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What level is this btw? I'm at 41, would be awesome to get the badge while you're fighting...er...faceplant for you.
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45+... read the guides please.
A Paragon Defender
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As an invunerable scrapper I light up brighter than a christmas tree with all my toggles on and I'm sure there's other builds out there with powers that could look like if not over power costume auras.Is it me or does it sound silly for you guys to ask peeps to remove auras from cossies they are happy with then hassle them because they haven't?I'm sure the last time hammi was killed there were peeps with capes in the pics. Do you really want to squash the freedom of people who want to join but don't want to lose their auras or capes?
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Ok this is 100th time this comes up so lets set it straight why lag is such an issue from capes and auras etc.
First of all the organisers of the raid dont have any intention to play god almighty uppon others by asking them to remove the capes.If it was up to them they would prolly say to come dressed as a christmas tree and lighten up the Hive. Unfortunately the server has major issues with thoughts like this.
Secondly the organisers certainly appreciate the usage of FS,lightning storm,darkest night,shields,toggles,novas,taunts,aoe etc etc but certainly have a good grasp of how USELESS these are during the raid due to the special nature of Hami and the Efficiency/lag ratio (for FS). So when someone asks to stop the FS or any powers is not because he is ignorant or a some new guy but apparently cause he knows there is issue with this power being used plus its USELESS.
Finally the whole lag issue and the effort to decrease it as much as possible is simple. During the hold phase its utterly CRUCIAL to have the best update possible regarding the progression of Hami's lifebar and to manage the Vanguards at best possible way.Every little effort regarding lag helps in this believe me.There has been a raid where the use of Vanguard was delayed due to lag issue based on the Hami hp bar and the mitos spawned.
So what do we learn?
This is always a community effort.Work all together and we stand a chance. Once the famous "I" comes into play then its all gone to the Americans. Thats the lesson i ve learned at least from all raids i ve been in and organised or led.
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Good guide for the people who never done this before TG
Im back so Ill swing by for this one.
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What level is this btw? I'm at 41, would be awesome to get the badge while you're fighting...er...faceplant for you.
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45+... read the guides please.
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Thanks. Was 5 mins before work, so quick question pwnz guides, ta.
First time for everything. Count me in. 
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Personally I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice to go back to a pre-level 20 costume.
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This is all well and fine if u haven't altered your pre lvl 20 cossie. My guy being a robot always seemed to have something missing then I got the auras and now I have the same star burst glow eyes on all my cossie. It makes my character look alive, like you can see more into him throw his eyes now and I don't really want to lose the effect.
I've read the guide and don't get me wrong I'm all up for having a plan but you keep using this will cause lag and that will.... but surely all these little bits is nothing compared to the lag thats going to be cause by the number of peeps who turn up. I mean the guide is partically saying if you have kinetic powers don't bother turning up. Next you'll be updating the guide to exculde people with extra effects to their powers like fire, ice and energy.Will you also be telling Peacebringers and Warshades that have been built to regularly use nova and dwarf forms not to use them?(I didn't see that in the guide)What next, tell everyone who isn't in commanding roles not to talk because speach bubbles cause lag? I'm sure a bucket load of illusion controllers summoning their isn't going to crash the servers and, cause lag cause it not in the guide, but someone with a cape will??
Also why does it have to be game over when the yellow things appear?Why hasn't your guide got a part that deals with these instead just laying down and not bothering?If your are roleplaying then a hero would be willing to put his/her life on the line no matter the odds and no matter how hopless it looks but you say just to give up?? Thats not very heroic.
If this is a community thing surely you should be encouraging people to turn up and not turning them away because they don't fit in to your plan? Do you even think about the rest of the community below lvl 45? I used to get really laggy when a raid was on and I was no where near the hive. Then of cousre theres this conga line I've heard about, something once again cause lag and which will affect those of us not taking part in the raid.The community is EVERYONE not just those who do what you tell them too. If you think the community is just your little group going to fight a big old blob then well done, you're starting your own little dictatorship.
Last two points:
1) If you guys do see someone with an aura and/or cape and you guys keep sending him tells to change their cossie and they don't and you keep sending them tells till they leave, either changed or not returnin, aren't you technacally bullying that person?
2)You said you'd be checking eveyones costumes before you go into the hive. If you see heroes with capes and/or auras will you be turning them away, denying the chance to fight hammi, excluding them from this gathering of the community and banning them from entering the hive?
What is your problem Maximus_Prime? Have you ever been to a Hamidon raid? Do you know how much lag every player is getting?
You do know that lag is the primary reason to us failling every time?
Everyone makes sacrifises at a Hamidon raid, if you dont we fail. Yeah sure, we could have everyone doing what ever they would like, but then you will have 100+ heroes wasting 2 hrs.
I seriously dont understand you man.
PS. Kinetics should speedboost everyone in sight. This will keep them more than busy.
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It costs you no money to remove your cape and your aura, and as I've already said I have offered to GIVE you money to put it back if it's really that important to you and you can't afford it.
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Plus I think there are free tailor sessions coming again soon because of the troubles /cov bug caused?
Hamidon Raid is organised to everyones benefit, not just yours.
The strategies are compiled from the experiences of numerous raids here and in US.
If you think it could be done better, you're free to organize your own raid.
I used to get really laggy when a raid was on and I was no where near the hive.
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Dont see how that can be, As all the zones are different servers..
But still, I dont see how hard it is just to change your costume just for one thing...
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I used to get really laggy when a raid was on and I was no where near the hive.
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Dont see how that can be, As all the zones are different servers..
But still, I dont see how hard it is just to change your costume just for one thing...
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The zones are all on the same server? If 250 people in The Hive are lagging one zone, it may well have an effect on the whole server - it's all off the same bandwidth after all.
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Personally I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice to go back to a pre-level 20 costume.
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This is all well and fine if u haven't altered your pre lvl 20 cossie. My guy being a robot always seemed to have something missing then I got the auras and now I have the same star burst glow eyes on all my cossie. It makes my character look alive, like you can see more into him throw his eyes now and I don't really want to lose the effect.
I've read the guide and don't get me wrong I'm all up for having a plan but you keep using this will cause lag and that will.... but surely all these little bits is nothing compared to the lag thats going to be cause by the number of peeps who turn up. I mean the guide is partically saying if you have kinetic powers don't bother turning up. Next you'll be updating the guide to exculde people with extra effects to their powers like fire, ice and energy.Will you also be telling Peacebringers and Warshades that have been built to regularly use nova and dwarf forms not to use them?(I didn't see that in the guide)What next, tell everyone who isn't in commanding roles not to talk because speach bubbles cause lag? I'm sure a bucket load of illusion controllers summoning their isn't going to crash the servers and, cause lag cause it not in the guide, but someone with a cape will??
Also why does it have to be game over when the yellow things appear?Why hasn't your guide got a part that deals with these instead just laying down and not bothering?If your are roleplaying then a hero would be willing to put his/her life on the line no matter the odds and no matter how hopless it looks but you say just to give up?? Thats not very heroic.
If this is a community thing surely you should be encouraging people to turn up and not turning them away because they don't fit in to your plan? Do you even think about the rest of the community below lvl 45? I used to get really laggy when a raid was on and I was no where near the hive. Then of cousre theres this conga line I've heard about, something once again cause lag and which will affect those of us not taking part in the raid.The community is EVERYONE not just those who do what you tell them too. If you think the community is just your little group going to fight a big old blob then well done, you're starting your own little dictatorship.
Last two points:
1) If you guys do see someone with an aura and/or cape and you guys keep sending him tells to change their cossie and they don't and you keep sending them tells till they leave, either changed or not returnin, aren't you technacally bullying that person?
2)You said you'd be checking eveyones costumes before you go into the hive. If you see heroes with capes and/or auras will you be turning them away, denying the chance to fight hammi, excluding them from this gathering of the community and banning them from entering the hive?
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I have one thing to say to this entire post:
Get a clue.
Thx.
If you've never been on a Hammi raid (very very likely going by some of your statements) then come along and see exactly why recommendations laid out in the guide are laid out in the guide.
Plans like this have been running since CoH was released in the EU (and US) and has been refined over time.
Trust me, the person who wrote this guide (along with all the other guides to Hammi raids that have been posted up here for previous raids) knows exactly what they're talking about.
All these recommendations are to remove as much lag as possible for EVERYONE: Those on the raid, and those not.
How the hell can you complain about that?
But the actual zones are different machines. Otherwise if one zone crashed, they all would surely?
I can't see them wasting one machine on say Atlas Park surely?
If so, no wonder the subs are so high!
I can, much higher population than most zones normally.
Dunno, the Hollows are usually pretty busy. Or at least they have been since I've been re-doing the arc there with my BS scrapper.
WOW! Max, you are really not feeling this whole "community event" thing at all are you? Do you think that the organisers are just saying things for the sake of it? Or perhaps somewhere, deep down, they are doing their best to make sure the raid succeeds for everyone?
May be you are just trolling........... 
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WOW! Max, you are really not feeling this whole "community event" thing at all are you? Do you think that the organisers are just saying things for the sake of it? Or perhaps somewhere, deep down, they are doing their best to make sure the raid succeeds for everyone?
May be you are just trolling...........
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I hope you all do well, I'm just expressing my opinion is that wrong? Yes I haven't been on a raid and I don't plan to, if I do have a problem with this it's still the last two points of my last post that no one has anwsered.
1) If you see someone during the raid who has a cape and/or aura and you send them tells to change their cossie and they don't so you keep sending tells till they leave ( to change cossie or not to return) isn't that bullying?
2)If you do see someone waiting out side the hive with a cape and/or aura will you be telling them not to enter and denying them access to explore this zone if they had never been there?
Ok I've rephrased the points.
LOL me controlling, I'm just asking things I'm not the one tellings peeps what they can and can't do.
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This is all well and fine if u haven't altered your pre lvl 20 cossie. My guy being a robot always seemed to have something missing then I got the auras and now I have the same star burst glow eyes on all my cossie. It makes my character look alive, like you can see more into him throw his eyes now and I don't really want to lose the effect.
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It is free to remove your cape and aura at icon. If you are that bothered I have already said that I will GIVE you money. If you REALLY cannot be bothered to walk to the icon in founders, I'll get one of my teammates to TELEPORT you there. Hell, if I could I'd take your character there and do it for you.
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I've read the guide and don't get me wrong I'm all up for having a plan but you keep using this will cause lag and that will.... but surely all these little bits is nothing compared to the lag thats going to be cause by the number of peeps who turn up.
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Yes, the lag caused by 100 or so people turning up is pretty bad when they don't have capes or auras. Can you imagine 100 people who are wearing capes and auras? For some people this will make the raid into nothing but a slide-show, which will stop them from enjoying it. The primary reason we do this is to have fun. That means that EVERYONE should be able to take part to the maximum.
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I mean the guide is partically saying if you have kinetic powers don't bother turning up.
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No, the guide is saying that if you have kinetic powers, can you please refrain from using them unless they're called "Speed Boost". The reason for this is because kinetics has insane flashy AoE effects, particularly in Fulcrum Shift. Fulcrum Shift causes people to crash when it's overused on normal, instanced missions (hello Stark!). Can you imagine what it'll be like when it's hitting 80+ people doing mito clearing? Bang, and the zone is gooooooooone.
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Next you'll be updating the guide to exculde people with extra effects to their powers like fire, ice and energy.Will you also be telling Peacebringers and Warshades that have been built to regularly use nova and dwarf forms not to use them?(I didn't see that in the guide)What next, tell everyone who isn't in commanding roles not to talk because speach bubbles cause lag?
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You and I both know this point is stupid.
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I'm sure a bucket load of illusion controllers summoning their isn't going to crash the servers and, cause lag cause it not in the guide, but someone with a cape will??
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Well, we need the PA drop or everyone dies. Also, if you'd noticed, PA are white with practically no detail. They are unbelievably easy on the graphics settings, so they aren't going to be doing any crashing.
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Also why does it have to be game over when the yellow things appear?Why hasn't your guide got a part that deals with these instead just laying down and not bothering?
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Well, if you're willing to get 60 or 70 people to spend 10+ hours clearing them all, you're quite welcome to. I for one can't be bothered.
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If your are roleplaying
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But I'm not.
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a hero would be willing to put his/her life on the line no matter the odds and no matter how hopless it looks but you say just to give up??
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Yes. Read what I wrote above. If you're willing to put in the obscene amount of time it takes, you're welcome to do so. Nobody is stopping you.
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Thats not very heroic.
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No, but this is, at the end of the day, a game. People do have real lives to go back to, and I'm sure the don't want to spend all night clearing Mitos just so the zone can crash. Especially on a sunday night, if they have work on monday morning.
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If this is a community thing surely you should be encouraging people to turn up and not turning them away because they don't fit in to your plan?
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I'm not turning them away. At what point in the guide did I write "Don't come if...."? I'm saying "Please make an effort to ensure that everyone can do a lag-free job". I don't think thats unreasonable.
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Do you even think about the rest of the community below lvl 45?
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Do you know that anyone under level 45 can't get into the hive? Yes, it's not good that they can't take part. I have many friends who don't have 45+ toons, but I'm afraid that's just the way the game has been made.
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Nothing to do with the raid. As Xironia said, each zone is on a different server, hence why the entire server doesn't crash each time the hive crashes.
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Then of cousre theres this conga line I've heard about, something once again cause lag and which will affect those of us not taking part in the raid.
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Nothing to do with me. I haven't written "Form a big conga line and run around spamming powers so that it gives all those pre-45 buggers as much lag as we just had to put up with". Besides which, it's no different to when the PvP zones get popular with one main difference: Everyone in the Conga line is wearing a raid costume.
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The community is EVERYONE not just those who do what you tell them too. If you think the community is just your little group going to fight a big old blob then well done, you're starting your own little dictatorship.
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No, but this raid requires extreme co-ordination. The best way to co-ordinate 100+ people is with one person giving orders. It works in the US, it's worked here in the past. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Last two points:
1) If you guys do see someone with an aura and/or cape and you guys keep sending him tells to change their cossie and they don't and you keep sending them tells till they leave, either changed or not returnin, aren't you technacally bullying that person?
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Who said we were going to do that? I was going to politely point out to them that it's free to remove a cape and aura from a costume, and that I'd quite happily lend them some influence to replace the costume parts after the raid if they had been running in SG mode and therefore didn't have the cash to put the parts back themselves.
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2)You said you'd be checking eveyones costumes before you go into the hive. If you see heroes with capes and/or auras will you be turning them away, denying the chance to fight hammi, excluding them from this gathering of the community and banning them from entering the hive?
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Well, we can't stop them from going in. I'll just make it very very clear that by not changing they're letting everyone else down.
Last two points:
1. If you think you can run a hamidon raid better, you do it. I'll turn up to see how many people come along to take part, but I bet it'll be very few.
2. Please please make an effort to learn about a subject before making a long winded post about it. Many of things you questioned are either impossible to do, or impossible to do without. You'd know that if you'd either been to a Hamidon raid or read up about them.
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1) If you see someone during the raid who has a cape and/or aura and you send them tells to change their cossie and they don't so you keep sending tells till they leave ( to change cossie or not to return) isn't that bullying?
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Not in my opinion, youre free to /ignore the poster in question, but if one person behaves stupidly during a raid he is most likely to get abuse from much more people than just the organizers. How about the 75+ people (french had in excess of 200 people last raid iirc) in the hive at that point. If youre willing to give that sort of reputation to yourself, youre free to do so. I'd advise against it though. The organizers already risk it making themselves prime targets for abuse, so Id give them some slack.
And there are much much worse things you can do to sabotage the event than wear a cape. People who complain about capes in this manner are more likely to do something else stupid, this is just how it is. Lets say that even if youre free to express your opinions, there are intelligent opinions and less intelligent opinions, and lets face it, your post could have been better worded. Hence the response like it was. Plus this has been discussed zillion times before.
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2)If you do see someone waiting out side the hive with a cape and/or aura will you be telling them not to enter and denying them access to explore this zone if they had never been there?
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LOL me controlling, I'm just asking things I'm not the one tellings peeps what they can and can't do.
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"Trolling" meant a slightly different thing in this case..
It means to purposefully and repeatedly post pointless and degenerative things to a thread.
I hope you dont get my meaning wrong, but you must understand that common endeavour of this magnitude will require sacrifices on everyones part.
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Go on a raid, then make a comment, constructive or otherwise
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1) If you see someone during the raid who has a cape and/or aura and you send them tells to change their cossie and they don't so you keep sending tells till they leave ( to change cossie or not to return) isn't that bullying?
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Not at all. People will be asked to remove the cape and the aura, if they don't then that's up to them. However I for one will not be shy in letting them know that they are letting the side down. I wouldn't call this bullying.
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2)If you do see someone waiting out side the hive with a cape and/or aura will you be telling them not to enter and denying them access to explore this zone if they had never been there?
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Of course not.
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LOL me controlling, I'm just asking things I'm not the one tellings peeps what they can and can't do.
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"Trolling" is term for an Internet troll, a person who makes comments designed to induce angry comments.
@Byrne
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This is all well and fine if u haven't altered your pre lvl 20 cossie. My guy being a robot always seemed to have something missing then I got the auras and now I have the same star burst glow eyes on all my cossie. It makes my character look alive, like you can see more into him throw his eyes now and I don't really want to lose the effect.
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Hang on. Your entire argument is based on......vanity?!
Vanity and ignorance.
What level is this btw? I'm at 41, would be awesome to get the badge while you're fighting...er...faceplant for you.