Release Notes for Build 19.20090702.4T - 7/15/09
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Posted on: 2009-07-14 15:01 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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pvp's last night with new patch for 3 hours straight was a 4 on 6 us on the team of 4. got a total of 14 rep out of 3 hours of steady back and forth. No one on our team got a drop at all.
Unless I am mistaken with each rep kill all 4 of us on the team get a chance, for a chance to get a drop.
As in team mate "A" kills enemy "B" to trigger rep. this kill allows each of us on a team to get a chance for a dop. butr since we are on a team that chance is diluted between us all.
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I think the Developers will see that the drops need to be changed after a few days/weeks of virtually no drops now that this patch is live. I'd expect a patch/change at that point. It seems they would rather see the results of their most recent patch before correcting what appears to be very obvious mistakes to most forum posters.
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6 months to a year at the earliest. Or sometime after they fix the COP.
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You live in a fantasy world, don't you?
The Devs never plan on fixing anything base related, just pvp.
My Lego Models http://www.flickr.com/photos/30369639@N07/ lemur lad: God you can't be that stupid... I'm on at the same time as you for once, and not 20 minutes into it you give me something worth petitioning?Lady-Dee: Hey my fat keeps me warm in the winter and shady in the summer.
Hedge forgot to hit the sarcasm button, but I read it that way. 
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And I'll notice no one's brought back a definition for griefing :P
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We don't need a definition, we aren't the ones whining about getting attacked in a pvp zone.
But here you go
Definition: anything you think is griefing in pve is ok in pvp.
Off the top of my head here's what you can't do "legally" while pvp'ing:
-use map glitches.
-verbally assault anyone (ie racist comments).
Anything else you might think constitutes griefing does not and you are wrong.
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i agree with this completely. If ur in PvP then why the hell would u complain when another player kills u, and another thing...... Whats with all this "dual' [censored] in PvP.. u wanna duel then go to Pocket D, or the arena. I don't care what ur doing, if I see u Imma kill u, hell I might even tp u into some drones and just sit back and watch THEM kill u.. as long as u die I don't care how it happens. The ONLY RULES THAT MATTER in PvP are the ones setforth by the contract and the devs. Thats it. I don't care if u think inspirations are not legal in PvP... says who...?
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You're forgetting that those who have no interest in PvPing are forced to go to those zones to get goodies like nukes and Shivans.
I was gonna say that lately I've seen players cooperate in BB to take out turrets, but you know... I won't, cause you may get the irresistable impulse to go harrass them.
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And I'll notice no one's brought back a definition for griefing :P
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We don't need a definition, we aren't the ones whining about getting attacked in a pvp zone.
But here you go
Definition: anything you think is griefing in pve is ok in pvp.
Off the top of my head here's what you can't do "legally" while pvp'ing:
-use map glitches.
-verbally assault anyone (ie racist comments).
Anything else you might think constitutes griefing does not and you are wrong.
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i agree with this completely. If ur in PvP then why the hell would u complain when another player kills u, and another thing...... Whats with all this "dual' [censored] in PvP.. u wanna duel then go to Pocket D, or the arena. I don't care what ur doing, if I see u Imma kill u, hell I might even tp u into some drones and just sit back and watch THEM kill u.. as long as u die I don't care how it happens. The ONLY RULES THAT MATTER in PvP are the ones setforth by the contract and the devs. Thats it. I don't care if u think inspirations are not legal in PvP... says who...?
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You're forgetting that those who have no interest in PvPing are forced to go to those zones to get goodies like nukes and Shivans.
I was gonna say that lately I've seen players cooperate in BB to take out turrets, but you know... I won't, cause you may get the irresistable impulse to go harrass them.
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Player with no interest in PVE are forced to spend 50 levels there...you going there for shivans and nukes is w/e dude
Which is why there should be PvP only toons, auto-lvled to 50, or at least 40. Kinda like a certain other MMO does. The 2 sides would have best of both worlds. And then maybe devs would be freed up to create more new content, instead of spending so much time tweaking powers to "balance" both sides.
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And I'll notice no one's brought back a definition for griefing :P
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We don't need a definition, we aren't the ones whining about getting attacked in a pvp zone.
But here you go
Definition: anything you think is griefing in pve is ok in pvp.
Off the top of my head here's what you can't do "legally" while pvp'ing:
-use map glitches.
-verbally assault anyone (ie racist comments).
Anything else you might think constitutes griefing does not and you are wrong.
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i agree with this completely. If ur in PvP then why the hell would u complain when another player kills u, and another thing...... Whats with all this "dual' [censored] in PvP.. u wanna duel then go to Pocket D, or the arena. I don't care what ur doing, if I see u Imma kill u, hell I might even tp u into some drones and just sit back and watch THEM kill u.. as long as u die I don't care how it happens. The ONLY RULES THAT MATTER in PvP are the ones setforth by the contract and the devs. Thats it. I don't care if u think inspirations are not legal in PvP... says who...?
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You're forgetting that those who have no interest in PvPing are forced to go to those zones to get goodies like nukes and Shivans.
I was gonna say that lately I've seen players cooperate in BB to take out turrets, but you know... I won't, cause you may get the irresistable impulse to go harrass them.
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When anything in the game actually requires shivians or nukes you might have a point. But until then...
Helps to have em when you go up against the entire Freedom Phalanx at once...
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[*]Removed Mending Mitochondria from Devouring Earth enemy group.
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*giggles*
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Thank Goodness, they need a fix and overhaul. Those Chain healing Globs were broken. Once they hit you, self healing inspirations and powers don't work at all. They also jump around and move after you push them with a force field.
Rikti raids will be back in full swing with the explosion animation fixed too.
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Everyone around here that was bashing the mending mitochondria, did you ever stop to think about why they were so lame? I'm seriously dissapointed in the devs. They must be incredibly lazy not to test this wierd phenomena out.
For those who wanted to know why a Hammi mob would not attack back would have tested it to find out. It turns out with just a little tweaking, that it was a bug on the MM. If you made the mission with lvl 50 hammi's they actually fought you back.
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If you lowered the level cap to 49, then the bug kicked in and the only thing that the Hammi could do was to heal itself and others.
Personally, I would have loved to see the Devs not remove the Hammi from the AE but fix it.
How funny would it have been to see these lazy people gather their 8 hero/villan groups and venture into a Hammi easy kill mish only to get close enough to get blasted back to the entrance zone?
NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUSTICE!
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Removed Mending Mitochondria from Devouring Earth enemy group.
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I would have preferred they merely be stripped down to zero or near-zero XP and left in, but it doesn't affect me personally.
Any chance of giving us a rough count of how many characters have been or are about to be deleted for exploiting this? This exploit ran wild for a long, long time, the number of people abusing the heck out of it can't be very small.
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Although I agree with you that it ran far too long, how can you blame any players for exploiting a weakness in the game? No one should be banned for this, Dev's should be fired before players are banned.
If you found a bug in the game, sent an in game /bug message and after 3 patches it was not corrected, then why in HELL would you ban a player from using it?
Piss poor coding is no reason to remove players, its a reason to replace developers.
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Helps to have em when you go up against the entire Freedom Phalanx at once...
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When anything in the game actually requires shiv's or nukes....
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Helps to have em when you go up against the entire Freedom Phalanx at once...
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When anything in the game actually requires shiv's or nukes....
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K, how bout having to enter PvP zones for explore badges and plaques required for accolades. Yes accolades boosting your end or hps are not required (duh), but they're sure nice to have.
Strange to hear from a PvPer that you don't wanna bring all you can to a fight.
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Although I agree with you that it ran far too long, how can you blame any players for exploiting a weakness in the game?
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Because they were warned several times, in several forms, not to? Nah, that can't be it.
If a player is dumb enough to flirt with danger that long, they deserve what they get when the GMs and CS catch up to them.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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And I'll notice no one's brought back a definition for griefing :P
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We don't need a definition, we aren't the ones whining about getting attacked in a pvp zone.
But here you go
Definition: anything you think is griefing in pve is ok in pvp.
Off the top of my head here's what you can't do "legally" while pvp'ing:
-use map glitches.
-verbally assault anyone (ie racist comments).
Anything else you might think constitutes griefing does not and you are wrong.
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i agree with this completely. If ur in PvP then why the hell would u complain when another player kills u, and another thing...... Whats with all this "dual' [censored] in PvP.. u wanna duel then go to Pocket D, or the arena. I don't care what ur doing, if I see u Imma kill u, hell I might even tp u into some drones and just sit back and watch THEM kill u.. as long as u die I don't care how it happens. The ONLY RULES THAT MATTER in PvP are the ones setforth by the contract and the devs. Thats it. I don't care if u think inspirations are not legal in PvP... says who...?