Villain/Hero Roleplay.

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If your in a PvP zone and your standing still your gonna get attacked its that smiple.(snip)

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So...it's perfectly ok for a Level 40 Blaster to attack 3 level 15 villains? Is that what you're saying?

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If there in the PvP zone they have as much chance as taking me down as I have of taking them down. Its all about team work in the PvP zone and Im not going to check the Lv of every person I see there then send em a tell asking them if its ok I attack them.

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There you go agian calling me a ganker.

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I do believe this particular shoe does, in fact, fit.

Hmm, slightly discouraging replies so far.



How about "general" Villain/Villain Roleplay? There doesn't seem to be a centralised location for it as there is on the Hero side (On the American servers, at least, the Heroes would bunch up in a park at Galaxy City). Is this because of CoV's relative youth, or is just a bit difficult to find a reason for the Villains to do such a thing?

Some people are trying it here

For myself, I'm running a duo with another player completely IC only, but their personalities and goals don't really gel with a meeting of villains...

So if I see some one standing still I should send em a tell to warn em Im about check there Lv to see if its going to be a fiar match and then and only then can I attack em is that what your trying to say. Of course by the time I have done all this I will of been killed by his stalker mate that I didnt see coming due to the fact that I was fart arseing about. It seems to me that you lot have issues with PvP if you dont want to be attacked dont go to the PvP zones if your standing around doing nothing your a prime target if you think its ganking then your very much mistaken.

Just to help you all out this is the defintion of ganking or to be ganked.

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This word seems to have originated as hip hop slang for stealing, but has migrated into more common usage in blogs to credit the source of content stolen from others (who themselves often are not the original authors). Possibly a contraction of Grab and yANK.

A separate interpretation comes from Multiplayer Computer Games where a group of players gang up and kill another player - possibly a shortening of GANg Kill. The interpretation of this meaning seems to be very broad as it extends to character assignation and personal attacks.

According to the Double-Tongued Word Wrester dictionary, gank, noun, means "fake illegal drugs sold as real." DTWW also defines gank, verb, with "to rob, rip off, or con (someone)." It does not provide a sense for the use of the word among gamers. There are also several unreliable Urban Dictionary entries.

In the MMORPG World of Warcraft, the word is used (mainly on PvP servers) when player A , or multiple players attack player B when player B is trying to do something else, like mining, questing, slaying mobs etc... It is looked upon and seen as a dishonorable tactic.

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Okay. To try and appease both sides:

Rock_Eagle, I understand your point of view. It's a PvP zone, the clue is in the name. However, Role-Players are not trying to change everybody else's way of playing.

They have asked, and continue to ask for somewhere to Role-Play properly, precisely for the point that they don't want to have to be in the situation of being in a PvP zone, and causing 'normal' players the hassle you're being caused, or to have hassle situations cast unto themselves.

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In the MMORPG World of Warcraft, the word is used (mainly on PvP servers) when player A , or multiple players attack player B when player B is trying to do something else, like mining, questing, slaying mobs etc... It is looked upon and seen as a dishonorable tactic.

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I would say that part of the definition fits perfectly with interrupting what other players are doing just for a cheap kill.

The game may let you do it, it may not even be percieved as griefing by anyone official, but the words 'dishonourable tactic' fit perfectly, in much the same way TPing someone into a drone to get them debt is.

Do what you will, but remember you build your reputation by your own actions. Me, I'm quite happy knowing I'm not deliberately ruining the way other people want enjoy the game.

I would love for there to be a zone in wich the Role Players can interact in so that they can Role Play Villains Heros. But there argument seems to be that of calling every one that says that its not a good idea to do it in a PvP zone a Ganker. Im sick of every time I go to these zones meeting up with some moaner crying foul that he got killed. I get killed loads in the PvP zones but I dont moan about it or cry foul. Its not nice to be ganked by a team of 8 when your solo but its some thing that you have to put up with.

Gank : Theft by force

If you really want to get your jollies killing people who can't/won't fight back, then fine.

Just let us have our fun by co-operating with others.

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It seems to me that you lot have issues with PvP if you dont want to be attacked dont go to the PvP zones if your standing around doing nothing your a prime target if you think its ganking then your very much mistaken.


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We want to go to PVP zones to interact with villains in a roleplaying fashion without interference from non-roleplayers. Currently, there is no in-game mechanism that allows us to do this. Adding to this, while some players have said that if the area of people roleplaying was announced so they could be aware of it, they'd not interfere, some think this shouldn't be. As you said, roleplayers are a minority, so it's not like vast amounts of roleplayers would be there giving you no targets to attack, right?

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But there argument seems to be that of calling every one that says that its not a good idea to do it in a PvP zone a Ganker. Im sick of every time I go to these zones meeting up with some moaner crying foul that he got killed.

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*sigh* To once again use your very own words..

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If your in a PvP zone and your standing still your gonna get attacked its that smiple.


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Killing someone during a fight is fine. Killing someone who was, as you put it, standing still (possibly roleplaying and typing something at the time) is naming YOURSELF a ganker...

If you're sick of it, there's a simple solution... Don't do it. Fly/SJ/SS/TP past and pick on someone who's fighting...

EDIT: Here's a thought for you. Do as you will, attack us all you want. On the first attack we will send you a tell asking you politely to stop. Should you choose to ignore us, we can then happily petition you and let the GM's sort it out.

By 'you' I mean ANYONE who chooses to do it, not just you personally.

Right where in my post have I siad that I get my jollys going around in a 8 man team looking for easy kills. As far as I can see that would be ganking but I dont do this its you making assumptions. The normal sized team I am in when I go to the PvP zone is just me or a couple of other people I would love to know how I can gank some one when Im solo please do tell me. Also what am I stealing from this person that has entered the PvP zone as far as I can see Im not taking any from them Im not giveing them debt.

Also as soon as you enter the zone you have flaged for self for PvP its not like WoW where there are PvP servers so your not safe any where. You have a choice if you dont want to get attacked by other players dont go to the PvP zones no ones making you go there are they.

This argument is going nowhere. Rock_Eagle, you're obviously never going to see things from our point of view. The OP was about places for villains and heroes to RP together.

This thread has, if nothing else, proven that, unless Cryptic make some changes, there is no, and will never be, a way for heroes and villains to roleplay in an open and safe environment together.

If you sent me a tell saying you where role playing I probaly would leave you alone. But most players probaly wouldnt all I can see your petion doing is you getting a back an email telling you dont go to the PvP zones.

It seems silly to me to complian about some one that is using the zone in the way it was intened to be used.

As I have siad before there should be a zone in wich Heros and Villains can interact in safly. But if you go in to the PvP zones you have Flaged your self for combat. Maybe a soloution would be a system that makes you unfalged for PvP but unable to do the PvP missons.

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snip I would love to know how I can gank some one when Im solo please do tell me. snip


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when player A , or multiple players attack player B when player B is trying to do something else

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So...it's perfectly ok for a Level 40 Blaster to attack 3 level 15 villains? Is that what you're saying?

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If there in the PvP zone they have as much chance as taking me down as I have of taking them down

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Your own words.

Maybe, but it's the only recourse we have. Maybe, if they end up getting enough petitions for this kind of thing, they MIGHT just consider giving us an RP zone... Very unlikely though.

Note: That is NOT an invite to freely bother us.

So, to aim back at the original topic. There are NO safe places where heroes and villains can RP in an environment where not only can they attack each other should the RP call for it, but are also safe from the rest of the general PvP population, and I doubt there ever will be.

We would need a zone that:

1) Gives no xp, debt, inf OR PvP rewards like reputation or bounty
2) Gives out free awakens that can only be used in that zone
3) Has no PvE mobs
4) Has plenty of differing architectures so we can simulate PvE areas of Paragon City.

Essentially, something like the arena, but with selectable environments that can be entered and exited at any time and have no time limits or other things that can end the session.

And whilst we're asking the impossible, how about some RP friendly emotes like laying down, sitting in chairs properly, being able to touch other's toons without that stupid 2-3 foot exclusion zone around them, and a hit box that's NOT situated 2 foot in front of your toon! Oh, and a roleplayers chat channel like Local.

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So...it's perfectly ok for a Level 40 Blaster to attack 3 level 15 villains? Is that what you're saying?

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If there in the PvP zone they have as much chance as taking me down as I have of taking them down

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So how is this ganking theres 1 of me and 3 of them. Also we have all been Exmp/Sk to the same lv I have the advantage of more slots and powers but they have the advantge of numbers. Looks like a fiar fight to me hell we can even test it out if you wanted.

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when player B is trying to do something else

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You've said you or your team will shoot anyone in the zone no matter what they're doing. This is not an FPS.

The arena would be perfect if you could chose the map and disable the match timer. Also is it possible for Hero Villain fights in the Arena.

I wouldn't say perfect, but usable at least...

Better than what you got at the mo and there is more chance of them doing that then there is of them making a Role Players Zone.

You think?

We've been asking them to make THOSE options available since arena's were first rumoured!!!

We won't get either, so we have no choice but to make do with what little there IS...

So that mean that the only safe place you have is the arena but as I siad I dont know if you can have Hero vs Villain combat there. But if you can Im sure there there are work arounds if there are not then it amazes me that Pen and Paper RPGs ever sold.

I think the main grief people have is that we're role-playing *despite* the game mechanics, not because of them. Obviously, we want some sort of RP-friendly content, the sooner the better, then we'll be out of your way PvP wise.