fm/sd and dm/sd

which deals more dps? every1 goes with dm/sd and claims it to but iggy has the plyon soloing record...

Well DM/SD can do more DPS but.....Soul Drain kills every one before you can Solo a Plyon, so it doesn't help you there. For AVs I kill the AVs so fast that they still live, a long fight for me is 3 min with an AV. I don' know how fast Iggy solo AVs.

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If I'm remembering numbers correctly:

Iggy's Fire/Shield vs. Pylon = 276 DPS
Shred Monkey's Dark Melee/Shield vs. AV = 303 DPS

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Shred Monkey's Dark Melee/Shield vs. AV = 303 DPS


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Which AV and how fast if you remember at all?

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Shred Monkey's Dark Melee/Shield vs. AV = 303 DPS


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Which AV and how fast if you remember at all?

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It was Shadowhunter, but I don't remember the time. I do remember that I took into account the Dull Pain heal and buff. I'm sure I could work backward from the remembered 303 DPS, but I'm lazy.

If Shadwohunter triggers his Dull Pain “early” (i.e., when he can't take full advantage of the heal), then the 303 DPS might be overstated.

I believe Shred stated that he was at the cap for Against All Odds and Soul Drain for the whole fight.

we need to remember that the rikti plyon has 20% resistance to all dmg typpes besides PSI and shadowhunter has 0% resistance to all

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we need to remember that the rikti plyon has 20% resistance to all dmg typpes besides PSI and shadowhunter has 0% resistance to all

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Already taken into account.

Hey Werner? I'm a bit confused about this. It seems like it should be pretty simple but I get rather different results when I try to figure my DPS against stuff.

I was able to drop The Woodsman in about 2:45 from the first attack on him to when he dies.

Here's my question. AVs have 28,271.7 hp I believe. So 28,271.1/165 sec = 171.34 DPS? That seems kinda low for the time. What am I not understanding?

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Hey Werner? I'm a bit confused about this. It seems like it should be pretty simple but I get rather different results when I try to figure my DPS against stuff.

I was able to drop The Woodsman in about 2:45 from the first attack on him to when he dies.

Here's my question. AVs have 28,271.7 hp I believe. So 28,271.1/165 sec = 171.34 DPS? That seems kinda low for the time. What am I not understanding?

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your not takeing into account any of the other factors, ... mainly, the AV's REGEN

You have to take into account their regeneration, which is about 94.24 hit points per second. So add that to what you calculated, and you're at 266 DPS for the fight.

DPS = 28272 / seconds + 94.24

(At least for AVs with no heals or resistance.)

(Edit: Bah, too late.)

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Hey Werner? I'm a bit confused about this. It seems like it should be pretty simple but I get rather different results when I try to figure my DPS against stuff.

I was able to drop The Woodsman in about 2:45 from the first attack on him to when he dies.

Here's my question. AVs have 28,271.7 hp I believe. So 28,271.1/165 sec = 171.34 DPS? That seems kinda low for the time. What am I not understanding?

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your not takeing into account any of the other factors, ... mainly, the AV's REGEN

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Ahhh That's it of course! Thanks!

I feel rather dumb not to have realized that. Thanks for the insight though. Always learning.

Bah, he's 20% resistant to smashing too so that's a small factor I think. 266 is probably close enough.

That is retardedly high, the highest I've ever gone with my fire/regen is 185. I can't wait till I get Draft Punk my Fire/Shield up to 50.

Ok so I was bored today and wanted to see how much DPS I was putting out. So I saw Powerforge solo Woodsman so I thought I would do it. I made an AE mish and started to solo him. The thing is I stop because he had Spirit Tree and it was healing him. Then I was thinking of a good AV to solo for Time, Romulus Augustus would be good no resis and only 15% def. So I put him in the mish and didn't change anything, like the name it still says Woodsman. So Start of the fight and here is the End of the fight. the hole fight took 2:21. So that is 141 sec.

I look at his hitpoints before the fight and he had 28270.0
So
28270.0/141+94.24=294.74DPS

294.74DPS is not bad at all

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Stop making me want a DM/SD! Stop posting proof of how awesome it is! Just stop!

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If I'm remembering numbers correctly:

Iggy's Fire/Shield vs. Pylon = 276 DPS
Shred Monkey's Dark Melee/Shield vs. AV = 303 DPS

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That's the highest I got fire up to...
so not even close...
maybe I could punch it up a few more points but I doubt I'm gonna be spending that amount of inf on a pvp +def IO...

What is the DPS formula for Chimera? Is it the standard +94.24?

The lack of AoE for DM can be annoying. I've been looking at Energy Torrent and Exploding Shuriken to give a little boost in that aspect.

Neither seems particulary appealing to be honest, Exploding Shuriken does come with Caltrops which does a decent-ish damage spread over 45 seconds, but it also scatters something fierce which beats the purpose for a /SD.

Exploding Shuriken is a targeted AoE, so no need to jump in an out of the spawn losing the AaO buff, but a 10.5 second recharge over such measly damage doesn't seem that interesting, but it would hit everything around different from SM that just hits 2-3 mobs. Of course SM can be done twice in the recharge of one Exploding Shuriken which evens the odds again.

Energy Torrent would mean just trading Shadow Maul (and changing Smite's sloting from Crushing Impact to ToD), and it does do KD, which is nice, but the cone is not that large and jumping in and out of the spawn can be a pain. Still, it recharges in 8 seconds and does half of SM's damage with the promise of hitting twice as many, or more, mobs which again would make it pretty similar in DPS output, but easier to point and with added mitigation from the KD.

I think Energy Torrent looks the better choice so far.

I longingly look at Soul Mastery patrol pool for brutes with its cone *and* targeted AoE. For that one thing alone I'd switch my scrapper for a brute.

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It's Gimpy Werner. Don't do it.

I just got my Fire/SD to level 50 today, with plans to IO him to the gills and now I'm seeing all this DM/SD stuff and thinking....


man that self heal would be nice.

Too bad double XP is over in a few hours.