PAs and PvP


Cherry_EU

 

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I play my ill/kin a bit in PvP but was wondering about how PAs affect certain alts like,

Stalkers, do PAs see throw their hide and does placate affect PAs?

Brutes, do PAs add to a Brutes fury every time they hit the target?

Once u as a controller have been confused can u be attacked by ur own PAs?

Hope someone is able to answer as im trying to build a strategy when confonted with these alts and the use of PAs. Thxs


 

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I play my ill/kin a bit in PvP but was wondering about how PAs affect certain alts like,

Stalkers, do PAs see throw their hide and does placate affect PAs?

Brutes, do PAs add to a Brutes fury every time they hit the target?

Once u as a controller have been confused can u be attacked by ur own PAs?

Hope someone is able to answer as im trying to build a strategy when confonted with these alts and the use of PAs. Thxs

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1. No and no
2. Yes, every attack directed at a brute increases fury no matter where it comes from
3. No, PA are immune to confuse. However, phantasms and spectral terrors aren't.


 

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Spectral Terror works well against Stalkers, especially when your BS/Regen teammate can three shot them.

Brutes: spam holds and stay clear of his melee attacks, because he'll be hitting you hard before he goes down.


 

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3. No, PA are immune to confuse. However, phantasms and spectral terrors aren't.

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Thats an anwser to a question that wasnt asked

The anwser is, Yes, if you get confused your decoys will turn and attack you


 

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Hi thxs for your answer, i didnt know about spectral terror being able to be confused thats well cool but anyway with PAs and illusions powers in general and brutes fury, once say spectral wounds wears off the target, in this case the brute, will heal back a % of its health does this mean as the damage was imaginary that they then lose a % of their fury. Also as Brutes build fury with every attack miss or hit doesnt that mean controllers like illusionist who use pets to great damage r kinda sealing their own fate by casting such pets onto a brute. If u think about it one on one an illusion controller casting PAs against a brute r in fact creating 4 targets {3 PAs plus self} all hitting a brute and all making him stronger.

As for stalkers they seem to be the most dominant alt in the pvp zones, and it seems i am gonna have to respec my ill/kin to deal solely with this 1 alt type which is a real shame and even after respec she still wouldnt be as secure against stalkers as other controllers are


 

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3. No, PA are immune to confuse. However, phantasms and spectral terrors aren't.

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Thats an anwser to a question that wasnt asked

The anwser is, Yes, if you get confused your decoys will turn and attack you

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Thats a NO. Unless its something really new. Pets dont turn on you when you are confused. They only turn on you when they are confused. Since you cant confuse PA....
And Im pretty sure you cant target spectral terror. Since you cant target it, you cant confuse it.


A Paragon Defender

 

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Another thing. Yes, you do regen some of the damage from eg. spectal wounds (imaginary damage, like you call it), but only the base value. If you 3 slot it with damage, then half of the damage taken wont be regenerated, since its not base value.


A Paragon Defender

 

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3. No, PA are immune to confuse. However, phantasms and spectral terrors aren't.

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Thats an anwser to a question that wasnt asked

The anwser is, Yes, if you get confused your decoys will turn and attack you

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Thats a NO. Unless its something really new. Pets dont turn on you when you are confused. They only turn on you when they are confused. Since you cant confuse PA....
And Im pretty sure you cant target spectral terror. Since you cant target it, you cant confuse it.

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Actually, NB, she's right. Laustin confused me in Warburg the other night and my pet was attacking me. Confusing the owner confuses all the pets as well.

I'm sure that PA are immune to confuse no matter what, though.


 

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Trust me, i hate it when i get confused, and yes, you cant confuse PA


 

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3. No, PA are immune to confuse. However, phantasms and spectral terrors aren't.

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Thats an anwser to a question that wasnt asked

The anwser is, Yes, if you get confused your decoys will turn and attack you

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Thats a NO. Unless its something really new. Pets dont turn on you when you are confused. They only turn on you when they are confused. Since you cant confuse PA....
And Im pretty sure you cant target spectral terror. Since you cant target it, you cant confuse it.

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Actually, NB, she's right. Laustin confused me in Warburg the other night and my pet was attacking me. Confusing the owner confuses all the pets as well.

I'm sure that PA are immune to confuse no matter what, though.

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Are you sure your pet wasnt confused?, I normally just use PA and they have never turned on me. Even when I fought a mind troller in the arena and he confused me all the time. It was in I5 though so I dont know if it has changed.

Edit: your right it works on troller pets if you confuse the troller, prolly also MMs, havnt tested it with PA yet.


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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr

 

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Are you sure your pet wasnt confused?, I normally just use PA and they have never turned on me. Even when I fought a mind troller in the arena and he confused me all the time. It was in I5 though so I dont know if it has changed.

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Positive. As I said, PA are immune to confuse so they won't have turned on you but if you had a phantasm or a spectral terror down then they would've.


 

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Are you sure your pet wasnt confused?

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Grav pets cant be confused, just like PA and Animated Stone, those are the only pets i know of that cant be confused directly. As for MMs i know ninjas have a res to confuse but i dont think the other sets do


 

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I thought animated stone only had a very high resistance to confuse rather than being immune? But please correct me if I'm wrong


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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AFAIK - if you confuse a controller, ALL his pets also get confused, regardless of their own confuseableness(?!?)

If anyone wants to test this out, send me a global tell.


 

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Am a bit confused myself now as the reason i ask was because whilst in bloody bay i was confused { not me personally but my alt} whilst my PAs where out when i looked at them their names they where no longer the normal green i usely see them in but orange so clearly they became a target for me but was wandering do i them become a target for them. Hope that made sense.


 

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Yeah, confuse makes other players con green and/or red regardless of them being friendly or not.

As to wether your PA's are also confused - I'm not totally sure, hence why I'd like to run a couple of experiements, if I can find a suitable ill or mind controller to go into Warburg with me.

I am SO not going into bloody bay, frikking Laustin only has siphon speed as a travel power at level 25!


 

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dont need to test, any and all pets that a controller summons are confused once the controller is confused, i did it to a grav troller once, to hear her scream "AHHH, my pet is attacking me" made me all warm inside

Also, i was in a team fight and the controller on the team we were fighting was also illusion, of course he had to get real close to see him, but so did i, anyway he kept making PA attack me, and Phantasm, heh, i did it to him as well


 

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/release_pets FTW! :P


"god, how many devs did hami have to sleep with to get ED?"

Total Cat @Stagefright

 

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Are you sure your pet wasnt confused?

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Grav pets cant be confused, just like PA and Animated Stone, those are the only pets i know of that cant be confused directly. As for MMs i know ninjas have a res to confuse but i dont think the other sets do

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Ive had my grav pets turn on me before. Not sure if i was confused or my pets. Was when i had 3 sing's and was'nt pretty


 

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Indeed my sings have turned on me before to, It took quite alot to confuse em, i think it was 2 or 3 confuses normally, and 4 or 5 with tactics running.
They are resistant to controlling powers, but not immune i believe.


 

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Yes, sorry about the wording there, i did mean resistant too confuse, not immune

but confuse recharges so slow that i dont really stack it that much (well, i hve no recharge SOs in it)