:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/uk/sh...&Number=615859
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cry because it's true. it's a lot worse then the other nukes, and that is a fact.
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I think you should check the actual figures before posting. Perhaps even engage your brain too.
The unslotted damage of blizzard is nearly double that of any other nuke. Now that's a fact.
Check it here. Clicky
It's posts like yours that give the impression of actuality without backing things up that give unfavourable impressions of powers that are infact wildly innacurate. Hopefully though, most people don't actually take any notice.
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he IS right tho..the highest damage doesn't mean the best nuke. For a blapper you need HIGH dps. Not a placable nuke which isn't to hard to dodge if you are fast. In pve I bet its nice. Or in base raids. But arena/zone pvp I would take any nuke over blizzard.
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cry because it's true. it's a lot worse then the other nukes, and that is a fact.
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I think you should check the actual figures before posting. Perhaps even engage your brain too.
The unslotted damage of blizzard is nearly double that of any other nuke. Now that's a fact.
Check it here. Clicky
It's posts like yours that give the impression of actuality without backing things up that give unfavourable impressions of powers that are infact wildly innacurate. Hopefully though, most people don't actually take any notice.
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he IS right tho..the highest damage doesn't mean the best nuke. For a blapper you need HIGH dps. Not a placable nuke which isn't to hard to dodge if you are fast. In pve I bet its nice. Or in base raids. But arena/zone pvp I would take any nuke over blizzard.
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He is right that blizzard is a it was put...****??? I think this has been proved otherwise above.
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Not a placable nuke which isn't to hard to dodge if you are fast
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This is a ludicrous statement to make. How can you tell when or where the blizzard is going to be placed? Are you watching for the blizzard animation 'all' the time??? Unless you have a kin around or are SR you aren't going to excape it. Another throw away statement in this thread. *sigh*
yay i can turn on super jump and basicly escape it.
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yay i can turn on super jump and basicly escape it.
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There is that too.
or i can turn on fly, ss or even tp. but sj and tp is the fastest escape [img]/uk/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I only use it againt masterminds in PvP. Most of which do not have KB res. Its one way around bodyguard and one time you will be happy about the duration of Blizzard because it is hilarious to watch.
''Are you watching for the blizzard animation 'all' the time??? ''
no..like most people say...travel power ftw to dodge it.
And as second comment. Are you gonna stand still in pvp all the time?..I guess not..Yes you will probaly hit someone a bit with it. But not far as much as you could with powers as thunderous blast or nova.
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this is where he was right in...pvp wise..
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And you should know that such language is not allowed on these boards.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry when i see statements like this.
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Please don't quote posts that break the board rules.
That's where tactics (use and run out of sight???!?!?), use of other powers etc comes into play. You gain aggro with all the other nukes too and there is no guarantee that you will one shot everything. And with all but TB you will be right in the middle of an angry mob, who if a few levels higher will ALL still be standing.