Whats the deal with all the attitude in PvP?
By
Afulia,
Posted on: 2006-02-22 09:49 in Everything about PvP
I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers. 
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
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The thing that killed any hope of pvp for me wasn't the fighting other players, it was the farming by groups of players.
I went in early on looking for a group to pvp with as I thought it would be quite fun to team up and take on some villains. All my requests for a team got me was a constant attack by groups taking me out without warning, then spammed abuse and some quite unpleasant comments when I pointed out how unfair it is for 8 players attacking one without even warning me they were there. It was made even worse by the fact that they camped outside the hospital and got me every time i poked my head out. I know there is a 30 second window of safety, but as soon as it wore off I was faceplanted again with masses of insults about how [censored] I was.
Before I get the flames about how I was in a pvp zone and should expect to be attacked, yes I know. That was the point of me being there. If it was a lone player I wouldn't have minded but being farmed by a full team was really annoying. The only result of my requests for a team was to advertise that there was an easy chicken ready for plucking.
To be honest, I don't think I would have minded if they had only done it the once and sent laughing messages to me along the lines of "welcome to sirens call, hope you enjoy your stay". I have a sense of humour and can take the bad with the good. It's the abuse I was getting that killed it for me. That, and the fact that I had to log and play a different character until I could be sure they had gone and I could get to the exit without fear.
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Next time u there send me a tell at my global handle and i ll change your mind about PvP zones 
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Sadly the majority of villains out there appear in the zones and use /whoall to see who is there. If they see specific names they turn around and run cause they recognise regulars. If not they just make teams and start spamming the "I r teh pvp god".Not that it doesnt happen to heroes side too.
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Same, I usually try to assist new to sirens players when I am there
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Would be fun but some quick tells and maybe a /ac request normally works wonders
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Paragon Defenders is probably the only PvP-based supergroup on Defiant. We're all levelling new toons at the moment though, so we haven't been in Sirens much.
Also, being in a zone with 10 stalkers and nothing else is boring.
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Paragon Defenders is probably the only PvP-based supergroup on Defiant. We're all levelling new toons at the moment though, so we haven't been in Sirens much.
Also, being in a zone with 10 stalkers and nothing else is boring.
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I dunno, I like killing stalkers
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Paragon Defenders is probably the only PvP-based supergroup on Defiant. We're all levelling new toons at the moment though, so we haven't been in Sirens much.
Also, being in a zone with 10 stalkers and nothing else is boring.
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I dunno, I like killing stalkers
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But it's so insanely boring to patrol the zone, looking for them.
Oi! Then you see them for a second or two, and then they fade away. Rinse, repeat.
Zzzzz.
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Paragon Defenders is probably the only PvP-based supergroup on Defiant. We're all levelling new toons at the moment though, so we haven't been in Sirens much.
Also, being in a zone with 10 stalkers and nothing else is boring.
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Its so annoying that I screwed up the respec on my empath, heres hoping I get a free one in I7
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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Paragon Defenders is probably the only PvP-based supergroup on Defiant. We're all levelling new toons at the moment though, so we haven't been in Sirens much.
Also, being in a zone with 10 stalkers and nothing else is boring.
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I dunno, I like killing stalkers
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But it's so insanely boring to patrol the zone, looking for them.
Oi! Then you see them for a second or two, and then they fade away. Rinse, repeat.
Zzzzz.
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Got a point there. I always forget that many players cant see them as easily as some of my characters. I can see a time where everyone takes invis and we all wander about with our heads up our bums (except ninja stalkers and, i think, SR scrappers).
I meant to post this a while back, but maybe it'd be good if you got a perception bonus based on height, like sitting in the crows nest of a pirate ship. Least then the flyers can get some height and get a players general location.
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
Stalkers aren't so hard to find. 2 CMs do the trick. theres a few other things i've noticed in my (short) time in PvP zones that i'm sure others have noticed. I want to bring my fire tanker in and see if any stalker manages to AS me when i've got Blazing Aura on (which is 99% of the time. 
). Could play nasty tricks on stalkers too......heh, you'd think i was a villain with all the nasty tricks i think up at times.
@Willow R
Main Hero:
Willow R (Emp/Rad Defender, lvl 50)
Matakoshi (kat/regen Scrapper, lvl 50)
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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I'm already in a VG/SG but would love to form (or join) a Squad devoted to belittling these ganking bullies.
E.G One of the Squad is in a PvP zone & they see a team of 8 farming some poor sole to the ends of the zone (hosp), the squad member switches on their Anti-gankers channel, see who's about, form a team and we move in and absolutely obliterate the fools!
I've got heroes or villains for this squad...
"Like War_Hero said, leave it as it is, it toughens up the softies." - Naz Nomad
Union Heroes
War Borg - Leader of The Paragon Knights
Union Villains
McCabe - Co-leader of The Rogue Knights
Defiant - Supreme Hero
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Stalkers aren't so hard to find. 2 CMs do the trick. [...]
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Yeah, I forgot. Upon entering a PvP zone you are appointed your own personal Empathy Defender/Controller to follow you around and buff/heal you. Heh.
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Stalkers aren't so hard to find. 2 CMs do the trick. theres a few other things i've noticed in my (short) time in PvP zones that i'm sure others have noticed. I want to bring my fire tanker in and see if any stalker manages to AS me when i've got Blazing Aura on (which is 99% of the time. ). Could play nasty tricks on stalkers too......heh, you'd think i was a villain with all the nasty tricks i think up at times.
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I am afraid that blazing aura is seemingly useless against stalkers, I have ASd numerous fire tanks and never been hit. I can also AS through mud pots, the only tank PBAOE that causes issues is chilling embrace.
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Its your fault
Its your computers fault
Its your ISPs fault
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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I'm already in a VG/SG but would love to form (or join) a Squad devoted to belittling these ganking bullies.
E.G One of the Squad is in a PvP zone & they see a team of 8 farming some poor sole to the ends of the zone (hosp), the squad member switches on their Anti-gankers channel, see who's about, form a team and we move in and absolutely obliterate the fools!
I've got heroes or villains for this squad...
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And become one of them yourself...
Fighting l33t since 1974
Don't "lol"! Laugh!
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My stalker had problems with artic air, but then, he is low leveled. Ganking doesnt bother me so much, it just the term people on the wrong end of the equation use for team work. I'm more bothered about the wee plonkers who sit in there base, declare themselves the uber playerkiller and shout abuse at people. Actually, they dont even have to sit in there base, its just the ones who go on about everyone being [censored] all the time.
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
I personally think i'll ALWAYS have a problem with stalkers, and not just the "omg, my AS didnt instakill!" -placate- -runbacktobase- types. I just dont feel their balance, either as one, or as a target of one. Maybe thats just because im a Metal Gear Solid and Tenchu fan, but thats always the way it'll be. Well, considering most of my characters are squishy. I think i'll gripe about them another few hundred thousand times, too. Thankfully though, not all at once, and hopefully i'll keep it as polite as I have, previously
To me, PVPing whilst also holding a good bickering session/conversation over local/broadcast is kinda fun. Or maybe thats just because im a gemini. When im not gabbing, im typing fast. Hell, I even have a bucket of water near my PC so I can put my fingers out when they set alight.
I think the trick is to do what you will, but be considerate in everything you do. I've gained some good in-game friends out of fighting and yacking hard 
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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I'm already in a VG/SG but would love to form (or join) a Squad devoted to belittling these ganking bullies.
E.G One of the Squad is in a PvP zone & they see a team of 8 farming some poor sole to the ends of the zone (hosp), the squad member switches on their Anti-gankers channel, see who's about, form a team and we move in and absolutely obliterate the fools!
I've got heroes or villains for this squad...
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And become one of them yourself...
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It's a valid point, but flawed.
Intentionally, the squad would not be the ones bullying 8-on-1 repeatedly and pretty much forcing that player to log in the hospital, thus putting someone off the zone.
My point is, I guess, is somewhat more vigilante, I don't like to see ganking up on someone, especially in a case like the above. The idea is to help the person in need, give the bullies a taste of their own, and moreso, it leaps into an instant PvP event, all parties get what they want. 
"Like War_Hero said, leave it as it is, it toughens up the softies." - Naz Nomad
Union Heroes
War Borg - Leader of The Paragon Knights
Union Villains
McCabe - Co-leader of The Rogue Knights
Defiant - Supreme Hero
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I'm surprised there hasnt been an sg created for characters built primarily for pvp to go out and splat all the wee plonkers.
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I'm already in a VG/SG but would love to form (or join) a Squad devoted to belittling these ganking bullies.
E.G One of the Squad is in a PvP zone & they see a team of 8 farming some poor sole to the ends of the zone (hosp), the squad member switches on their Anti-gankers channel, see who's about, form a team and we move in and absolutely obliterate the fools!
I've got heroes or villains for this squad...
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And become one of them yourself...
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It's a valid point, but flawed.
Intentionally, the squad would not be the ones bullying 8-on-1 repeatedly and pretty much forcing that player to log in the hospital, thus putting someone off the zone.
My point is, I guess, is somewhat more vigilante, I don't like to see ganking up on someone, especially in a case like the above. The idea is to help the person in need, give the bullies a taste of their own, and moreso, it leaps into an instant PvP event, all parties get what they want.
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Something i've noticed in online gaming, mostly MUD's, Is that there is often 1 or 2 powerfull/skilled players who go around righting wrongs (or at least what they percieve as wrong). I've certainly hunted down MUDers before and kept them held down and hurt because they were picking on lowbies. So having a pvp kill squad prolly wouldnt be such an unusual thing anyway.
My MA IDs:
Fiend Space: 211464
Attitude is what seperates the Players from the Enviroment.
World of Jackcraft.
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Attitude is what seperates the Players from the Enviroment.
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Its because the pavement doesnt give me sass, that I dont lay the smack down. Though occasionally i've had run-ins with hedges. They burned.
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some people are jerks and some people are cool, its true in life, pve and pvp sadly 
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And such people tend to gravitate to games where they can exploit others and show their 'superiority'. Adding PvP zones to CoX opened the gates, so now they are coming to here as well. Well, most everything is a two-sided sword. I don't mind that much. If only they could even speak english.
I just wish they would stop designing the game in a fashion that effectively encourages this. (ie. widening the gap between good PvPers and beginners, and introducing horrible risks to losing which will just cause bitterness. (I refer to upcoming IoPs the way I perceive them))
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Hmm I wonder how IOPs will affect pvp in real terms
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The main thing that bugs me is the lack of any real hard data concerning bases or base-raids. And the info we got doesnt make any sense to me.
Heh, not my fault if you choose to enter a PvP zone without the best AT around. (i'm joking, IMO defenders rock, but its entirely up to the style you play as to which AT is the best. some people are amazing with trollers but [censored] with scrappers and vice versa. )
@Willow R
Main Hero:
Willow R (Emp/Rad Defender, lvl 50)
Matakoshi (kat/regen Scrapper, lvl 50)
Well, i have to say that the attitude was only that bad on Tuesday night. maybe it was cos there was so many villains there they thought they'd be able to take on anyone and win, i don't know. We were there again last night going for the badge, at first with just 3 of us, later going up to 6. at no point at all was there any abuse of broadcast thrown at anyone, only a "any heros here?" to which we just replied "theres a few of us about....". There were about 2 stalkers in there, and they attacked us once. we beat them, they left us alone. They could obviously tell that we weren't interested in PvP, but were ready and willing to hold our own if we got attacked. They didn't even send comments like "cowards hiding at your base" or anything. But again, that was Bloody Bay. we were tempted to go to Siren's Call for some proper action, but decided against it.
we were too tired anyhoo.
@Willow R
Main Hero:
Willow R (Emp/Rad Defender, lvl 50)
Matakoshi (kat/regen Scrapper, lvl 50)