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I'm assuming that the temp powers are available when the bar on the Nav goes in the villains favour? I ask because as far as i've seen temp powers have never been available to buy in Sirens no matter how much bounty or prestige i have, the bar is always in heros favour when i'm there though.
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Yeah, you have to go and win some of the neighbourhood fights in the hotspots to push the bar over to the villains side. I've been in there as my hero a few times and have been unable to buy temp powers, so it's not always over to the hero side.
I did say "when i'm there" 
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I'm assuming that the temp powers are available when the bar on the Nav goes in the villains favour? I ask because as far as i've seen temp powers have never been available to buy in Sirens no matter how much bounty or prestige i have, the bar is always in heros favour when i'm there though.
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Yeah, you have to go and win some of the neighbourhood fights in the hotspots to push the bar over to the villains side. I've been in there as my hero a few times and have been unable to buy temp powers, so it's not always over to the hero side.
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And that defeats the point of "just swoop over to zone X and buy yourself a temporary power, Y, to cope with effect Z", heh.
Just to make it clear, i wasnt moaning about not being able to get the temp powers, i was basically asking how it worked as i wasnt sure.
Haven't found the need for temp powers as yet. They would only really be handy when Talin is around as other Storm trollers dont seem to use hurricane very often and i do them the favour of introducing them to the floor 
My fault for not clarifying either. It wasn't a reply against you... more against TG's "just go and get a temp. power"-"solution" to certain disadvantages PvP might(/will) put you in.
A team with complimenting powers and good tactics / teamwork.
Telekinesis is good for keeping a storm controller w/hurricane out of harms way.
You cant AS anyone using hurricane because it is auto hit and will interrupt AS. Your only chance is to toogle-drop hurricane. And the tohit debuff isnt resisted by any set that I know of. Defence powers only resist def-debuffs.
Vilains Energy Aura is imune to huricane and tp foe 
Hurricane is the best defence my brute has in pvp (ty TG :P), healt drop to red (run to TG) , low end (run to TG and end drain him) , 4 angry scrapers chasing me (run to TG and taunt them)
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You cant AS anyone using hurricane because it is auto hit and will interrupt AS. Your only chance is to toogle-drop hurricane. And the tohit debuff isnt resisted by any set that I know of. Defence powers only resist def-debuffs.
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There are other high damage attacks other than AS that can be used specifically as opening attacks on TG. Controllers are after all extremely squishy
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There are other high damage attacks other than AS that can be used specifically as opening attacks on TG. Controllers are after all extremely squishy
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I not see why people have to reffer to me. Its the storm set not the TG set. Is not like i invented the storm set or something. Controllers are squishy but hard to touch and get...that u know more than enough
I keep referring to you because you are basically the only storm controller of note that i've seen enter sirens call, so therefore to me is IS the TG set . One other came in but was repeatedly punished for not using hurricane Another reason being that my Stalker has been succesfully able to kill any AT, but yours is the hardest so far.
I probably shouldn't mention this cos the other thread has been locked, but as it doesnt really have anything to do with what the other one was about here goes(please take it as the reply its intended as and not a flame 
...) I note you mentioned in the other thread me killing you as you entered Sirens yesterday morning and described it as camping. Funny that, here was me thinking i was chasing someone else back to the hero entrance and you happened to be standing there without hurricane The second time you were beside the hospital but out of drone range (fair game) and your afk sign went up halfway through my AS animation, needless to say i didnt feel a strong urge to cancel the action I don't know if this is called 'ganking' but its what happened and i apologise if my actions were frowned upon.
I'll admit that i do chase heros to the hero entrance, and if i kill a hero, i will make my way to their hospital to try and kill them, although its usually so i can target them as they come out the base so i dont lose them on the map. After all i'm not hidden when i enter that area due to the Drones, and there can be a lot of fun to be had on both sides trying to kill before the drones get me. I've lost count of the times where i've had a laugh with heros over me not being able to get off a killer blow after AS before i'm zapped
damn stalker 
i w1ll wpnj00 y3t!1 etc
seriously annoying when u are having a fight with a brute slugging it out as a blapper then some stalker just comes along and bam ur dead! if the stalker is on the brutes team then fair enough, but i think a lot of the time solo stalkers just hammer u down. i understand that all is fair in pvp, and i will happily nail heroes in WB to steal codes, i just dont like the whole AS=dead thing when im below 75% hps, this is compounded in pvp zones by the loss of my accolades (which i think sucks tbh, we should keep those regardless of lvl imo). so pls dont think im whining, i freely admit i hate being owned in such a one side fight. guess i can rest easy knowing that in a duel most stalkers wouldnt kill me if we could fight at 50 (teeeerrrrash!!!1)
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I not see why people have to reffer to me. Its the storm set not the TG set. Is not like i invented the storm set or something. Controllers are squishy but hard to touch and get...that u know more than enough
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you use it better than most we come across in the PVP zones Its a two edged sword really, you get the kudos of being a crown jewel of a target
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damn stalker i w1ll wpnj00 y3t!1 etc
seriously annoying when u are having a fight with a brute slugging it out as a blapper then some stalker just comes along and bam ur dead! if the stalker is on the brutes team then fair enough, but i think a lot of the time solo stalkers just hammer u down. i understand that all is fair in pvp, and i will happily nail heroes in WB to steal codes, i just dont like the whole AS=dead thing when im below 75% hps, this is compounded in pvp zones by the loss of my accolades (which i think sucks tbh, we should keep those regardless of lvl imo). so pls dont think im whining, i freely admit i hate being owned in such a one side fight. guess i can rest easy knowing that in a duel most stalkers wouldnt kill me if we could fight at 50 (teeeerrrrash!!!1)
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I nearly always team with a stalker, being a big glowing target, haveing a stalker in tow is an awesome strategy, I distract, he assassinates you, how can you go wrong?
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guess i can rest easy knowing that in a duel most stalkers wouldnt kill me if we could fight at 50 (teeeerrrrash!!!1)
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When the time comes that i can fight you at level 50 i'll be sure to test out whether i can still kill you or not. As for it being a duel, thats like asking an empath to duel you, stalkers aint built for that
I might point out that for a while me against blasters was a pretty even match due to if i couldnt get the next blow in to finish them after AS, more often then not they then held me and commenced to blast my [censored]. But now i have status protection i'm afraid the balance has shifted somewhat
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you use it better than most we come across in the PVP zones Its a two edged sword really, you get the kudos of being a crown jewel of a target
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Lmao that 'crown jewel' can be flipped back to mean two certain stalkers too tho remember
The whole thing is two edged as in many MMO's, in SWG remember they brought in bounty hunters to rival jedi, there is a nemisis out there for most AT's on both side its a matter of finding it
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I nearly always team with a stalker, being a big glowing target, haveing a stalker in tow is an awesome strategy, I distract, he assassinates you, how can you go wrong?
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ROFPMSL how can you indeed, meh must get corruptor higher, lemme at 'em lemme at 'em. Well if my hero cany kill or be killed (for like sooo long) then i might as well kill the heros hehe
To Plight,
Aww, they're a menace to conts and blasters. Some without the magic formula can be spotted you know. But yeah w8 till we get lvl 40's around then we'll see a fairer fight, well maybe.... well prolly not actually. And I think a toe to toe with a top lvl one could go either way but tbh in an open zone the result willbe pretty much as it is sorry to say. The key for you i'd rekkon would be getting one to to toe not open??? 
The stalkers main point is the sneaking and striking they dint have high HP otherwise. And they can miss (its not much of a consolation I know but i'm trying to help honest). I think its that vilians AT@s roles are more defined, maybe not but thats my POV. I think a MM with full pets and SO's will be a force too shortly its just that stalkers and hurricaine stand out at teh moment.
Me thinks that the energy line and also certian corrupting powers will 'negate' it, we know that kinetics does but some primary CO powers have debuffing effects. I'm just awaiting thehero attempts to squash stalker thread lol. Well that and LvL 15 again
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The stalker is one of the easiest sets to negate in a PvP zone in teams with multi strategies for it that make a stalker really pinned down in the case of well prepared team.
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if by negate u mean let you decrease its effectiveness only one secondary set does and thats only regarding the knockback.
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The key for you i'd rekkon would be getting one to to toe not open???
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Thanks for that really good suggestion thats why the boxes and corners are for in PvP zones. Get a stalker in there and root him and watch him struggle in agony.Environmental Tactics are the best to killing stalkers due to their hit and run nature in the open.
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A good PvP stalker will never miss. BU + couple of yellows and the hit will land (unless we talk about debuffs put on stalker)
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An MM will never be a threat in a PvP zone only a nuisance since the pets that actually pull damage and actually manage land hits are the 2nd and 3rd class.Since you can take down the MM and that auto kills the pets an MM is no big threat in a PvP zone for a well prepared team.
EDIT: This is based on US forums PvP threads as well. The fact that the pets are very vulnurable to specific debuffs and attacks basically doesnt allow an MM for some really good damage output..combined with the low HP then a MM is a n easy prey
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There is no need for one as its too obvious what u need to do to get a stalker.
1) stay on the move which interrupts the AS
2) Use + perception and never give the impression to stalker that u can see him always give the confidence he is invisible
3) fire AOE that reveal stalkers and u are done
4)stick together so even when stalker tries to perform the hit to effectively kick him out of this world even if he perform assasin.
5) make sure to root stalker first so he wont go anywhere..kill his jump and fly and he is a done deal if the team has enough +perception
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Aww, they're a menace to conts and blasters
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tbh never found a stalker to be a menace in except gimpman and 3 more who fortunately belong to my SG (thats merely an observation without wanting to say anything for anyone based on the stalkers i have come across so far in PvP zones)
EDIT: considering they are level 40 or close to it i used them to test PvP against stalkers and thats where i base my observation on that. It has nothing to do with anyones skills
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That all depends on the team you are facing. And besides, i've learned that patience while stalking pays off big time.
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A good PvP stalker will never miss. BU + couple of yellows and the hit will land
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I very rarely miss, baring buffs/debuffs.
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I wouldnt say that, i've had the pleasure of teaming with some higher lvl MM's in the past couple of days, and i've seen their pets rip even Tankers to shreds.
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tbh never found a stalker to be a menace in except gimpman and 3 more who fortunately belong to my SG
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As i said above 'Patience' is under rated.
Riiiight.....
I dont think that was needed *sigh*
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Thanks for that really good suggestion thats why the boxes and corners are for in PvP zones. Get a stalker in there and root him and watch him struggle in agony.Environmental Tactics are the best to killing stalkers due to their hit and run nature in the open.
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I know all that thanks, i was refering to Plight saying that he'd win a duel fighting at lvl 50 if you read my post.
And if u look i pointed out the hit and run as well....
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Hmm never miss? is there really a power that NEVER misses? If that were really the case then stalkers are very very over powered indeed me thinks
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An MM will never be a threat in a PvP zone only a nuisance since the pets that actually pull damage and actually manage land hits are the 2nd and 3rd class.Since you can take down the MM and that auto kills the pets an MM is no big threat in a PvP zone for a well prepared team.
EDIT: This is based on US forums PvP threads as well. The fact that the pets are very vulnurable to specific debuffs and attacks basically doesnt allow an MM for some really good damage output..combined with the low HP then a MM is a n easy prey
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In that case you had better corrrect the others who have said that, i recall Obot only recetnly mentioning asasult bots in Pvp and given time for more to progress me thinks my comment stands. COnts and MM have low HP everyone knows that, thats why the rely on pets and holds. In teams they are aforce alone vulnerable. Your a cont you know that??
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tbh never found a stalker to be a menace in except gimpman and 3 more who fortunately belong to my SG (thats merely an observation without wanting to say anything for anyone based on the stalkers i have come across so far in PvP zones)
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I referrred both to Gimpman and to Hackitoff both of whom are in PvP and both of who's names are well known as good stalkers and its them who i meant as a menace which if we're being honest and not snide theyare.. If those in ur SG are good then great but as i've only witnessed Gimpy and Hack i'll stick to them for now.
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Thats very very true and i agree with you. A stalker is the one that will perform a very critical and surgical hit and removal from the opposite team. however like i said the strategies that kill the chances of the stalker to perform this hit are far too many. It needs a lot of effort from the stalker sideto perform a hit like that towards a well prepared team.
Regarding MM's hmmm well the only reason right now they can tear through some AT's is only due to the fact that most AT's that step in PvP zones are not PvP orientated. Put a full PvP MM against a PvP tanker/scrapper/blaster and they are done deal. The PvP blaster simply take a 2 hit kill towards the MM and not mention team situations where the MM's are just the easy kills.
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and if u read my post you will read that i clearly state 2nd and 3rd class pets which includes assault bots.
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COnts and MM have low HP everyone knows that, thats why the rely on pets and holds. In teams they are aforce alone vulnerable. Your a cont you know that??
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And you are wrong a PvP controller doesnt rely on pets EVER. Simply because their role isnt damage. And when it comes to 1vs1 situations if u think a controller is vulnurable then i think you need look around PvP forums and try PvP 1vs1 a controller.And yes i know iu am controller thats why i know what i am talking about. further more i know the MM's since i have already played one to level 36 so i speak from experience regarding MM effectiveness.
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I know all that thanks, i was refering to Plight saying that he'd win a duel fighting at lvl 50 if you read my post.
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Regarding Hackitoff all i can say is he is a good stalker and knows his set. Until he goes up higher level and gets a fair chance with better slotting and SO's like the level 40's i have been up to to test the stalkers versus my build
i not express any opinion.Gimpman is a special mental case of a stalker
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Regarding Hackitoff all i can say is he is a good stalker and knows his set. Until he goes up higher level and gets a fair chance with better slotting and SO's
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I've been hard at it. Thanks to being able to cash bounty in for SO's i now have every slot filled with a +3 SO. I'm loveing this part as there would be no other way in the game for me to have +3's slotted at lvl 26 (other than doing a TF over and over and over exemp'd for every slot i have :/).
what about Increase Density ? has anyone tried it ?
Oh deary deary me,
Well here we goes again then....
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Yah i know that and again I still say that higher MM's will be a threat. Why so determined to take everything wrongly?
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And you are wrong a PvP controller doesnt rely on pets EVER. Simply because their role isnt damage. And when it comes to 1vs1 situations if u think a controller is vulnurable then i think you need look around PvP forums and try PvP 1vs1 a controller.And yes i know iu am controller thats why i know what i am talking about. further more i know the MM's since i have already played one to level 36 so i speak from experience regarding MM effectiveness.
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Well heres a silly thing, controllers have low hit points that is a fact. MM's rely on pets perhaps I need to be more specific but my comment stands, MM's rely on pets controllers rely on holds but they do have pets, I know that too - oo clever lil me but they are vulnerable to attck deu to low HP, as i said in teams they are strong alone vulnerable pretty simple. Did you play ur lvl 36 fully built for PvP an in PvP? From what i've learned over several PvP games the build is different, which I'm sure you know
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just making sure that you know all that and i not see again any posts regarding tp ing into containers and how thats is unfair
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*sigh* Now that has nothing to do with this thread is totally out of context and therefore I think it is perhaps a dig oh no wait it cant be can it?? A flame?
Poor cheap shot. My views havent changed. An olive branch gone to waste me thinks =(
Meanwhile back on the topic of the thred;
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Regarding Hackitoff all i can say is he is a good stalker and knows his set. Until he goes up higher level and gets a fair chance with better slotting and SO's like the level 40's i have been up to to test the stalkers versus my build
i not express any opinion.Gimpman is a special mental case of a stalker
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Finally something we agree on, not the supposed testing issue but my lil m8's. They make ya all warm inside to watch.
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Helps against tp foe, not sure about the hurricane. Wouldnt stop the acc debuff if it did though. It runs out before i can get myself positioned for a try.
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It works against Tp foe no idea about hurricane sounds like it should
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Its your fault
Its your computers fault
Its your ISPs fault
I'm assuming that the temp powers are available when the bar on the Nav goes in the villains favour? I ask because as far as i've seen temp powers have never been available to buy in Sirens no matter how much bounty or prestige i have, the bar is always in heros favour when i'm there though.