CoH is crashing my computer

The game has worked fine on my computer for years, but recently the game will randomly cause my computer to just shut down, sometimes within minutes of logging in, sometimes hours.

at first i thought it might be a heat problem, but the computer operates fine for days at a time, and then shuts down when i go into CoH. sometimes i have it shut off for hours to cool, and then it still shuts off as soon as i go into the game. Other even more video intensive game do not cause this problem at all.

I'm running Windows Vista 32 bit, NVidia 8800 gts video card, 4 gigs of ram, and a 2.4 GHz dual core processor.

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

Might wanna start with the common solutions thread and also posting your cohhelper and hijack this log (see my sig).

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So you thought it might be heat, but didn't actually check the heatsinks, fans and such because non-Co* operations is good?

Yep. Sounds like Co* is doing what it does best: Kill computers that aren't cooling right. You might want to actually do the heatsink/fan check and clean/fix if needed... but of course, that also means that I read all that right.

And what Tease said, of course, should that have been done.

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August 31, 2012. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Or Information. Possibly Influence. Well, Inf, anyway. Thank you, Paragon Studios, for what you did, and the enjoyment and camaraderie you brought.
This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012

nah, i've cleaned out my comp a few times thinking it could be heat, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.

As i said, sometimes i'd let it cool down completely, then turn it on, go straight to CoH, and it'd crash right away.

I just tried using the windows hotfixes, they said they would have no effect on my system. I tried rolling back my drivers, still no luck.

Here is what i get with CoH Helper:

---System information gathered by CoH Helper version 0.1.1.7---

DxDiag gathered at July 16, 2009 15:26 (-07:00)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: 122-CK-NF68
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Central Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2814MB
.Net Memory Report: 1418MB out of 2813MB available
Page File: 4306MB (1528MB currently in use)
C Drive: (ST332062 0AS SCSI Disk Device) 38540MB out of 305242MB (12%) free
D Drive: (ST332062 0AS SCSI Disk Device) 15449MB out of 305234MB (5%) free
H Drive: (ST310003 40AS SCSI Disk Device) 36245MB out of 953859MB (3%) free
E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22L ATA Device) zero-size drive
I Drive: (STWHK 8LYNKTEJC9Q SCSI CdRom Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: C:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 10
DirectX Diag version: 6.00.6001.18000 (32-bit version)

Display Notes: No problems found.

No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.

No problems found.

No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.

Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce 8800 GTS
Video Memory: 1435 MB
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.6925
Driver Date: 12/11/2007 5:06:00 PM
Driver Language: English

Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Manufacturer / Chip: NVIDIA / GeForce 8800 GTS
Video Memory: 1435 MB
Driver Version: 7.15.0011.6925
Driver Date: 12/11/2007 5:06:00 PM
Driver Language: English

Sound Device Description: Speakers (Envy24 Family Audio Controller WDM)
Driver File: Envy24HF.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.3654
Driver Date: 6/4/2008 6:29:10 PM

Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
Driver File: HdAudio.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.6002.18005
Driver Date: 4/10/2009 9:43:04 PM

Sound Device Description: Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (Envy24 Family Audio Controller WDM)
Driver File: Envy24HF.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.3654
Driver Date: 6/4/2008 6:29:10 PM


WMI Information
Motherboard Manufacturer: EVGA
Motherboard Model: (empty)
Motherboard Product: 122-CK-NF68
Motherboard Version: 2
BIOS Manufacturer: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Name: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
BIOS Version: Nvidia - 42302e31
BIOS Release: 20070112000000.000000+000

Registry Information for Current User
Resolution: 1658x983
3D Resolution: 1658x983 (Not using renderscale)
Full Screen: No
Maximized: No
Screen Position: 0, 0
Refresh Rate: 60Hz
Vertical Sync Enabled: No

Physics Quality: None
Maximum Particles: 100
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No

Anti-aliasing: None
Anisotropic Filtering: None
Texture LOD Bias: Crisp
Water Effects: None
Bloom: 1.000 (turned off)
Depth of Field Enabled: No
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: No
Shader Detail: Lowest

World Texture Level: Low
Character Texture Level: Medium
World Detail Level (Vis_Scale): 0.500
Entity Detail Level: 0.500
Shadows Enabled: No
Gamma Correction: 1.000
Geometry Buffers (VBOs) Enabled: Yes
Suppression of Extra Player FX Enabled: No
Suppression of FX When Camera Close Enabled: Yes
Close Suppression Range: 3.000
Show Advertisements: Yes

Audio Mode: Performance
3D Audio: Yes
FX Sound Volume: 0.052
Music Sound Volume: 0.000

Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.000
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 414224 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 19.20090702.5T2
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files\City of Heroes

Mod files in the Data directory
.\texture_library\GUI\Icons\Powers has 120 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\city has 1 file
.\texture_library\MAPS\Safeguard has 9 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\sewers has 44 files
.\texture_library\MAPS\static has 34 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Outdoor_Missions has 9 files
.\texture_library\V_MAPS\Static has 16 files

And here's the HJ log

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 3:29:20 PM, on 7/16/2009
Platform: Windows Vista SP2 (WinNT 6.00.1906)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6002.18005)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
C:\Windows\System32\mobsync.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Lycosa\razerhid.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Copperhead\razerhid.exe
C:\Program Files\Seagate\DiscWizard\DiscWizardMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Seagate\DiscWizard\TimounterMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Seagate\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe
C:\Program Files\VIA\VIAudioi\EnvyADeck\EnMixCPL.exe
C:\Windows\ehome\ehtray.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\Users\Bo\AppData\Local\Google\Update\GoogleUpda te.exe
C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\daemon.exe
C:\Program Files\WiFiConnector\NintendoWFCReg.exe
C:\Windows\ehome\ehmsas.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmpnscfg.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Beta 4\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Copperhead\razerofa.exe
C:\Program Files\Razer\Lycosa\razertra.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Windows\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Users\Bo\Desktop\Tamers\CohHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = about:blank
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Int ernet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
O1 - Hosts: ::1 localhost
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Skype add-on (mastermind) - {22BF413B-C6D2-4d91-82A9-A0F997BA588C} - C:\Program Files\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\SkypeIEPlugin.dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In SSV Helper - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google Toolbar\GoogleToolbar.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google Toolbar - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google Toolbar\GoogleToolbar.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows Defender] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe -hide
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinampAgent] "C:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PWRISOVM.EXE] C:\Program Files\PowerISO\PWRISOVM.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UnlockerAssistant] "C:\Program Files\Unlocker\UnlockerAssistant.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Lycosa] "C:\Program Files\Razer\Lycosa\razerhid.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [razer] C:\Program Files\Razer\Copperhead\razerhid.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DiscWizardMonitor.exe] C:\Program Files\Seagate\DiscWizard\DiscWizardMonitor.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AcronisTimounterMonitor] C:\Program Files\Seagate\DiscWizard\TimounterMonitor.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Seagate Scheduler2 Service] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Seagate\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [EnvyHFCPL] C:\Program Files\VIA\VIAudioi\EnvyADeck\EnMixCPL.exe 1
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nmapp] "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvSvc] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\Windows\system32\nvsvc.dll,nvsvcStart
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\Windows\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\Windows\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsWelcomeCenter] rundll32.exe oobefldr.dll,ShowWelcomeCenter
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ehTray.exe] C:\Windows\ehome\ehTray.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [swg] C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\1.2.1128.5462\G oogleToolbarNotifier.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Google Update] "C:\Users\Bo\AppData\Local\Google\Update\GoogleUpd ate.exe" /c
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\daemon.exe" -autorun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WMPNSCFG] C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\WMPNSCFG.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [WindowsWelcomeCenter] rundll32.exe oobefldr.dll,ShowWelcomeCenter (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - Global Startup: HP Digital Imaging Monitor.lnk = C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Run Registration Tool.lnk = C:\Program Files\WiFiConnector\NintendoWFCReg.exe
O4 - Global Startup: TVTonic Control Panel.lnk = C:\Program Files\Wavexpress\TVTonic\TVTonicControlPanel.exe
O9 - Extra button: Skype - {77BF5300-1474-4EC7-9980-D32B190E9B07} - C:\Program Files\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\SkypeIEPlugin.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/ge...sh/swflash.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{A8C33FB6-FF57-4734-B872-50A64B90D15C}: NameServer = 64.59.168.13,64.59.168.15
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{D7629DB1-F13D-455F-A0B4-5FF95FE91FB0}: NameServer = 192.168.0.1
O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1830C7DD7F5D} - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\Skype\SKYPE4~1.DLL
O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Windows DreamScene - {E31004D1-A431-41B8-826F-E902F9D95C81} - C:\Windows\System32\DreamScene.dll
O23 - Service: ##Id_String1.6844F930_1628_4223_B5CC_5BB94B879762# # (Bonjour Service) - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Macrovision Europe Ltd. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe
O23 - Service: Google Updater Service (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Pure Networks Net2Go Service (nmraapache) - Pure Networks, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network Magic\WebServer\bin\nmraapache.exe
O23 - Service: Pure Networks Network Magic Service (nmservice) - Pure Networks, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network Magic\nmsrvc.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe
O23 - Service: SBSD Security Center Service (SBSDWSCService) - Safer Networking Ltd. - C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDWinSec.exe
O23 - Service: Seagate Scheduler2 Service (SgtSch2Svc) - Seagate - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Seagate\Schedule2\schedul2.exe
O23 - Service: StarWind AE Service (StarWindServiceAE) - Rocket Division Software - C:\Program Files\Alcohol Soft\Alcohol 120\StarWind\StarWindServiceAE.exe
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: TVTonic RSS (WXRSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Wavexpress\TVTonic\WXRSS.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Yahoo! Updater (YahooAUService) - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\SoftwareUpdate\YahooAUService.exe

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

I have also started crashing recently with the last few patches. Prior to that, never had a problem. I updated the drivers for my 8800 GTX graphics card, but no change.

Something got broke in those last few patches. I am not experiencing this problem with any other application.

Hope it gets fixed soon.

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well, i had this problem a little while back too, sometime after MA came out. the problem eventually went away, then it started showing up again, (happened while playing on test server testing khan TF), then i hadn't seen it again until yesterday when it happened 7 times

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

Bo, please go to your control panel, administrative tools, Event Viewer, Windows Logs sub-section, System subsection. Scroll back to immediately before your most recent crash and tell me what you have of interest that may be flagged Warning/Error/Critical. Also be sure that in the System Properties window (right click on my computer, select Properties), Advanced tab, Startup & Recovery button, that you have "Write an event to the system log" checked, under system failure. (Your exact verbage may be a little different but similar.)

This doesn't sound like the error 13/14 bug in general, and your also right the hotfix doesn't apply to you because your running SP2 which includes it. Since its not that error, using the 169 drivers probably arent benefiting you, and I'd upgrade to the 185s. (The 186's have some hiccups on occasion).

Also, install a copy of (free) speedfan, and keep an eye on both your CPU and GPU temps, and post them back here for us both after the system has been idle and non-gaming for some time and after you've had the system under load (gaming) a while.

I notice that several of your system drives have very little free-space, and that can make windows have hiccups. Something you may want to resolve. Also, make sure your board/chipset drivers are up-to-date. Hmm, you have a heck of a lot of stuff running at start-up that could be chewing up system resources in odd ways, I'd suggest reducing that list substantially at least temporarily and preferably permanently but thats just good system mechanics.

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In looking at the log, I see you have dual... something video. Whether that's GPUs or monitors or both...

Dual Monitors/Dual GPUs might be an issue to try to take out of the equation, if only for testing, if possible.

And your drivers aren't very new. 169.25s.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

According to this, if you check Geforce, 8 series, 8800GTS, Vista 32, they're up to 186 as WHQLs, although the 185s are supposed to be the right ones to run. Your drivers don't show up, and would be pre September 2008. Time to upgrade, methinks, that might do the trick.

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August 31, 2012. A Day that will Live in Infamy. Or Information. Possibly Influence. Well, Inf, anyway. Thank you, Paragon Studios, for what you did, and the enjoyment and camaraderie you brought.
This is houtex, aka Mike, signing off the forums. G'night all. - 10/26/2012
Well... perhaps I was premature about that whole 'signing off' thing... - 11-9-2012

Ack, I totally missed the dual video setting houtex. Definitely take that out of the question. The video card setting needs to be in single-monitor performance (I think thats it) mode for game handling. The game also has issues with SLI compatability and although many get it to work its not supported I dont believe.

I think he rolled drivers back to the 169's hoping it was the error 13/14 bug, since thats the driver it calls for testing.

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when i turn on my comp, i usually go to my processes and turn off whatever i know i can (such as the HP crap), but there's still tons of sytems things left. I just went and disabled a bunch of the startup stuff i could.

Checking my event log doesn't seem to reveal any info. It simply says "The previous system shutdown at 3:17:04 PM on 7/16/2009 was unexpected." However there are no logs around that time that say anything relevant (just stuff about my computer booting)

As for my temps, at the moment with only firefox running
GPU 64
System -65 ?
CPU 58
AUX 43
CPU 57
Local 55
Remote 2 57
Core 0 59
Core 1 57

I'm not sure what all of those represent, i wasn't sure which CPU to list.

Running Sims 3, most of the settings to max

GPU 75
System -65
CPU 96
AUX 45
CPU 70
Local 65
Remote 2 70
Core 0 -30
Core 1 -33

I can try and find out what they are for CoH, but it will likely crash my comp, so i'll just post this for now.

The driver that i had listed was the rollback that i did by following the link in your sig. I had a more recent one before

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

things just keep going from bad to worse.

So, pretty much right after submitting that post, my comp crashed, and this time it had nothing to do with CoH.

Truth be told, it is about 45 degrees out, so my comp was probably running hotter than normal, but i figured it must be heat, and that CoH is just making it abnormally hot sometimes.

So, i opened my computer, and noticed that the heat sink was starting to become detached from the processor, so i took it off, cleaned them both, and re-applied the thermal grease.

I made sure everything was nice and secure, and turned on my comp. Nothing happened. Power goes through it, the fans spin, but it doesn't beep, and my mouse, keyboard and screen stay blank and unpowered.

Now i have no idea what to do. (i'm posting this from my mac atm) I have no idea why it's not starting. I even double checked it to make sure everything is connected properly

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

[ QUOTE ]
things just keep going from bad to worse.

So, pretty much right after submitting that post, my comp crashed, and this time it had nothing to do with CoH.

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What did it do when it crashed? Did it power off? Did it give a windows stop code? Did it just go black with a flashing white cursor? Was there an error message? Did it reboot itself?

[ QUOTE ]
Truth be told, it is about 45 degrees out, so my comp was probably running hotter than normal, but i figured it must be heat, and that CoH is just making it abnormally hot sometimes.

So, i opened my computer, and noticed that the heat sink was starting to become detached from the processor, so i took it off, cleaned them both, and re-applied the thermal grease.

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Yeah, that's not good.

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I made sure everything was nice and secure, and turned on my comp. Nothing happened. Power goes through it, the fans spin, but it doesn't beep, and my mouse, keyboard and screen stay blank and unpowered.

Now i have no idea what to do. (i'm posting this from my mac atm) I have no idea why it's not starting. I even double checked it to make sure everything is connected properly

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Well, if the proc was that hot it can take a while to cool down before it will work again. Leave it unplugged for a few hours, check all the connections, and give it another go.

We had a server get baked once at a place I worked, and we literally threw the processor in the freezer for 10 minutes to get it to a good temp.

Barring that, my best guess is your last crash finally cooked your mo-bo. The processor overheating will only rarely kill the proc, and if it does, it will still give you a beep code most of the time. But the proc overheating can cook the circuitry around the proc on the mo-bo. Your system core temp rises when that big hot bit of silicon and metal sits there and burns.

The most likely situation is you need a new mo-bo, but I'd get a new system board and proc combo if I were you. Your fans spin so we know your PSU is probably good.

How about your video card? What happens if you yank it and try to boot? Any beeps?

Hate to say it, but the prognosis here may not be that good. But lets not give up hope yet. Try removing all peripherals from the system, reseat memory, check connections, and see if you can get it to at least beep at you. A beeping computer still has hope!

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yeah, it just shut off without warning or anything.

The Mobo has a little lcd display (like digital clocks) which normally displays "FF" when things were running normally.

When i turn it on now, it just says "--"

I'll give it a few hours to ool, and then try again

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

also, the mobo i have has it's own heatsink and fan, but unlike all the other comp fans, this one isn't turning. Another sign pointing towards the mobo being fried?

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@Yuuden on Victory Server.
Badge count as of 02/01/11: 1165

Possibly, it's also possible that this fan could have been the other source of the troubles all along. It's most likely a Northbridge chipset fan, although I've seen some boards with an odd heat sink and fan arrangement.

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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.

Black Pebble is my new hero.

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Running Sims 3, most of the settings to max

GPU 75
System -65
CPU 96
AUX 45
CPU 70
Local 65
Remote 2 70
Core 0 -30
Core 1 -33

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If that's C, it's still a little hot, ya ask me, for a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz

Here's my processor:
Central Processor: [/b]Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.7GHz

Running Co* after about 10 minutes, here's the speed fan info:
GPU 66C (Riva Tuner)
CPU 52C (all rest SpeedFan)
CPU 50C
Core 0 57C
Core 1 56C

Now, granted, mine is a 1333 FSB and yours is a 1066FSB, which means an 8 vs 9 multiplier, but man... that still seems whacked out on the CPU temps. A 96C CPU temp is 205F, and that is *hot*. By comparison, my 52C is 125F.

Now, the core temps at -30? That's messed up... but if the others are right, then perhaps it's a rollover issue, and it's really 129c and 132C, respectively, in which case, how did it not catch fire? o.0

Anyone else think this is weird looking? Or is it just me?

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i dunno, that's just what i had lol.

it looks like it's the mobo. it's just a shame that that last crash finished it off, since after adjusting it and fixing the sink it probably would have been.

As for the mobo fan/sink it had been working fine when i checked it the other day for dust

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96 C is way too hot for a Core 2 at stock settings. I'd guess the CPU cooked the motherboard (and perhaps the motherboard made that happen). My first guess is that your CPU was getting massively overvolted somehow, and... yeah, that would be the motherboard's fault.

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That's definitely heat, I would say. I noticed your GPU was running at 75, as well, and I'm told anything above 70 is dangerous. Mine runs at 51-52 idle (or when browsing or doing anything other than gaming) and climbs up to around 62 when I run something graphics-intensive. Yours is running hotter idle than mine does under load, and that sounds like a problem.

96 for a CPU, as well, seems pretty much massively over the top. If that hasn't fried your processor, it probably will in short order.

Generally speaking, any time your computer restarts itself directly back to bios, hangs such that keyboard input doesn't work or gives you a blue screen talking about devices or their drivers, it's something hardware-related, either a fried board or an overheating problem. Or it could actually be insufficient power, like I had a PC restart because my power supply wasn't powerful enough, but that doesn't sound like it's relevant to your problem.

Get a programme to monitor the heat of your CPUs and your GPU and run it from time to time when you expect to do some gaming, just to keep an eye on things.

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Assuming its able to boot onto the hard drive normally, the board lcd code of FF, on 99% of all boards still stands for "that fugger failed". Something has been amiss for a while if you've been getting FF as a board-code. Google for your bio type and post-code chart to verify this. (Some boards will still toss an FF if the HD is not attached and/or bootable as the bios expects to hand off to a drive.) Half a bazillion sub-steps in the POST procedure could be triggering an FF display, not all of which are hugely important.

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