Hardest hit in the game?


Amazing_Shnyet

 

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Ok, what do you reckon is the hardest attack in the game, player wise?

My thoughts,

1) Brute: 99% fury, Build Up, Fiery Embrace, Energy Transfer
2) Scrapper: Build Up, Headsplitter, Critical
3) Blaster: Aim, Build Up, Max Defiance, Thunderous Blast
4) Stalker: Build Up, Assassin Strike

Im not sure, but i reckon the brute has the best chance of the highest DoT.


 

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Maximim defiance and inferno is most blaster can do actually, that's the most damaging nuke and defiance is enough to cap your damage.


 

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Maximim defiance and inferno is most blaster can do actually, that's the most damaging nuke and defiance is enough to cap your damage.

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I may be worng, but according to Sherks' hero planner, Inferno does a total base damage of 12.5001 whereas TB does 13.889 ( DoT included ).


 

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But, from the power description: [ QUOTE ]
Also, not listed in the Brawl Index is a random 0 - 10 tick of .5556 fire damage.

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I may be worng, but according to Sherks' hero planner, Inferno does a total base damage of 12.5001 whereas TB does 13.889 ( DoT included ).

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My planner has them at the same base damage, with the DoT taking inferno to a slightly higher level.


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does a corrupter doing fulcrum shift, aim and inferno compare to blaster aim and build up inferno?

controller with a group held using fulcrum shift and fire ball with double dmg must come close too


 

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IIRC isn't a Brute damage cap like 800%? So im guessing that would prtty much dominate anything.
I cant remember the figues, but wouldnt Aim+Buildup Total Focus be a larger hit on a single target than a nuke?

Shnyet AWAY


 

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Yeah but the base is lower, brute is 0.75 to scrapper 1.25 (something like that).
So with scrapper cap @500% and brute @800% this would make brute 6 and scrapper 6.25? If thats correct then scrappers indeed have a higher damage possibility over brutes, not sure about blaster figures hence why i never mentioned them. (correct me if i'm wrong, my recollection of the figures is hazy ).


 

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Depend os whether you are looking at a single attack or a single attacking chain in which case for a stalker Id suggest the following:

Build Up, Asassins Strike, Placate, Evicerate

Ok its two moves but does a shed load of damage.


 

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IIRC isn't a Brute damage cap like 800%? So im guessing that would prtty much dominate anything.
I cant remember the figues, but wouldnt Aim+Buildup Total Focus be a larger hit on a single target than a nuke?

Shnyet AWAY

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Total Focus has a brawl index of about 9.5, whereas each of the 3 nukes have a base index of around 12, so the nuke does quite a bit more.

Edit: I suppose the Brute TF would do more than a blaster nuke when at damage cap then, yea..


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Depend os whether you are looking at a single attack or a single attacking chain in which case for a stalker Id suggest the following:

Build Up, Asassins Strike, Placate, Evicerate

Ok its two moves but does a shed load of damage.

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Uhm... there are more damaging shots a stalker has access to... Energy Transfer being the highest? That is, besides an AS crit.


 

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Nope, cause critical hits with ripper do more damage than energy transfer. Energy transfer cannot do criticals.

So AS -> placate -> ripper, would do more damage,
than AS -> placate -> energy transfer.


A Paragon Defender

 

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Critical headsplitter at the damage cap.

10 (1000% damage cap + critical)* 7,22 (brawl index of headsplitter according Sharks hero planer * 22,51 (Scrapper using brawl in the arena against a blaster, That must be base lvl since nothing affects it).

Thats 1625,222 points of damage in PvP. So basicly that would 1-hit-kill tanks at lvl37 (No accolades or other HP boosters) and lvl50 scrappers.

AS at damage cap

19,446 (Brawl index of AS, still sharks)* 5 (damage cap)* 22,51 (lets presume that stalkers and scrappers hits equally hard with brawl, I dont know if this is true.)

Thats 2188,6473 points of damage which will 1-hit-kill a tank at lvl50 (Without hp-boosting)


A Paragon Defender

 

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Energy transfer cannot do criticals.

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What? It wont crit when it's performed while hidden?


 

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Just checked the brawl value of a stalker. Its only 8,86.

So AS is only 862,3438 presuming that damage cap is 500% which it prolly isnt.


A Paragon Defender

 

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Energy transfer cannot do criticals.

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What? It wont crit when it's performed while hidden?

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No, but you dont loose HP while using it, as you normally do.


A Paragon Defender

 

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No, but you dont loose HP while using it, as you normally do.

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Well, that's odd... Is this WAI?

If so, then an update in the power description would be nice.


 

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Well, that's odd... Is this WAI?

If so, then an update in the power description would be nice.

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Erm it does tell you in the description....


 

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Well, that's odd... Is this WAI?

If so, then an update in the power description would be nice.

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Erm it does tell you in the description....

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<slaps himself on the forehead>

Damn! I've been reading the description in the builder, and I assumed it was the same in game.


 

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No, but you dont loose HP while using it, as you normally do.

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Well, that's odd... Is this WAI?



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It's WAI because otherwise it'd hit harder than AS, with none of the start-up time.