Spines/Dark build...help

Not real sure what IM doing here..hoping its nto real bad



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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(45), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(15), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(3), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(3), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(11), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(43), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 6: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(7)
Level 8: Impale -- Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Decim-Acc/Dmg(9), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(17), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Theft-+End%(39)
Level 18: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-End%(23)
Level 22: Super Jump -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 24: Quills -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(25), EndRdx-I(25), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 26: Ripper -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(27), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(31), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(33), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(A), Amaze-Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(36), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Weave -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 41: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Build%(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Cloak of Darkness -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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This is my current build now for Murcielago. You're definitely on the right track though. You'll want some accuracy in Dark Regeneration due to it needing some accuracy check for the enemies around you.

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I only see one major problem with your build. That spot on the top, where you clicked on "Dark Armor."

(sorry to sound bitter. I just logged off my 45 Spine/Dark... while a pile of $#!+... she used to be great. Way back before Enhancement Diversification gimped the hell out of her. I slotted her, respec'd her, IO'd her, and slotted her some more, and she still eats floor like it was on sale. Spines might still be fun, but DA just blows chunks.

Learn from my lesson- roll something else.)

Why not just ask for help on a build and tactics like this person?

I have. A few times. The aggro it draws VS the ability to survive that aggro is just way out of wack. There isn't a tank out there that could keep aggro off of me for long.

Like I said, this toon has been rebuilt over and over. After a while it feels like throwing my time away. It's sad when my Fire/Rad troller can melee far better than my scrapper.

MaHaBone, it's generally known that there are no bad scrapper secondaries. I understand things changed dramatically after ED, but Dark Armor remains a very viable set. Consider reading this discussion.

Maxtsorm and Santorican, you may consider adding more defense to your builds. You will notice the difference around 20% but things improve dramatically around 25%. I like to shoot for 30%

I been REALLY interested in making a Spines/Dark

So I threw together what I thought would be a pretty nice build

I went for basically 3 things

-Insane recovery 3.51 end/sec

-Respectable defense 23% Melee 22% Range (to pair with Cloak of Fears -to-hit)

-Minimal use of end in toggles
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge <ul type="square">[*] (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage[*] (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance[*] (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge[*] (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[*] (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)[/list]Level 1: Dark Embrace <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (42) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (42) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance[/list]Level 2: Spine Burst <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage[*] (7) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (13) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (17) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 4: Murky Cloud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[*] (40) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (42) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance[/list]Level 6: Hurdle <ul type="square">[*] (A) Jumping IO[/list]Level 8: Impale <ul type="square">[*] (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage[*] (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance[*] (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge[*] (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[*] (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 10: Obsidian Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%[/list]Level 12: Combat Jumping <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[*] (21) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[/list]Level 14: Super Jump <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[*] (19) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[/list]Level 16: Dark Regeneration <ul type="square">[*] (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing[*] (17) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge[*] (19) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing[*] (21) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration[*] (23) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[*] (23) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 18: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Miracle - +Recovery[/list]Level 20: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod[*] (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge[*] (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy[*] (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 22: Build Up <ul type="square">[*] (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff[*] (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge[*] (31) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance[*] (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance[*] (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance[*] (33) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up[/list]Level 24: Quills <ul type="square">[*] (A) Eradication - Damage[*] (34) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (36) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (36) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge[*] (37) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 26: Ripper <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage[*] (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (29) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (31) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 28: Death Shroud <ul type="square">[*] (A) Eradication - Damage[*] (34) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage[*] (34) Armageddon - Damage[*] (36) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance[*] (37) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 30: Cloak of Darkness <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance[*] (50) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance[/list]Level 32: Throw Spines <ul type="square">[*] (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage[*] (37) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance[*] (39) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge[*] (39) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[*] (39) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)[*] (40) Detonation - Damage/Recharge[/list]Level 35: Cloak of Fear <ul type="square">[*] (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff[*] (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff[*] (43) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge[*] (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (45) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[*] (50) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 38: Oppressive Gloom <ul type="square">[*] (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun[*] (46) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge[*] (46) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge[*] (46) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun[*] (48) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (50) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff[/list]Level 41: Conserve Power <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (48) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (48) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 44: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (45) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (45) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 47: Soul Transfer <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 49: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Critical Hit

I have a large amount of spines/ scrappers and I can tell you that /dark is definitely not gimped. Its very powerful and synergizes quite well with spines. Once you get it slotted for endred properly, you become a lawnmower of death.

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You'll want some accuracy in Dark Regeneration due to it needing some accuracy check for the enemies around you.


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Your Dark Regen has 242.1% Accuracy mine has 254.7% according to Mids...I guess its set bonuses...is that the same..does it work the same?

NOW I gotta mess around and see if I can come up with some more Defense...*sigh...GIMME MORE SLOTS! hehe

Tryin to figure out how to get more defense might take me a bit to figure out where to take slots from

Do you think my power regen is too low? 3.26/sec use is 1.87 without usign the attacks...I might run out of power alot...mmm thats always been my problem. This is a very very tight build

OK my daughter was nice enough to give me a break .....how's this

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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(43), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(45), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(5), TtmC'tng-EndRdx(15), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(34), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(3), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(3), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(11), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(43), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 6: Murky Cloud -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7)
Level 8: Impale -- Dev'n-Hold%(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(9), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), EndRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Heal(42), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(17), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Theft-+End%(39)
Level 18: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), P'Shift-End%(23)
Level 22: Super Jump -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 24: Quills -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(25), EndRdx-I(25), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(48)
Level 26: Ripper -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(27), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), ImpArm-EndRdx/Rchg(31), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(33), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34)
Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(A), Amaze-Stun(36), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(36), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Weave -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 41: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit(42), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(42), GSFC-Build%(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(50), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Cloak of Darkness -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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Here, I'll post this build but keep two things in mind. 1) This build is not endurance friendly, it's largely not an issue for me. 2) I'm not a Oppressive Gloom fan so I built my Spines/DA with CoF instead.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Desmalla: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(9), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), T'Death-Dam%(48)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erad-%Dam(11), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(5), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(7), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(11), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 6: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(9), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(39), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 12: Impale -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(37), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-+End%(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(17), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(21)
Level 22: Quills -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 24: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(40), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 26: Ripper -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(27), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(27), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(34), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-Acc/Rchg(29), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(46)
Level 30: Cloak of Darkness -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(43), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), GftotA-Run+(43)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(45)
Level 35: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 44: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), GftotA-Def(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(50), GftotA-Run+(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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Please correct me if Im wrong here...but isnt CoF very gimp now? and OG works better (or so I thought I was reading)?

I messed with yours....Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Desmalla: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Spines
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lunge -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(9), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), T'Death-Dam%(48)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(36), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 2: Spine Burst -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erad-%Dam(11), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(5), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(7), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(11), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 6: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(9), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 12: Impale -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(37), Zephyr-ResKB(46)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-+End%(A), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(17), Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(19)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 22: Quills -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(23), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(25), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 24: Murky Cloud -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(40), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 26: Ripper -- M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(A), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(27), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg(27), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(34), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-Acc/Rchg(29), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(46)
Level 30: Cloak of Darkness -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(43), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), GftotA-Run+(43)
Level 32: Throw Spines -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(45)
Level 35: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 44: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), GftotA-Def(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit



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dont know if thats any beter lOL

If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

See, I'd love for DA to not suck. I love the idea of a Scraptroller, that can survive by locking down/debuffing foes. When DA works like that, it is kinda neat.

When it doesn't work like that, it REALLY doesn't work. Even with three end reds in every toggle, you chow through the blue bar. And you have oh so many toggles. Not an Auto power in the set. Nor a power to help you manage/recover the blue bar. It also gets none of the -tohit benefits every other Dark set enjoys.

Maybe if OG sapped small amounts of End from your foes, back to yourself. Maybe if Obsidian was an autopower. Maybe if Death Shroud and Dark Regen had a -tohit effect.

Maybe Spines and DA aren't the match they used to be. Spines is so AoE heavy, it writes A LOT of checks DA just isn't ready to cash. I can see a DM/DA toon being much more viable. Or a Spines/Invul or Spines/WP.

If some of you guys like it, more power to ya. I sure don't see many of you running around in the game.

Well I saw a Spines/DA farming yesterday that was rocking stuff. I dont know though...its just something different and not so "easy mode" for me

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If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

See, I'd love for DA to not suck. I love the idea of a Scraptroller, that can survive by locking down/debuffing foes. When DA works like that, it is kinda neat.

When it doesn't work like that, it REALLY doesn't work. Even with three end reds in every toggle, you chow through the blue bar.

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Just out of curiosity, how much end redux did you put in your attacks?

Things that will help your survival and endurance issues...


Slot for +max end bonuses over recovery, and stack those with accolades. You'll get +end recovery with other bonuses and slot the recovery uniques into health.

Slot the +chance for end unique from Theft of Essence into Dark Regeneration.

Slot for defense bonuses (S/L defense will help greatly, here's why) and stack with Cloak of Darkness/Combat Jumping/Weave if you take any/all of these.

Frankenslot for end reduction in toggles and look for any dam/end, acc/end, etc IO's.

I've applied this approach to multiple scrappers, tanks and defenders with at least two of each in Dark Armor or Dark Miasma, all endurance heavy sets. My endurance issues are equal to or less than my non-dark toons while running ALL toggles. These are things I've learned from several different sources, Desmodos being one of them.

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Please correct me if Im wrong here...but isnt CoF very gimp now? and OG works better (or so I thought I was reading)?

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Not everyone likes CoF. I can understand why folks don't like it. Due to the high endurance usage of a Spines/DA build, most players will chose Oppressive Gloom as it costs very little endurance. All I can tell is despite CoF low base accuracy and high endurance costs, I prefer it substatially more than Oppressive Gloom.

If you want my thoughts on the specifics of Oppressive Gloom vs Cloak of Fear, see those sections of the guide in my signature.

mmmm...never heard that about the debate of running CoF or OG ...

dont knwo what to do now LOL

I finally tried Cloak of Fear. It sucks! Never take it!

/em run away cackling before Des can kill me

(this one's an old, old debate, and it comes up frequently)

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mmmm...never heard that about the debate of running CoF or OG ...

dont knwo what to do now LOL

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Try both, then respec out of one later. Definitely slot up Cloak of Fear fully before making a decision, as it requires more of an investment. You may find yourself with endurance issues with Cloak of Fear, but also keep in mind that in the long run, there are ways to manage those. You might decide, for instance, to level up with Oppressive Gloom because it's easier to pull off, then switch when you move to IOs. Or one of them might stand out as clearly better for your play style. But they're similar enough that I think it's hard to make the call based on numbers and recommendations. I think it's a situation where you just have to find out for yourself.

If you can get past the endurance issues and the lower accuracy of CoF, it turns into a great power with the mitigation is provides. Though the amount of -to-hit it provides is small, it in effect couples with your defenses. And remember you can always take advantage of the fear effect when you're not running your aoe toggles.

Personally, I'll take OG when I can stack it with a melee set that offers stuns.

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If anyone has a YouTube video of a /DA NOT sucking, I'd love to see it.

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Does this count?

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