Cold Domination
theres a great guide on the us forums by northstar.
But quickly - my opinions are that ice shield is ok but glacial shield is a waste as it only gives energy and neg energy def while you already have energy res in your arctic fog.
Frostworks is great but team mates get frustrated that it's not a "full team" buff because of the slow recharge - can keep it perma on 3 team mates aith some recharge slotted.
I respecced out of the shields, I am not a buff bot I am a master of carnage and that's what you get with ice/cold - lots of slow motion carnage especially after level 35 and the glorious sleet power. mmm it knocksdown like ice patch, it debuffs def and res, it slows, it does damage..mmmmmm
I have an Ice/Cold and while it is great, it is a very slow starter (pun intended) ... you have a couple of fantastic early powers (infrigidate/benumb) but have to wait until the late 30s before you become truly amazing (pre-30s it trails far behind Kinetics, whereas afterwards I'd say it is very close).
Bit of a PvP monster, so I'm surprised they aren't more common (I suppose lack of a heal might have something to do with that).
My brute once teamed with a kinetics AND a cold... that was silly (and the fastest XP I've ever seen)
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world
You on union? dry ice and lady kinetika by any chance? We always team together (real life mates)
Yep, that was them
Now, where did I put that gaffer tape?
It is no joke to say I am seriously considering getting another account and starting a brute and kin 'over there' and double teaming all the time, this combo is THAT good.
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world
What was your name again mate? were you the dark brute called genericvillain001?
Haven't had much luck with teams since that day to be honest - would be good to team with you again - add me as @mr cuddles if you want
Already did, I play odd hours (and never the same set week on week) so I haven't seen you on whenever I've been about - but I will keep an eye out.
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world
hehehehe from such few replies i guess cold domination IS really rare i like that a lot, heh got a level 8 one atm on defiant and i love him to bits, he totally owns i duo with a plant/thorn dominator and we totally own. Can't wait for heat loss sounds awfully like a fulcrum shift power but instead of damage buff its an endurance recovery buff to, sounds incredibly awesome.
Not taking any of the shields on my corrupter, only getting frostwork and all the debuffs. Should be pretty awesome.
i have just stated an ice/ice aswell ( the evil version of my lvl 50 ice blaster) so the pri pool is nothing new to me but i am likeing the cold domination
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Can't wait for heat loss sounds awfully like a fulcrum shift power but instead of damage buff its an endurance recovery buff to, sounds incredibly awesome.
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It works exactly like fulcrum shift in that you have to get among a big mod of enemies for it to work to maximum effect but while it's active it's easily as good as a slotted recovery aura, without actually being slotted itself. Horrendous recharge though.
The one thing I cant work out is whether or not it needs accuracy - it takes the enhancements but I have never ever missed with it even with no accuracy so's slotted, and I play against +2/+3s regularly
I'd say at the moment 1acc/3 recharge would be sufficient slotting, with maybe 2 end mods if slots are spare.
Here's my build. No shields, frostworks only and all the debuffs - works very well in large teams, bit of a slow soloer at times.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.4.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: Dry Ice
Level: 39
Archetype: Corruptor
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Cold Domination
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1)Acc(3)Dmg(3)Dmg(7)Dmg(7)Rechg(17)
01) --> Infrigidate==> Acc(1)Acc(5)
02) --> Ice Bolt==> Acc(2)Acc(5)Dmg(11)Dmg(15)Dmg(15)Rechg(19)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4)Rechg(21)Slow(33)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8)Acc(9)Hold(9)Hold(11)Hold(17)Rechg(21)
10) --> Recall Friend==> Rechg(10)
12) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(12)Rechg(13)Rechg(13)Dmg(31)Dmg(33)Dmg(33)
14) --> Teleport==> EndRdx(14)Range(37)Range(37)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18)Acc(19)Dmg(25)Dmg(25)Dmg(27)Rechg(27)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20)EndMod(23)EndMod(23)
22) --> Arctic Fog==> EndRdx(22)DmgRes(29)DmgRes(31)DmgRes(31)
24) --> Hover==> Fly(24)
26) --> Bitter Freeze Ray==> Acc(26)
28) --> Benumb==> Acc(28)Acc(29)Rechg(34)Rechg(34)Rechg(37)
30) --> Frostwork==> Rechg(30)Rechg(34)Heal(36)
32) --> Blizzard==> Dmg(32)
35) --> Sleet==> Rechg(35)Rechg(36)Rechg(36)
38) --> Heat Loss==> Rechg(38)
heh sounds wicked, heres my proposed build, its for PvP, so check it out.
Obviously more slots needed
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.2.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://home.comcast.net/~SherkSilver/index.html)
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Name: Everclear
Level: 41
Archetype: Corruptor
Primary: Ice Blast
Secondary: Cold Domination
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01) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(11)
01) --> Infrigidate==> Acc(1) Acc(9) Rechg(27) Rechg(33)
02) --> Frost Breath==> Acc(2) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(7) Dmg(11)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4)
06) --> Aim==> Rechg(6) Rechg(15) Rechg(15)
08) --> Freeze Ray==> Acc(8) Acc(9) Hold(37) Hold(37)
10) --> Swift==> Run(10)
12) --> Hasten==> Rechg(12) Rechg(13) Rechg(13)
14) --> Super Speed==> Run(14)
16) --> Frostwork==> Rechg(16) Rechg(17) Rechg(17) Heal(34) Heal(37)
18) --> Bitter Ice Blast==> Acc(18) Acc(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21)
20) --> Arctic Fog==> DmgRes(20) DmgRes(23) DmgRes(23) EndRdx(27)
22) --> Hurdle==> Jump(22) Jump(31) Jump(40)
24) --> Stamina==> EndMod(24) EndMod(25) EndMod(25)
26) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(26) Jump(31)
28) --> Benumb==> Acc(28) Acc(29) Rechg(29) Rechg(31)
30) --> Aid Other==> Rechg(30)
32) --> Aid Self==> Heal(32) Heal(33) Heal(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Sleet==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) EndRdx(36)
38) --> Heat Loss==> EndMod(38) EndMod(39) EndMod(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Scourge==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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seems an ok build just wonderin why you've missed out a few powers such as ice storm and blizzard. As many ice/cold people will tell you sleet + ice storm + blizzard is an awesome combo to have. And also the medicine pool seems a strange one to take when there the above mentioned powers at later levels.
simply is a PvP build, cold domination lacks a self heal, i have aid self to cover that ground.
In PvE ice storm +sleet + blizzard is an amaazing combo, but when its single target its often a very redundant combination, aswell as nukes being very situational. This build is very much a sirens solo player build, and will win in most circumstances in a 1 vs 1. Shame i didnt get to fit whirlwind in there though.
if it's a build for siren's pvp I'd argue you shouldnt have frostworks and also that you should have stamina at level 22.
My build works really well in pvp, the only thing I am going to respec is to swap hover with ice storm purely for when pvping in sirens call.
Having has experience of this build in pvp, I'd argue mine is better for pvp - although teleport is not for all.
also, frost breath is an aoe and uses too much end for too little damage in my opinion. I can't beleive anyone would take frost breath over ice storm.
Just thought i'd chime in here to add my latest findings on this build. I recently spent quite a while using my most recent build planner to check out the numbers on cold domination powers. I can tell you that;
1) Ice storm and sleet have an identical recharge of 36 seconds with 2 recharges each, the third takes it down to 31 seconds...so not worth the extra slot for 5 seconds difference imho.
2) i am slotting blizard with just 3 recharges (atm) as this brings it down to a 3 min recharge...identical to heatloss with 3 recharges. Looking at the numbers it does almost as much damage as the other novas with aim to buff them, and i plan to use it with sleet and ice storm for that extra damage.
3) A second end redux on both snow storm and arctic fog dramatically increases the amount of time you can fight for (lowers end per second). This is almost as much as adding an end redux on each attack power, which depending on whether or not you intend to PvP heavily may be better or worse than an extra acc.
I don't actually know the name of the planner i'm using atm but it's way way better than my old one and lets you see your eps, total end recovery, and even work out dps on attack chains as well as telling you how long you can go before running out of end with your chosen attack chain.....really useful.
P.S. Ty Cuddles kindly for letting us know your experience with heatloss. I had planned 3 recharge, 1 acc, 2 end mod....but what you have said could well save me a whole bunch of precious slots.
I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain
~Edna St. Vincent Millay
Hmm i use sherksilvers hero planner, and it says that heatlosss is auto hit
Ok now this is just plain weird....just checked my planner again (may be the one you said) and now it wont allow acc. It definately did very recently (i.e. yesterday) so either it updated itself or i'm deep in the twiglet zone (wheres my medication!?!?). It would make sense to me for it to be autohit though as it's a final power and has a nasty recharge time. If thats true then it's sounding better again
I miss him in the weeping of the rain;
I want him at the shrinking of the tide;
The old snows melt from every mountain-side,
And last year's leaves are smoke in every lane;
But last year's bitter loving must remain
~Edna St. Vincent Millay
It 100% definitely accepts accuracy enhancements, although as I said I have never missed so it might well be auto hit.
I also am nto concinved it actually needs end mod enhancements because even with 2-3 buff icons the endurance recovery is as good as a slotted recovery aura
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I also am nto concinved it actually needs end mod enhancements because even with 2-3 buff icons the endurance recovery is as good as a slotted recovery aura
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i read your posts cos you often strike me as very funny and now even when your not trying to be funny you are funny just look at those spelling mistakes and its edited! i do love you, you will always be my empaths fave tanky cos mostly it was only you i had to heal.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
So i just got CoV today, its wicked, made my em/sr stalker and now i want to move into corrupters.
I'm intrested in an ice/cold domination corrupter, obviously don't need explnation on ice blast. But i'd like to hear your opinions from teaming with */cold corrupters and how they play. The debuffs sound ace. The shields look awesome (met a cold corrupter who buffed me with shields never looked so awesome ) But from your first hand views how are they in comparison to other sets. I love the idea of cold domination its a rare and sounds like a really nice set, so hopefully i'll get some positive feedback and a good discussion.
Cheers PN