Spines/Dark build...help

I've been using my Spines/Dark for occasional wall farming in Cimerora.

It's a cheap, incomplete build, so I won't post it, but will say that Endurance is a huge issue, and you're unlikely to avoid that. Even after including the numina, miracle & PS uniques along with Conserve power, he has problems with blue, but nothing that cant really be overcome by the occasional pause or a few insps.

To be honest, I do think it's survivability is lacking, but I'm not sure if it's the set itself, my power picks, the absence of IOs or a combination thereof.
I've previously said I hate OG and CoF, and had dropped them in order to fit Tough/Weave in, which has bumped the survivability considerably, but after having listened to the many CoF, OG lovers out there, I'm seriously considering speccing it back in.
When all is said and done though, DAs main survivability comes from Dark Regeneration, and the skill is all in knowing exactly when and where to use it. Especially as it's mitigation numbers are nowhere near as nice as many of the other sets.

If you are putting money into slotting though, use the ragnarok Chance for knock down in throw spines, and the apocalypse chance for fire in spine burst. The first for added survivability, the second because Spine burst is your main attack anyway. You'll also want to keep it recharging as much as possible.
Following that, if you can draw enough Acc/end red from elsewhere in the build, Quills and Death Shroud work well with 3 damages and the 3 'chance for damages'.
Flavour with Build-up to taste, and anything minion class should drop without getting a shot of anyway.
And at the end of the day you're a Scrapper, and isn't the best defense a good offense?

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If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

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Does this count?

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Yep.

I have a 39 spine/da that's not nearly as fast as what you have going there. Impressive.

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If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

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Does this count?

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Very Impressive

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Just out of curiosity, how much end redux did you put in your attacks?

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I'd have to check when I get home, but I know I have AT LEAST 1 End Red in every Attack (not including toggles.) Some might have two. Plus I have Conserve Power on 3 recharges.

The conundrum I run into every time I play is this- the build is very dependent on inspirations to help manage health and end, and even chopping through mobs, I use slightly more inspirations than drop. So invariably, I get to the point where I have little to nothing left in the tray.

At some point in battle, both bars drop to about 1/4 or so, and there's that very uncomfortable decision. If i use Dark Regen (2acc, 2Rech, 2ER), I'll blow out my end, my toggles will drop, and I will follow them. Or worse, DR hasn't recharged from the LAST time I used it. If I attack, I can use less endurance and hopefully take out a few, but it doesn't mean they won't take me with them.

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If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

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Does this count?

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Yep.

I have a 39 spine/da that's not nearly as fast as what you have going there. Impressive.

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Thank you

That's actually my old build. Hes much faster now.

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Just out of curiosity, how much end redux did you put in your attacks?

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I'd have to check when I get home, but I know I have AT LEAST 1 End Red in every Attack (not including toggles.) Some might have two. Plus I have Conserve Power on 3 recharges.

The conundrum I run into every time I play is this- the build is very dependent on inspirations to help manage health and end, and even chopping through mobs, I use slightly more inspirations than drop. So invariably, I get to the point where I have little to nothing left in the tray.

At some point in battle, both bars drop to about 1/4 or so, and there's that very uncomfortable decision. If i use Dark Regen (2acc, 2Rech, 2ER), I'll blow out my end, my toggles will drop, and I will follow them. Or worse, DR hasn't recharged from the LAST time I used it. If I attack, I can use less endurance and hopefully take out a few, but it doesn't mean they won't take me with them.

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I slot dark regen for 1 acc 3 end 2 recharge. I slot every toggle with 2 endredux, but I still don't have click attacks slotted for enredux (yet).

I use greens and blues almost every time they drop, unless I happen to be at full health or end. I also tend to turn off Acro and CJ once a spawn is at least 75% mezzed.

My biggest problem is the lack of Single Target damage, which is a big hole in encounters with tough bosses. Then the end costs really bog me down, and since all the minions are dead long before the boss is really hurt, I've got nothing to heal off of.

What ST attacks do you have?

Are you still running your AoE toggles with single bosses?

Does your slotting consist of standard SO's, IO's or set IO's?

I have a mix of common IO's and SO's, I'm not ready to delve into sets yet.

My ST attacks are lunge and impale.
Both are slotted for 1acc 3dmg.

No pool attacks. I tried jump kick, but it kept knocking teh boz to teh moon. (I respec'd out of it for hasten).

I turn off whatever toggles I don't need, I leave the damage aura's up. Usually murky cloud, CJ, and acrobatics, situation permitting.

My spine/da tears through anything. I often have people asking for my build. A long time ago I lead a superteam of all spine/da and it was a site to behold. We made it up to 30 which is not to bad for a random superteam in my expierence. This is my name sake character able to do pretty much anything he wants.

**Note. I also have shield wall +3% res to everything and the gladitors 3% def to all I am working on. Also this is a respeced character at 50.

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Liberated: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Weapon Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Dark Embrace <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance[*] (3) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (3) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge[*] (5) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge[*] (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 2: Spine Burst <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (5) Obliteration - Damage[*] (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (7) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (13) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 4: Death Shroud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage[*] (9) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance[*] (9) Armageddon - Damage[*] (11) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge[*] (11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (45) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 6: Build Up <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (15) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (17) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 8: Murky Cloud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance[*] (27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (29) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge[*] (29) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge[*] (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (31) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance[/list]Level 10: Impale <ul type="square">[*] (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)[*] (17) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance[*] (23) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge[*] (25) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (25) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (27) Apocalypse - Damage[/list]Level 12: Obsidian Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance[*] (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (33) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge[*] (33) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge[*] (33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 14: Kick <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 16: Dark Regeneration <ul type="square">[*] (A) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage[*] (42) Touch of the Nictus - Healing[*] (42) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge[*] (43) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing[*] (43) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration[/list]Level 18: Quills <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (19) Obliteration - Damage[*] (19) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (21) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[*] (21) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[/list]Level 20: Tough <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance[*] (40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (40) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge[*] (40) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection[*] (42) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%[/list]Level 22: Weave <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed[*] (37) Gift of the Ancients - Defense[*] (39) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance[*] (39) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge[*] (39) Empty[/list]Level 24: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 26: Ripper <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage[*] (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 28: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery[*] (34) Numina's Convalescence - Heal[*] (34) Miracle - +Recovery[*] (34) Miracle - Heal[/list]Level 30: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Modification IO[*] (43) Endurance Modification IO[*] (45) Endurance Modification IO[/list]Level 32: Combat Jumping <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[*] (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range[/list]Level 35: Throw Spines <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (48) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)[*] (50) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge[*] (50) Ragnarok - Damage[*] (50) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 38: Super Jump <ul type="square">[*] (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth[/list]Level 41: Caltrops <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown[*] (45) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)[*] (46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge[/list]Level 44: Cloak of Darkness <ul type="square">[*] (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense[*] (46) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance[*] (46) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge[/list]Level 47: Oppressive Gloom <ul type="square">[*] (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff[/list]Level 49: Soul Transfer <ul type="square">[*] (A) Energy Manipulator - Chance to Stun[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Critical Hit

Hello all, I need some help with my Spines/Dark build. He fights mostly x8 +4 groups so I was thinking about raising his everything lol. I thought about dropping OG entirely due to actually hurting me more than the actual enemies but I'm not sure if that is actually a good idea due to its wonderful ability to mitigate incoming damage. Any who without further adue here is my build. Please pick it apart

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Spiritum 1: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(43), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(7), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(9), ImpArm-ResDam(9)
Level 2: Death Shroud -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(3), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(3), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(5), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 4: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(11), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Oblit-%Dam(15)
Level 6: Super Speed -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 8: Impale -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apoc-Dam%(48)
Level 10: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 12: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(15), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), ImpArm-ResDam(19)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 18: Dark Regeneration -- M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Numna-Heal/Rchg(40), Theft-+End%(42), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 22: Quills -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 26: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(27), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Aegis-ResDam(29)
Level 28: Ripper -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(31), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 30: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(42), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), ImpArm-ResDam(43)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36)
Level 38: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(40), GSFC-Build%(40)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(45)
Level 47: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 2: Ninja Run

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Here is my spines/dark. She does pretty well, has 32% melee defense. 62.9 s/l res. Occassionally gets smacked down but goes through +2/4-6 mobs with ease.

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Spines/Dark is considered one of the premier farming combos. It's anything but weak, but you have to IO the hell out of it to get to awesome status. I remember when I first got both damage auras working, w/all my armors turned on + CJ, my end recovery was exactly 0! A highly functional Spines/Dark build needs stuff like the Numi & Miracle uniques.

My Spines/Dark is around 33 atm sitting at around 30% S/L def w/Dark Regen up every 13s or so. I run solo at -1/x8 and just barely survive most fights, unless I just chew a purp ahead of time (always combine for purps) which makes the fight much, much easier. Lots of fun and very profitable (not even farming, just running my missions at -1/x8).

Of course, things get nastier w/like Romans or other -def mobs, but 53% S/L resists and a sub 10s Dark Regen should keep you alive long enough to kill most things around you.

Bump for help with my build!!!