Tanked him with my WP/ a couple nights in a row (we weren't able to finish the first night for out-of-game reasons, so came back the next evening for Round Two!). Got dropped once the first night, more due to my cranio-rectal inversion than anything else. No defeats in the rematch. But I have to point out that the team had a terrific Emp and Kin, both of whom were ready with the green glowing goodness when it was needed.
Looking forward to trying it with either my namesake (old-school firetank rebuilt into something workable) or another one I've been leveling on a different server, with a different build idea. Might be seeing a whole lot of the floor, but it'll be fun trying!
"And in this moment, I will not run.
It is my place to stand.
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands."
I've played a fire/fire tank since Issue 2 and can say, you need IO's. In my opinion any way. Yes fire/fire tanks are squishy, but ....key word being but...., it you build it right, you can be amazingly awesome.
My tank has bout 72% resist to S/L, about 37% defense to melee, 15-20% ranged/aoe, can't exactly remember right off my head, and has no end issues what so ever, recharging like 3.3 end a second or something like that, with the performance shifter chance for end firing off every once in a while on top of that.
My toon is AoE oriented too, so he does awesome group damage.
The thing is, you just need to stick with him, and build him up. I hate to say it but SO's don't really cut it anymore, at least not with fire tanks and not if you want to be effective
I tanked Reichsman with my lvl 50 Invy/Stone tanker without a problem. Team make up probably had a big effect on that. The TF was set to Invincible, the team leader was level 47 and besides my tanker we had 2 controllers (Ill/Storm), 3 defenders (Dark/?, Rad/?, & Empathy/?), 2 blasters and a scrapper. All of them were level 50 or high 40s.
The only hiccup we had was the scrapper face planting early in the battle.
"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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My Will Tanker has capped Energy defense and never went below 70% against Reischman. I think he's kinda a weenie personally.
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I give up. Starting a willpower tank or stone tomorrow. This guy is on the scrap heap when do Fire tanks........get to be tanks?
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Get a better build, my fire tank had zero trouble with the end AV in that TF, with only a dark as support.
Space reserved for a super awesome Signature, someday...
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I give up. Starting a willpower tank or stone tomorrow. This guy is on the scrap heap when do Fire tanks........get to be tanks?
[/ QUOTE ]When they actually put enhancements in their sockets.
well, seeing how this is another fire/fire thread, and my gf was having similar issues, here is a build I have come up with for her.
S/L is a lot easier to get close to cap with than Positional Defense. Seeing how pretty much all damage in the game has an S/L component, well, you see where I am going with that.
Anywho, this is the build I am proposing for her, wanted to get some more input on it first tho.
Note, dropping RotP is not an option. She likes the utility of it, and I agree with her on this point. Until she can get the purps, oblits and posi blasts will be used, respectively.
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2hot2handle: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge[*] (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance[*] (37) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%[*] (43) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection[/list]Level 1: Scorch <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 2: Blazing Aura <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (5) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (13) Obliteration - Damage[*] (17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (45) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 4: Healing Flames <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge[*] (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge[*] (7) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge[*] (23) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance[/list]Level 6: Combat Jumping <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed[/list]Level 8: Combustion <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage[*] (9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (11) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 10: Consume <ul type="square">[*] (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage[*] (11) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range[*] (15) Perfect Zinger - Taunt[*] (33) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge[*] (39) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range[*] (43) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 12: Plasma Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance[*] (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge[/list]Level 14: Super Jump <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[/list]Level 16: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 18: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Miracle - +Recovery[*] (19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal[*] (19) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (21) Performance Shifter - EndMod[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO[/list]Level 22: Burn <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (29) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (40) Obliteration - Damage[*] (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 24: Boxing <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 26: Tough <ul type="square">[*] (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge[*] (37) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (43) Reactive Armor - Resistance[/list]Level 28: Fire Sword Circle <ul type="square">[*] (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage[*] (29) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge[*] (31) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (34) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 30: Build Up <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (31) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (39) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[/list]Level 32: Fiery Embrace <ul type="square">[*] (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (33) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[*] (37) HamiO:Membrane Exposure[/list]Level 35: Weave <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense[/list]Level 38: Incinerate <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 41: Ring of Fire <ul type="square">[*] (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (42) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize[*] (42) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (42) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range[*] (46) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge[*] (46) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize[/list]Level 44: Melt Armor <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 47: Fire Ball <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance[*] (48) Ragnarok - Damage[*] (48) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge[*] (48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (50) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Gauntlet
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Fire)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Cold)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Energy)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Negative)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)[*]11.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)[*]34.6% Defense(Smashing)[*]34.6% Defense(Lethal)[*]3% Defense(Fire)[*]3% Defense(Cold)[*]6.75% Defense(Energy)[*]6.75% Defense(Negative)[*]3% Defense(Psionic)[*]29.6% Defense(Melee)[*]4.88% Defense(Ranged)[*]3% Defense(AoE)[*]57% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]51.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]6% Enhancement(Heal)[*]3% Enhancement(Immobilize)[*]5% FlySpeed[*]147.6 HP (7.88%) HitPoints[*]5% JumpHeight[*]5% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -8)[*]Knockup (Mag -8)[*]MezResist(Immobilize) 14.3%[*]MezResist(Stun) 6.6%[*]MezResist(Terrorized) 2.75%[*]9.5% (0.16 End/sec) Recovery[*]34% (2.66 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]5.04% Resistance(Fire)[*]5.04% Resistance(Cold)[*]1.88% Resistance(Negative)[*]5% RunSpeed[/list]------------
[u]Set Bonuses:[u]
[u]Reactive Armor[u]
(Fire Shield)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%[*] 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)[*] 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Steadfast Protection[u]
(Fire Shield)<ul type="square">[*] 1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery[*] 3% Defense(All)[*] Knockback Protection (Mag -4)[/list][u]Kinetic Combat[u]
(Scorch)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%[*] 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Obliteration[u]
(Blazing Aura)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Stun) 2.2%[*] 3% DamageBuff(All)[*] 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Numina's Convalescence[u]
(Healing Flames)<ul type="square">[*] 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 35.1 HP (1.88%) HitPoints[*] 6% Enhancement(Heal)[/list][u]Luck of the Gambler[u]
(Combat Jumping)<ul type="square">[*] 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Obliteration[u]
(Combustion)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Stun) 2.2%[*] 3% DamageBuff(All)[*] 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Perfect Zinger[u]
(Consume)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Terrorized) 2.75%[*] 10% (0.78 HP/sec) Regeneration[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 2.5% DamageBuff(All)[*] 3.13% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.56% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Reactive Armor[u]
(Plasma Shield)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%[*] 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)[*] 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Blessing of the Zephyr[u]
(Super Jump)<ul type="square">[*] Knockback Protection (Mag -4)[/list][u]Numina's Convalescence[u]
(Health)<ul type="square">[*] 12% (0.94 HP/sec) Regeneration[/list][u]Performance Shifter[u]
(Stamina)<ul type="square">[*] 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed[/list][u]Obliteration[u]
(Burn)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Stun) 2.2%[*] 3% DamageBuff(All)[*] 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Kinetic Combat[u]
(Boxing)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%[*] 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Reactive Armor[u]
(Tough)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%[*] 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)[*] 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Armageddon[u]
(Fire Sword Circle)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Kinetic Combat[u]
(Incinerate)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%[*] 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)[/list][u]Enfeebled Operation[u]
(Ring of Fire)<ul type="square">[*] 3% Enhancement(Immobilize)[*] 1.88% Resistance(Negative)[*] 2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)[*] 3.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*] 3.13% Defense(Melee), 1.56% Defense(Lethal), 1.56% Defense(Smashing)[/list][u]Ragnarok[u]
(Fire Ball)<ul type="square">[*] 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery[*] 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)[*] 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Kinetic Combat[u]
(Brawl)<ul type="square">[*] MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%[*] 28.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints[*] 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)[/list]
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Dark Armor is like that kid you knew in school that didn't know when to shut up, and no matter how bad he got beaten down, he got right back up again and kept on talking.
Nice build there Brakner but i am concerned with the END use. 1.8 end use with consume is horrid..u must have a pocket emp or kin. try to grab a miracle and numi R/R to slot in health..but u still are hurting for end. maybe work in some 2.5% recovery sets or 1.8-2.0% max end sets. I like the defense numbers u posted though. 28-24-23 melee-range-aoe sounds like a winner for a resist set or a skinny lady contest..lol