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I dunno. Instantaneous world wide communication seems pretty impressive to me. Sure it lacks the sheer chutzpah of going a couple of hundred thousand miles away from the planet in a tin can armed only with a slide rule, but it's still pretty darn impressive.
We've done some great strides and accomplishments since then. Just nothing quite as cheeky.
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250,000 is a bit more than a couple of hundred.
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Don't forget that the very computer you are typing on came from the technology that was needed for manned space flight.
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When they were landing the LEM the flight computer kicked the bucket. Armstrong had to land manually. He had 30 seconds of fuel on touchdown.
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250,000 is a bit more than a couple of hundred.
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That was an editing error. I meant to say a couple of hundred thousand.
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Don't forget that the very computer you are typing on came from the technology that was needed for manned space flight.
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Yet it wouldn't be until several years after the moon landing that computer technology would advance enough to handle something as sophisticated as Pong.
Clearly Pong > Space Flight.
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My iPod has ample computing power to take us back to the moon. I would be willing to donate it to NASA.
interesting conversation if hoax or not
i can state im not sure
could be hoax..
could not be...
i dont understand why someone would want to spend 100 billion dollars to go to the moon than spend it on making the place we have now liveable.
i can see why NASA is not being funded as it once was id rather see the money go to helping the masses
as Ood Sigma said....We will sing to you, Doctor. The universe will sing you to your sleep. This song is ending. But the story never ends.
But the Moon can help the masses. There is a wealth of resources there and it's our first step out into the universe at large. If the race is to survive then someday we will have to leave this solar system. Time to take those first small steps.
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My iPod has ample computing power to take us back to the moon. I would be willing to donate it to NASA.
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Comparing the iPhone 3GS to the Desktop tower PC that I was using back in college little over 10 years ago:
The iPhone has way more storage space: 32GB vs. ~1GB
The iPhone has a much faster processor: 600Mhz vs. 200Mhz
The iPhone has more RAM: 256MB vs 32MB
The iPhone has a better graphics card with the PowerVR SGX GPU.
The iPhone has a much better camera.
My old PC didn't even HAVE any form of wifi, and the 10mbs ethernet connection that wasn't even as fast as the speeds easily attained through wifi on an iPhone. Hell even the speeds over the 3G network are in that range. That's only if you were lucky enough to have any form of broadband back then. Most people still used 56k modems.
The jump in technology today isn't even in the same ballpark to what we were seeing just in the previous decade.
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Yes, but can you kick it down the stairs and leave it in the freezer for a day and still use it? ;7
Its not about computer power with space tech, its about radiation shielding, temperature tolerance, etc, etc. Sure Orion will be more up to date than the shuttle fleet, but it won't match general use electronics
((It's important to also note that computer technology has evolved along with advances in circuitry miniaturization, which has been a steady process that has been ongoing for decades. It has more effect on our everyday lives than the moon landing, but even so, it has much less impact than the development of art and written language. Is it an accomplishment? Yes. Is it as impressive as the Apollo program? No.
The moon landing was a result of some of the best and bravest people in our country coming together to accomplish an objective. And they were in competition with the best and bravest of our Cold War adversary. If the Russians had achieved it instead of us, it would have been no less impressive. Astronaut Mike Collins said that after Apollo 11, he, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong went on a world tour. People in other countries didn't come up to shake his hand saying, "You did it," or "America did it," they came up saying "We did it." It was one of those rare moments when it seemed as though humankind really could find unity and peace. It was a moment that inspired hope in people all over the world. As a single accomplishment, we haven't even come close to topping it.
I only wish the future I live in today could come close to the future that I could envision as a 10 year-old boy on July 20, 1969.))
I find it nothing less than astounding that a little more than a half century after Wilbur and Orville Wright made their first powered flight of 120 feet, we managed to fly people a quarter of a million miles from our home and back again.
I find it absolutely amazing that the first footsteps on a surface that was not our Earth were made by a man born in a place as humble and unassuming as Ohio.
Most of all, however, I find it profoundly disappointing that we haven't sent more to follow in his footsteps.
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I find it nothing less than astounding that a little more than a half century after Wilbur and Orville Wright made their first powered flight of 120 feet, we managed to fly people a quarter of a million miles from our home and back again.
I find it absolutely amazing that the first footsteps on a surface that was not our Earth were made by a man born in a place as humble and unassuming as Ohio.
Most of all, however, I find it profoundly disappointing that we haven't sent more to follow in his footsteps.
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I find it nothing less than astounding that a little more than a half century after Wilbur and Orville Wright made their first powered flight of 120 feet, we managed to fly people a quarter of a million miles from our home and back again.
I find it absolutely amazing that the first footsteps on a surface that was not our Earth were made by a man born in a place as humble and unassuming as Ohio.
Most of all, however, I find it profoundly disappointing that we haven't sent more to follow in his footsteps.
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I concur wholeheartedly.. Amen..
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No, it can't be.
At all.
Saying the moon landing could possibly be a hoax is like saying the existence of Belgium might be a hoax.
Belgium might be a JOKE surely, but definitely not a hoax.
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It didn't kick the bucket. It was turned off because it was taking them to a crater full of boulders.
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I find it nothing less than astounding that a little more than a half century after Wilbur and Orville Wright made their first powered flight of 120 feet, we managed to fly people a quarter of a million miles from our home and back again.
I find it absolutely amazing that the first footsteps on a surface that was not our Earth were made by a man born in a place as humble and unassuming as Ohio.
Most of all, however, I find it profoundly disappointing that we haven't sent more to follow in his footsteps.
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I concur wholeheartedly.. Amen..
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We dont need another moon landing. It was a great demonstration of engineering prowess, but that was it.
A good magician doesn't repeat his tricks.
We've been busy doing other cool stuff since then. Eradicating smallpox in 1979, making artifical limbs, constructing a global internet from the 90s onwards, building Super Hadron Colliders more recently.
I'd say we're still pretty amazing as a species, and havent been in the least bit disappointing since 1969.
If we go back again, it will be only to get ready for a Mars mission. I'm not saying that there isn't a lot that we can still learn from the Moon, but Mars would be the end goal.
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No, it can't be.
At all.
Saying the moon landing could possibly be a hoax is like saying the existence of Belgium might be a hoax.
Belgium might be a JOKE surely, but definitely not a hoax.
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However that being said it would be easy enough for a bunch of art college students to fake the moon landing to a sufficient level to fool the members of this forum. How many of you have actualy performed radiometric dating on genuine regiolith? Or actualy built and tested a lunar distancing laser? It is easy as anything to get someone in a lab coat to show a set of graphs and give you an interpretation of it, or get someone to pose in front of the Jodrel bank and spin a yarn about how they listened in on the actual flight and landing. Of course once you get to thinking that way you are only a short step away from having Truman Syndrome.
These days an entire launch will be scrubbed for a single smudged washer, but "back in the day" it was a lot more gung ho, to quote Alan Shepard "It's a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one's safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a government contract."
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I find the "did we and on the moon conspiracy theory silly" they always over look something, that was the height of the Cold War, if we faked it the Soviets would have called us on it. Trust me on this we did what we said we did, and the soviets knew it. How you may ask? 1st telescopes, every high powered telescope was on the moon landing mission. 2nd Radar, every tracking station in the world was fallowing the Moon Landing. 3erd Radio/video transmissions every radio antenna was tracking the moon landing. And finally Failure, not all the moon missions where successful, **Apollo 13** read the story on it.
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Finally and most importantly, we brought part of it back with us.
Moon rocks. Physical evidence examined by scientists around the world. Hard to beat actual real physical evidence.
The whole discussion about moon landing conspiracies just flatly ends at moon rocks.