No missions ever added to Ouroboros?
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Aces_High,
Posted on: 2009-07-09 10:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Other than those, I'm not sure of any major storyarcs that aren't in the Flashback system.
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Major story arcs, no. Minor story arcs, there are many. Most villainside contacts have two arcs, a major one and a minor one, and the minor ones aren't accessible through Flashback.
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As far as I can see, the only story arcs of any size that villains don't have access to in Ouroboros are the Patron arcs. There are some standalone missions, or 2 part missions, but those aren't arcs. Arcs, whether major or minor, give souvenirs.
"I wish my life was a non-stop Hollywood movie show,
A fantasy world of celluloid villains and heroes."
Ideally I'd like to see every mission accessible through Ouroboros. But the chief ones that are missing to my way of thinking are Mayhems and Safeguards, "minor" story arcs, and some of the ones scattered throughout the game with custom maps not seen anywhere else, such as the Hellion mission with the fiery red office map and the Devouring Earth mission where a whole building is covered with green mold.
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The purpose of the Ouroboros is to going back and redo entire storyarcs that you may/may not have missed. Mayhems are just missions that don't affect the story of the game.
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We're allowed to flashback into all badge missions that are not inside arcs, so why not let us back into Mayhems, which do have badges inside them. That is the main reason it's so annoying to miss one, you need all of them for the Invader accolade.
Heck, Why do you even need Oroborous for that. Like nothing ever happens in AP when you are level 20. I think you should still be able to get missions and work on the older Mayhem/SG's
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My main concern on this has been how devs have screwed villains on this. Villains have no way to go back to get mayhem badges for the accolade.
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No way to go back and get badges...except to ask around for a lower character that has it to help...just like a hero has to do.
"Screwed" is too strong a word here, EvilRyu. Inconvenienced, maybe a bit more than heroes because of the lower pop, but not screwed.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
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Really Heroes have Accolade missions not in Ouroborous?
Or did you mean the Safeguard stuff that serves no ingame purpose for Heroes?
So tell me how many Hero Accolades require the Hero to go into a PvP Zone?
Villains largely got screwed with Accolades.
But why would you care about that hmm?
I play both sides. Do you? I'm well aware of the badge requirements for villains. I still say they doth protest too much, especially considering how much of a ghostland the average pvp zone outside of RV is these days.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
I play mostly Redside because I enjoy the AT's more. I've been playing this game since one week after launch though. So I do know what the Blueside has to offer.
IN regards to the PvP stuff your right they are emptier than they used to be,which is because of the changes made to PvP in I13. So while a Villain may never have to actually PvP(which was always true in regards to the badges) they do have to deal with the PvP power changes while working on a mostly PvE goal.
This is a problem in design.
Generally your right that Redside does complain too much, however I think most of it is warranted and some of the most common complaints have had very little done to address them.
The Cuda SF is a good sign though. Considering how it looked in Beta and how it looks now.
I think that any mission that gives out a temp power should also be added to Ouroboros.
Sure some people like to collect badges and Ouroboros is great for that, but some people like to collect temp powers, and a number of them can't be gotten through Ouroboros.
Can't argue with that.
I think there's only a few missions that give temp powers but are not part of an arc as most times temps are given during arcs.
I don't care about Calvin Scott, but what I wanna see on Ouroboros is the Patron arcs.
I guess it might be hard to do or something, I dunno. I just sometimes wanna redo those arcs because they are about the most epic stuff red-side has to offer, and was surprised to see you can't flashback to them. I suppose it's because the Devs don't want a single toon to complete all four Patrons, but couldn't they still make it so that only your Patron of choice is flashbackable? I mean, they can do that with HEAT/VEAT and unlockable villain contacts already.