Electric Secondary sinergy
kin/elec does mesh well but I think a lot of people agree that Kins can be quite hard to solo...
I would make a storm/electric
Then you get to pick two fab sets that aren't available in CoV
+ Points
storm is very offensive
easy to solo
so many toys!
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heavy endurance use
hard to see your own costume once you have all your toggles up and running
I already have an illusion/storm troller (sitting at lvl 30 currently) who I really enjoy playing. Not sure I would roll another stormie though.
My thoughts behind possibly choosing kinetics was that I can use syphon power (and eventually fulcrum shift) to boost my damage output. Why is it considered hard to solo a kin? I would have thought this was a more solo-friendlu choice?
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My thoughts behind possibly choosing kinetics was that I can use syphon power (and eventually fulcrum shift) to boost my damage output. Why is it considered hard to solo a kin? I would have thought this was a more solo-friendlu choice?
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that's what I thought with mine too... but out of all my defenders my kinetics is the hardest to solo (even my empath feels easier some times).
I think the main problem is that as a kinetics you need to run into the mob and play more in melee range rather than from range... and as a defender you don't really have the HPs to survive being hit on the head, repeatedly, with three hammers at a time.
Plus, as everyone knows, when you most need your buffs to hit, they miss. At least with Empath/Rad you can heal yourself whenever you want...
Saying all that, Kinetics is a very fun primary to have, and when you do get teams you will have much fun Soloing will be doable - particularly with the end drain from your secondary - just think it will be slower than storm
I do plan to team as much as possible, I just don't want to be one of those defenders that when they can't find a team have to stand around twiddling their thumbs. Are there any good primaries I'm overlooking?
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I do plan to team as much as possible, I just don't want to be one of those defenders that when they can't find a team have to stand around twiddling their thumbs. Are there any good primaries I'm overlooking?
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Dark perhaps.
Tar patch for -res ( better than +dam IMO ) and slow, Darkest night for protection ( -dam -acc ). Fearsome Stare for soft control and -acc. Shadowfall for resistance ( E/N ) and stealth. Howling Twilight for hard control ( disrorient ). I think with Short Circuit and Ball Lightning you should be able to take care of most minions. You get a hold which you can stack with Tesla Cage on Bosses.
But then I love my Dark Corruptor so much...
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I do plan to team as much as possible, I just don't want to be one of those defenders that when they can't find a team have to stand around twiddling their thumbs. Are there any good primaries I'm overlooking?
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Dark perhaps.
Tar patch for -res ( better than +dam IMO ) and slow, Darkest night for protection ( -dam -acc ). Fearsome Stare for soft control and -acc. Shadowfall for resistance ( E/N ) and stealth. Howling Twilight for hard control ( disrorient ). I think with Short Circuit and Ball Lightning you should be able to take care of most minions. You get a hold which you can stack with Tesla Cage on Bosses.
But then I love my Dark Corruptor so much...
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heh that sounds like a fun character. Never really tried dark but sounds tempting...
The only other kinda vague possibility would be Trick Arrow I suppose, but I would have thought taking your bow out and putting it away again as you swap between primary and secondary would start to get tiresome very quickly...
For one, don't take storm, even though it's a great set it has zero synergy with elec (no, the drain of the cloud doesn't count )
Dark has a hold to stack with it, but that's about it.
Empathy...does it have synergy with anything?
FF.....not much to see here.
Kinetics, Definitely good synergy with all the endurance draining. Just find an ice tank to team with and nothing will have End
Rad... CC is a hold, EMP has hold and some end drain, that's about it.
Sonic....nothing really.
TA has hold, endurance drain, and the elec will light up oil slick...Weapon drawing can be nasty tho'.
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Dark has a hold to stack with it, but that's about it.
Rad... CC is a hold, EMP has hold and some end drain, that's about it.
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The big advantage both Dark and Rad bring with them is a -ToHit toggle that will allow you to get in close enough to use Short Circuit on a regular basis - the big factor lacking from Kinetics, although of course a team compensates for that well. That's great for End draining, and you also have two decent AoE attacks available instead of just Ball Lightning the two of them do very close to the same damage, so slotting SC 3xDam,3xEndDrain will leave you with a nice damaging AoE attack chain. Rad works especially well here as the -Def from Rad Infection gives you even more excuse not to slot SC for Accuracy (it doesn't need it anyway, though...)
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For one, don't take storm, even though it's a great set it has zero synergy with elec (no, the drain of the cloud doesn't count )
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I don't agree. Both are energy based damage so you will get bonuses on the same mobs from your lightning storm and your blasts. Also the fire and forget nature of voltaic sentinel meshes very well with the fire and forget lightning storm, both your two biggest sources of damage over time and fantastic damage per unit endurance. Also it has a snipe, which is easy as pie to work into your attack chain as the mobs are accuracy debuffed and bobbing about on the edge of your hurricane. You don't get interrupted if something attacks you, only if it hits you.
The only thing I can see that doesn't have great synergy is that short circuit is pbaoe and you don't want to be running up to mobs that are not accuracy debuffed to use it and your accuracy debuff comes from hurricane. I didnt' take it for this reason but I took charged bolts, lightning bolt, ball lightning, zapp, voltaic sentinel and thunderous blast and find it a great set for a stormie. I might work in Aim on the next respec to use with the nuke.
Currently playing a Rad/Elec defender. only lvl 7 so it may not count but I am having the most fun with this alt that I have had with any hero alt. I have not done one mission or teamed at all with it yet so cant comment on how effective it is for that but for sheer joy it cannot be beaten as far as I am concerned. For the last level I have been living in the hollows dropping Ri and EF on a mob of outcasts and then vapourising them with use of ball lightning.
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For the last level I have been living in the hollows dropping Ri and EF on a mob of outcasts and then vapourising them with use of ball lightning.
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Since you're level 7, try going to Perez Park to hunt Skulls instead. The are already weak against energy damage (Elec Blast deals energy damage) and they come in decent sized groups, sometimes pure minions, around the Galaxy City gate.
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For one, don't take storm, even though it's a great set it has zero synergy with elec (no, the drain of the cloud doesn't count )
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I don't agree. Both are energy based damage so you will get bonuses on the same mobs from your lightning storm and your blasts. Also the fire and forget nature of voltaic sentinel meshes very well with the fire and forget lightning storm, both your two biggest sources of damage over time and fantastic damage per unit endurance. Also it has a snipe, which is easy as pie to work into your attack chain as the mobs are accuracy debuffed and bobbing about on the edge of your hurricane. You don't get interrupted if something attacks you, only if it hits you.
The only thing I can see that doesn't have great synergy is that short circuit is pbaoe and you don't want to be running up to mobs that are not accuracy debuffed to use it and your accuracy debuff comes from hurricane. I didnt' take it for this reason but I took charged bolts, lightning bolt, ball lightning, zapp, voltaic sentinel and thunderous blast and find it a great set for a stormie. I might work in Aim on the next respec to use with the nuke.
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Without wanting to be too picky, the above quote wasn't from me, it was from MaX
By my 50s shall ye know me:
Tundra, DVM, The Late, Neutrino Ghost, Sir Clanksalot, End Of Days, Prof. Migraine
Howler Monkey
I know, I was disagreeing with Max.
Since when was having only one damage type deemed a good thing? If lightning storm and elec have the same damage type, when you go up against energy resistant mobs you're buggered.
I'd go TA or Kin, kin would be the more challenging one and save on pools (don't need a travel, or stamina if you use transference well), and TA would be (IMO) most fun.
Oil slick-Fulcrum shift-thunderous blast.
Burn! BUUUUURN!
One damage type is never a bright idea. Although storm and electric secondary might be thematically fitting I would not base any synergy on them being both energy damage.
However, as a defender it is always nice but not really necessary to bring some damage. So, although you would definitely not be a decent damage dealer against energy resistent mobs, storm/elec would be fitting combo.
But for great gameplay synergy I would always recommend kinetics. This would also be thematically fitting since you most certainly would be lightning fast... and since you have played corruptors before it will more easily fit your playstyle than pseudo-pet-heavy storm.
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
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For the last level I have been living in the hollows dropping Ri and EF on a mob of outcasts and then vapourising them with use of ball lightning.
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Since you're level 7, try going to Perez Park to hunt Skulls instead. The are already weak against energy damage (Elec Blast deals energy damage) and they come in decent sized groups, sometimes pure minions, around the Galaxy City gate.
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After I hit lvl 8 today I went into Perez and by attacking groups of skulls with no bosses in I was quite safe assuming I did act a complete idiot and kill my anchor first. I was quite happily gaining half a bar per spawn when fighting either -1's or even level minions. I could even take out the small groups of 1 boss + 2 lt's or 2 bosses provided they were - 1 to me (even level bosses hurt too much with only 2 attacks). So I have now found my favourite zone for the next 4 levels or so.
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One damage type is never a bright idea.
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Err, could you be more offensive? Especially when you then go on to describe a combo that has only elec damage in it, like almost every */elec combo you could pick.
In my quiet time I solo now and then in Crey's and hunt Freaks. My lightning storm (a huge source of aoe damage if used correctly, especially for a defender) and elec blasts both get a bonus. That's great synergy from where I'm standing and it's just me so I can pick and choose what I want to hunt to pass the time.
In a team.. does anyone honestly care what damage type each team member has vs the mobs you're fighting? I've never once heard anyone make a comment like that, or pick someone for a team based on their damage type.
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Whats all this talk of synergy ?? its alabout whats fun to play not what has the best mathematical change.. besides Rad/Rad is the only sets that work
I've recently rerolled my main as a dark/elec defender and I can honestly say it's proving to be great fun. Dark has some great holds and debuffs and elec is good for taking mobs' endurance away from them. I'm hoping that when I get onto some tougher bosses I'll be able to ensure that they have neither the strength to attack or the accuracy to be able to hit if they do.
One of the reasons I chose the combination is so that I don't have a single-energy type output. For example, I noticed that some robot-type groups are resistant to fear but elec will have more of an effect on them.
The only thing I'm not sure about is what attacks to take from elec as it's my first time out with this power set (too many good ones to grab from dark!)
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My Kin/Elec Defender is soon to hit level 30, being a late bloomer, he's weak damage wise. But really, transference IS THE BOMB. And I can't wait until I can pick up fulcrum shift.
Short Circuit - slot it for as much End Reduction as you can, this'll be your main attack. :P Use Transference as well to drain more end, all my attacks have at least one slot in them for End Drain.
Kinetics is a late bloomer, but really, in a team earlier today. My team were whooping at me because I was, well, tanking. If you can team up with another Elec-based blaster or defender, Short Circuit means that all enemies are drained from their Endurance when you both set SC off. No endurance for the enemies means they can't attack you! Kin/Elec is very fun to play and can be soloed in the late 20's, definately.
Agree completely with Laustin. Kin / elec is a load of fun.
Once you get Transference you can slow slowly but steadily. You tend to grind them down as they stand there looking at you with no End but you get there. Fulcrum might help with this (don't have it yet, darned Altitis).
In teams you will be worshipped as a demigod. My fav thing to see in a team is a Kinetics Defender, regardless of who I'm playing.
The other great thing about Kin / Elec is the build flexibility. You can forego stamina & a travel pool power if you like and mess about with other powers. You should get Haste though, just for the stacked +recharge you can get going with Siphon Speed. Which you get at level 6. The Hollows was never so much fun to get around!
Hey all, I really enjoy corruptors on CoV so thought I would have another shot at a defender (I used to play a empathy/rad blast back in I5). I would like to try a /Elec as this is something not available in CoV. What primaries go well with this? I would like to be quite offensive, and would like to be able to solo if needed. I have experience with dark, rad and kinetics (from corruptors) and was thinking maybe kinetics/elec, do these sets mesh well, and will I be able to create an offensive toon?