actually i disagree with all of the above. The current system requires more skill from the players and not just clicking on a full tray. If the regulars come in a level 30 zone with all our powers then nothing can save most of the villains out there and its hard enough for them as it is now. You need to learn to plan your toon according to your needs and you need to decide.You want a pvp toon?Fine respec into PvP build and expect some PvE underperformance.
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You want a pvp toon?Fine respec into PvP build and expect some PvE underperformance.
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Bah, disagree with that. You'll find that most PvP built toons to better in PvE than people with a PvE build, simply because PvP toons are so insanely min/maxed.
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Bah, disagree with that. You'll find that most PvP built toons to better in PvE than people with a PvE build, simply because PvP toons are so insanely min/maxed.
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actually i disagree with all of the above. The current system requires more skill from the players and not just clicking on a full tray. If the regulars come in a level 30 zone with all our powers then nothing can save most of the villains out there and its hard enough for them as it is now. You need to learn to plan your toon according to your needs and you need to decide.You want a pvp toon?Fine respec into PvP build and expect some PvE underperformance.
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im just saying that we shouldnt have to change our toons in pvp build...
or build 1 specially for pvp.
so what ur saying comes down 2 that pvp is only for lvl 50's..
cause were is the balance if they can get me with 1 slash because off the full slotted powers?
imho its just verry frustratin me that i did a lot of effort to gain stuff, but i cant use it in pvp...
but thats personal, i didnt say u had to agree with my toughts.
1 other question: can villains attack villains? wen not in a team?
and can u pls tell me why its hard enough already for em?
cause im playin there now and all ive seen is that they have it verry easy...
they only w8 for the heroes to attack em with a lotta trollers and stalkers, or tp heroes in that area towards them. all on same spot, whole evening, every day.
whats the difficulty in that...?!
the only ones that come off that place are the stalkers to try and kill u with 1 shot/slash, and if they dont succeed [even if ur almost done for] they run back to that camping spot again asap.
ur right about that with the powers but i rather go down with all the powers ive gained so far,against a lvl 50 then handicapped,and knowing hes fully slotted.
on the other hand... imagine, a lvl 50 brought back to lvl 30 in pvp with all his powers,bumps in against a 3 heroe lvl 36 team that is also being brought back to lvl 30 but also with all there powers.[so they all be lvl 30 but u keep all the powers that u gained so far]
i would say that would be a much more fair deal,and more atractive to the players to try urself out in PVP.
im verry happy with this game[so dont get me wrong] but losing powers against fully slotted players is not really balancing is it...
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on the other hand... imagine, a lvl 50 brought back to lvl 30 in pvp with all his powers,bumps in against a 3 heroe lvl 36 team that is also being brought back to lvl 30 but also with all there powers.[so they all be lvl 30 but u keep all the powers that u gained so far]
i would say that would be a much more fair deal,and more atractive to the players to try urself out in PVP.
im verry happy with this game[so dont get me wrong] but losing powers against fully slotted players is not really balancing is it...
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And imagine a level 30 coming across a level 20 in Sirens..now thats fair.
As for level 50's pvp only i pvp in sirens on villains side
with a level 30 dominator and a bunch of level 28 corruptors with no stalkers and we can kill anything that moves from level 20 to level 50.
My kin/elec does well in pvp for a defender, some great buffs, debuffs, a big heal, and a bag of dangerous end draining powers. Not much damage though, i'll leave that to the blasters and scrappers.
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For people to keep powers they have gained up to lvl 50 when exempted down to an even playing feild is an absolutely inane and a totally unfair suggestion. A lvl 50 could have 11 extra powers to call into play over a lvl 20 in the same zone and some of them are nigh on invincible, how could a lvl 20 without SOs take on a SR with Elude? A stone with Granite? A controllers chain holds with a singularity? An unstoppable tank? Simple fact is lvl 50s already have a huge advantage with slots and SOs already to had an already stronger character. How is a larger advantage is going to make pvp more enjoyable to those without high lvl characters?
None of us want to lose powers but it is balanced as it is, not perfectly as the lowbies are not pulled up to the highers lvls in terms of slots and Sos but it isnt bad, there is no way that stronger characters should get stronger. If you want this go to Warburg and shortly recluses Victory
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well i understand that, but what i mean is why cant they make it like this: keep all powers you have gained leveling up but in strength u be examped to 30.
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Not fair at all, think of the epics and the "ultimate" powers. As said before, you get the stone tanks with granite, the singularities, elude, nukes (maybe not effective in pvp, but still) etc etc. A player which has no access to an equal lvl defensive power will stand no chance whatsoever.
Also how do you think "at the strength of a lvl 30" will work? Take away all the enhances they gained after lvl 30? After all, people already have an advantage at the higher lvls because they are slotted to the max with enhances. As you said before, respec to get some powers at earlier lvls.. thats what those things are for.
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or... what i would love 2 see is a lvl 50 full power pvp zone only for mature lvl 50 toons so we can use all our powers in pvp....
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coming in issue #7 (afaik) called Recluse's Victory
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its verry frustrating to have a adult toon and get smashed back in pvp to lvl 30, missin powers u are used to fight with...
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like I said, go to a higher lvl pvp zone (like warburg) if you dont like it. After all, with your suggestion, lower lvl players will have no chance at all.
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obviously you havent pvped much then.. minimum lvl to enter bloody bay is 15 - exemped to 25 -, minimum lvl to enter sirens is 20 - exemped to 30 - and minimum lvl to enter warburg is 30 - exemped to 38- , voila, lvl cap introduced. However I still have to emphasize that your system still aint fair, seeing a 15 can enter bloody bay (as I said before), having only 9 powers, vs a 50 which has 26 (iirc) powers. Yup, really fair, sorry mate, didnt see your point there, indeed gives both parties an equal chance. Add to that that 15s have NO way of being fully slotted with SOs (mainly because there are no lvl 18 SOs you can buy). If you still fail to grasp the immense disadvantage the lvl 15 will be in, I dont know what will. Would this system actually be implemented, then I expect the PvP zones will be real empty real soon as all the lower lvls dont dare to go there because they'll get ganked by the higher lvls. These weight classes are to ensure everybody stands at least a chance, even if its a small one.
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i can sure take on a 36 with my 34, depends on the powers i use.
cause now i miss powers i gained but a player that enters pvp with a lvl 50 toon has a big slotting advantage...
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There you undermine your whole theory. You say higher lvls already have an advantage because of the slotting. If they have a slotting advantage AND a power advantage, that would unbalance it even further would it not? Tell me, do you think your 34 can beat a 50 with power AND slotting advantage? You already admit you lose in the amount of slotting, well you also lose in the amount of powers available.
Would feel sorry for all those low lvl people in BB/sirens that would get ganked if I take my 50 for a spin there with all my powers. All those temps, all those accolades and of course the psionic mastery epic and force bubble so they cant even reach me and get ripped to shreds by psi attacks.. Yup, sounds fair to me.
PS. apologies in advance if this post is considered a flame rather than a little rant, as it is not directed at the person but more at his suggestion.
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All those temps, all those accolades and of course the psionic mastery epic and force bubble so they cant even reach me and get ripped to shreds by psi attacks.. Yup, sounds fair to me.
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Are accolades active in PvP mode? I would have thought not, least not till there are villinous versions of the hero accolades.
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but why do we get tossed back to lvl 30 ? im a 34 now and wen i go sirens call i lose my dull pain because of that!
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think of it as weight classes.. its just to make it a bit fairer by letting people have an equal amount of powers to use. Of course higher lvls still have the slotting advantage. It wouldnt exactly be fair if you wouldnt get exemped to a certain lvl.
Imagine some new villain, just hit 15 and want a test run in bloody bay. He stays lvl 15 and in the meantime a lvl 50 hero thinks he'll have some fun in PvP as well. So, he too, goes to bloody bay. Well, call me crazy but I doubt a 50 vs a 15 really is a good fight is it?
Hence you all get sked/exemped to the same lvl so you dont have lvl differences, power/hp wise. The higher lvl will still have more slots and so his moves are still more powerful. However with this setup the weaker one still has a chance to fight back. If you still wanna have dull pain, go to warburg where you got kicked to 38.
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well i understand that, but what i mean is why cant they make it like this: keep all powers you have gained leveling up but in strength u be examped to 30.
so u wont have to build a special pvp toon.
now u need to think about what power u gonna choose first in lower lvl's cause maybe u miss sum needed powers in pvp.
yes u can do a respec but it would be easyer this way.
i want to pvp with my main toon and not build one especially for pvp, it takes a lotta time to make a full hp lvl 50 toon already!
or... what i would love 2 see is a lvl 50 full power pvp zone only for mature lvl 50 toons so we can use all our powers in pvp....
its verry frustrating to have a adult toon and get smashed back in pvp to lvl 30, missin powers u are used to fight with...
u say it isnt fair lvl 50 against a lvl 15, i agree on that but why not make area's like in the game for that?
i cant enter striga if im still not lvl 20,so why not make the pvp like that.... and keep the powers u gained so far.
i can sure take on a 36 with my 34, depends on the powers i use.
cause now i miss powers i gained but a player that enters pvp with a lvl 50 toon has a big slotting advantage...