Go to Alienware.com
order their top of the line liquid cooled machine
spen 15K on the compuet & monitors.
be broke with the hottest system out there. ;p
Um...
OK, it's possible to just make an "insane computer," but would you want to buy a platinum-bodied Ferrari just to drive a block down the street to the store?
Honestly, it looks like you need to do a *lot* of research. You want, it looks like, dual *physical processors* (though multicore is overkill for most peoples needs) - and then run Windows XP Home? They won't be taken advantage of.
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Heck, COH (as I recall) doesn't even take advantage of SLI/Crossfire. If you're planning on other games as well, they may make it worthwhile.
Memory support is going to depend on processor and mainboard selections. The amount is also going to be impacted by if you're running a 32 or 64 bit edition.
Personally, I'd browse around up in the Tech issues forum. There are some example builds and such, as well as "what works" type questions. (Edit: Start in a thread such as this one.) Also, Win7 is due to release, as I recall, at the end of October. I'm planning a system build as well, specifically for it, changing as it gets closer. Perhaps not an "ultimate" build, but one that'll fit my needs.
Take a look at what Falcon Northwest is building and use that as a basis for your new rig.
Or you can drop a few G's on them and they can build it for you.
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No I understand it will be overkill for Win XP Home, that will just be a placeholder OS til 7 is in full release. I just mentioned it because I wasn't sure if Windows 7 was all its cracked up to be. I hear great things but was looking for opinions, and if it wasn't great then I'd go with Vista 64 but I wanted opinions on OS 7. Essentially I would use XP Home til I got an answer on which OS to really take advantage realizing that the computer would not be optimized til the upgrade is released which should be cheaper than flat out buying the full version of OS 7 in relation to the upgrade price of OS X to OS 7. Thanks so far for the input. Good stuff. Need more though 
Big investment and all that, checking out that web page now that was referred to. I'll see how it looks a little later and reply again.
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
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No I understand it will be overkill for Win XP Home, that will just be a placeholder OS til 7 is in full release. I just mentioned it because I wasn't sure if Windows 7 was all its cracked up to be. I hear great things but was looking for opinions, and if it wasn't great then I'd go with Vista 64 but I wanted opinions on OS 7. Essentially I would use XP Home til I got an answer on which OS to really take advantage realizing that the computer would not be optimized til the upgrade is released which should be cheaper than flat out buying the full version of OS 7 in relation to the upgrade price of OS X to OS 7. Thanks so far for the input. Good stuff. Need more though Big investment and all that, checking out that web page now that was referred to. I'll see how it looks a little later and reply again.
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Apparently right now they have unlimited keys available for the RC of W7
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In that case -
You'll probably be looking at Win7 Ultimate for the multiprocessor support (which is, coincidentally, what the RC is.) And running it here (64 bit, dual boot,) it really is quite good. It takes a little adjustment for someone used to XP, but so would vista. I want to say Win7 Home would only support a single processor, just like XP home.
(That said, every version of Win7 is a superset of the version before it - so if you had, say, Win7 Home, you could buy an upgrade, plug in the key without having to reinstall, and unlock all the support Ultimate would have. At least that's the plan.)
I'm a little hazy on what's going to go on as far as upgrades with Win7. Vista will be able to be upgraded directly, XP I *believe* they're saying will need a reinstall. (That said... I'd do a clean install anyway.)
If you're planning on building it yourself, get the parts that won't be affected or likely drop (I tend to start with a case, since it just starts calling "Fill me up, build me!" better than anything else >.>
and things like DVD drives, and hold off on things like mainboards. Video cards... eh, I'd buy about halfway, keeping an eye on what's coming. Processors, I'd watch for sales.
You mention looking for solid state drives - the ones that will give you decent performance (SLC in most instances, as opposed to MLC, except for one from IBM... think I remembered the acronym correctly) are going to be pricy, and I don't *believe* I've seen one over 160 Gb. I'm looking, for the suggested system, at an IBM 80Gb boot drive, at around $300-$350 right now. So it should be cheaper when I actually *buy* it. Most storage is going on regular hard drives.
My main thing with mainboards right now is apparent problems with booting on 12 Gb RAM. (Yes, I run enough stuff *now* to see this as an upcoming issue for me.) These seem to get fixed with BIOS updates, but it's something I'm watching.
I'd hold off on buying whole systems right now, save money, and watch what comes out, planning on a Win7 "from the start" system.
I'd love to wait a little longer, even by doing that the already available computers will have Win7 as their default OS and I can compare prices. But I don't think my computer has much time left. It took about 6 restarts to get it into windows this morning alone. 5 didn't even make it past the initial power button press. I just know its tearing my HD apart as well with all these restarts. Can't see it lasting much longer. I didn't want to have to use the Credit card if I didn't have to but seeing as how it isn't getting better, and I cannot survive without my puter, I will probably not be able to wait.
Anyway I never mentioned power sources, are there any external power supplies out there that I can have outside the system that won't cause excess heat or would I just have to take it out of the machine. I don't believe liquid cooling will help a Power Supply. And how much power would I need if I got a multiprocessor motherboard and dual Nvidia's and a Solid State Drive? I hear that will take out a lot of energy. Wondering if this super computer will kill my houses electric bill when I run it.
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
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I'm still honestly questioning your need for a multiprocessor board, TBH. I haven't seen all that many - and COH, for one, doesn't take more than two threads. Very few games out there really take advantage of multiple *cores* to begin with. (Plus, in any case, there's still noise coming out about six and eight core processors - whether they'll hit the mass market anytime soon, versus workstation/server market... *shrug* )
As for power supplies - no, outside of very small form factor (Mac Mini style) and notebooks, I don't see externals. Heat from that shouldn't be a worry at all - they do, after all, have at *least* a fan in back which will draw the air directly out, while some have multiple fans to draw air through them before it goes. Some cases even have the various items "zoned" for thermal reasons... whether it helps or not, I don't know. And no, there's no way of adding liquid cooling to a power supply to my knowledge. I wouldn't open one up to begin with.
How much power you'd need... check for some power calculator sites. *shrug*
Thanks bill, Yeah I am just of the mindset that when I invest in something, I invest alot in it to last along time, I figure what I want to build has to last at least 4 years and still be a superior machine. Thats why I look at the 4 processor solution, BUT I may just be overdoing it a lot because I know eventually 4 processor sets get replaced by better processors that don't need to be all piled up on one board to have the same effects. I'm just trying to make sure I don't spend 5k and then have it be outdated in a few years. And I know I'm gunna want to at least try a few newer games that come out time and time again during its lifespan.
Motherboards have always seemed limiting to me because you buy a great one and then you buy the best processor and then your stuck. You can't upgrade the board when new things come out and you can't upgrade the processor because you already bought the max it supports. So my 4 processor board is the idea to replace that occurance by making it well beyond what I think I'll need in the next 4 years. But if it won't actually help make the computer faster and in turn will only help with running multiple applications at the same time versus running one good game at a time then I will skip it. I don't ever have more than 4 windows open at one time and if one Quad core processor will be able to handle that well into 2015 (hopefully) then I'll save alot of money 8>
P.S. Wheres Billz, I can't ask his opinion and he hasn't commented on this yet. He has private messages disabled :/.
Oh and also, the HP Blackbird made me jealous, it has a external power supply. But its a factory computer. And its hp so theres no chance I'd ever consider it. Just like that they used Asetek's chill system and have an external power supply in it. If it was anyone but hp it would be neat.
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
Well, don't be so sure about "won't support other processors." The board I'm running right now predated information on the Phenoms (and even later Athlon X2 processors.) But thanks to being Socket AM2, I've got the chance to run quite a few - and support for many later processors was obtained via a BIOS upgrade.
This system started out with an Athlon X2 4000, 2.1 Ghz processor, 2 Gb RAM, and Geforce 7900 when I built it about 3 years ago. Recently bumped up to a 5600, 2.99 Ghz processor, 4 Gb RAM and GeForce 9800 GT - and the processor runs cooler (by FAR) and takes less power. Still planning on a new system for Win7 though - SSD boot drive, and far more RAM. Even with that, though, this system will probably keep going for another two years... heck, I still have the system before *this* one which is a few years older, Sempron 2400, AGP Geforce 6800, and 1.5 Gb RAM. I use it when I dual box, or want to look stuff up while playing. Takes longer to boot, zone, etc. of course.
I don't build to the "latest and greatest," but I do keep upgradeability in mind.
And BillZ might not be around - he was talking about taking a break 'til around I16 when his current sub ran out. Bit of burnout.
Thanks for all the input Bill, it helps greatly! I MIGHT even go today and look for the gear, your input helped alot. Any sites other than Newegg that I should check to price things out?
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
I pretty much always start at newegg for at least pricing ideas. I have a few places like best buy and compusa nearby - and if I find a similar case or some such which is about the same price, I'd go there and buy (just to avoid shipping.) But generally, yeah, start at newegg.
Multi socketed MBs are found at NewEgg under Server Motherboards. Note that not only they are considerably more expensive than single socket motherboards, so is the memory and the CPUs. Also due to space limitations, four socket motherboards don't have the kind of slots you are looking for. Most don't even have audio because they are a SERVER MB.
You want a lot of CPU power? Get a Core i7. It's a quad core but with HT the OS sees eight. Applications that are designed to use as many cores as possible simply adore Core i7s. Computer rendering, video compression, science and engineering simulations all think it's the cat's meow. This compares the $310, 3.0GHz Core2 Q9650 to a $280, 2.66GHz Core i7-920. With the exception of limited threaded games, the 11% slower clocked Core i7 eats the Q9650 for lunch.
The problem is the server version of that chip (2.66GHz, Core i7 based), which allows multiprocessor communications, cost $1000. Drop two of those into a $400-600 dual socket 1366 motherboard, add in 12 GB of DDR3 ECM memory and you are approaching $3000 without the video cards, case, PSU, etc.
For a ridiculous build list, here, Ars Technica's God Box. Around $9400 for just the rig, no monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers. For that amount of money you could build three or four really really nice single processor rigs.
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I never understood what RAID cards do. Can either of you help me on that one? Because I'm looking at a MoBo that has only AGP slots and that seems limiting but the possibilities for performance are quite nice. And things are saying RAID 1 2 or other types of raid cards help but with what? And they only work in PCI slots? PCIe maybe? A little confused on this.
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
Um...
OK, with questions like that, I'd say stop, and do some research. You're throwing around terms here (and in your original post) that sound like you just ran across them and they sounded good... but you're going to get yourself confused and possibly into trouble if you look at piecing this together yourself without understanding what they are.
1. You said you're looking at a board with AGP slots. Stop looking at it.
AGP is a graphics card slot that's just not used these days. It's been replaced with PCI-E. You won't find anything close to a decent graphics card to use with it - and certainly won't be doing SLI or Crossfire.
2. RAID
... can do a lot of things, from increase performance to protect data. There are multiple variations on it - but if you're not sure of what you're looking at and your terminology, I'd really hesitate to even go into this, much less suggest setting up a RAID array.
3. PCI vs PCI-E
It's quite possible the mainboard you choose will have both. PCI is older than PCI-E, but still in use for expansion cards. PCI-E exists in various levels, but is not compatible with PCI. (For instance, you might find a PCI x1 network card - it won't plug into a PCI slot and work.) The slots are physically different, for starters -
Look, you're going to run into even more "stuff" you're going to have questions on, between processor slot families, memory types, speeds, etc.
Start with FatherXmas's guide on computer components in his signature. When you're done there (follow some of the links,) look through his builds, and see if you can get a feeling for what's what and how things go together. There are also guides out there on the wide world of the 'net on building your first system. Some great, some not so much. Keep wikipedia handy, as well, and use it to look up a few things you're not sure of - it may help, it may not, but it's another explanation. Or just base what you're looking at on his $1000 build, perhaps.
Basically, right now you've said you want to build a race car. We've kind of pointed you at some ideas and components, and you've essentially come back asking "What's the difference between wheels and tires? Philips head? Regular? Torx? What's the difference between Torx and Torque? Manifold - do I have to fold it myself?"
You need to do some reading so you don't get in over your head.
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Or you can drop a few G's on them and they can build it for you.
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They tip good too
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I know I know, I haven't kept up with newer systems. I read a little here and there but I built my own system before and know a bit about it. There are still terms I am unsure of but thats why I'm here researching now
I haven't even left my desk, yet alone figured out exactly what I need but heres a list so far of what I am getting into. This will better help get an idea where I'm going. And yes sometimes I am very visual and I can't recall what AGP and PCI are and how they're different but I WILL make sure and get the right stuff when I make my order or purchase so don't worry
Check this out:
Raidmax Smilodon Case. A little older and have to check for MB size fit but hopefully that will be the one. No link cause who cares what the case looks like in terms of performance.
MB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188047
GFx:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130484
times 2 because I believe they have to be the exact same GFx card makers and models.
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115200
Ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145224
Power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341023
And OS I will go WinXP Home to startup and download OS7 and upgrade when its avail in Oct I believe someone said.
HD will be SSD and backup 500 Gig 7200 whatever drive. Look good? Need anything else?
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
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I never understood what RAID cards do. Can either of you help me on that one? Because I'm looking at a MoBo that has only AGP slots and that seems limiting but the possibilities for performance are quite nice. And things are saying RAID 1 2 or other types of raid cards help but with what? And they only work in PCI slots? PCIe maybe? A little confused on this.
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RAID stands for Redundant Array of Individual Drives. The I use to mean Inexpensive.
RAID is a way, usually, to provide a more robust and faster performing drive subsystem than single drives.
The difference from motherboard based RAID and RAID cards, is that RAID cards handle the grunt work with complex RAID configurations instead of your CPU. It provides better performance.
RAID 0, what gamer systems tend to configure, shouldn't be considered RAID on the grounds that the loss of a single drive wipes out the entire drive array. Can't really call that redundant now can you.
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Thanks bill, Yeah I am just of the mindset that when I invest in something, I invest alot in it to last along time, I figure what I want to build has to last at least 4 years and still be a superior machine.
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Whoah, hold on now.
Frankly, I'm a bit surprised and dissapointed that none of the more tech savvy here have not already jumped on the bolded statement above.
OP, I'm sorry, but that's just not the way the PC game works anymore.
Today's uber-machine is lucky to be tommorow's mid-range.
Technology just moves too damn fast for what you state (build expensive now and have it still be high-end in 4years)
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Bleeding edge is for suckers
Take it from somone who walked down that failed road of broken glass too many times to count.
Build for what you need today, give yourself a reasonable amount of headroom to expand in the future, and save yourself a ton of money and heartache.
Yeah I don't think I'll be making superior by some peoples means with my stubborn ways. But I mean able to over-handle minimum specs on games coming in the next 4 years. And hopefully meet recommended system specs for at least 2 years. Thats my goal. Don't mean to sound like I have the funds or even the knowhow of what to do with a real overclocked supercomputer that will be out of date in a year, but I want something to be proud of for a year, ahead of the game in 2 and still knocking on the door of future game releases.
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
That's just not going to happen. Wait until you can at least get a DX11 Video Card and that'll help you out a bit as far as longevity.
It does look like software developers are starting to build for multiple cores, 64-bit OS's and the like finally but unless you plan on doing several different things at once or doing some serious ray tracing there is no reason to go for a multiple processor solution. Not to be rude but judging from your posts you don't do that, so don't buy hardware that's not doing to do anything for you.
If you really just want to spend a lot of money the Intel Core i7-975 Extreme gets you 4 hyperthreaded cores, which is more then you are going to need at current and will take you through the future of multithreaded gaming just fine. Plop that in a board from a solid manufacturer (Asus, Gigabyte and the like) with some low latency DDR3, treat yourself to 6GB and you'll have minimums for along time.
Really though, wait for the Video Card or you'll be buying new ones in 6 months.
Also, dont overclock. You want reliability overclocking is not how to get it. Without solid knowledge of what the settings you are playing with do you are not going to get 4 years of life out of OC'd parts. There is no "here use these settings" template. Well... there are but its in no way a good way to go about it.
Don't buy SSD drives. You dont need them. If you want them get Intels X25-M and enjoy paying 5.5x as much per gig then you would if you went with VelociRaptors.
For cases and watercooling. If you haven't done it before I'd have to suggest not building your own kit. Watercooling isn't all that hard it's just it can be expensive if you haven't done it before, dont do your research, and dont have much engineering aptitude. Also dont think you are going to WC everything in the comp, you will need fans still and most pumps are not recommended for more then 2 or 3 blocks.
If you DO watercool your video card do yourself a favor and buy a block made for the card. More then the GPU gets hot.
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I agree with Gamma Guardian, although I don't know if I'd get as intense about it.
Moore's Law says that what you get for the same dollar doubles about every two years. [I had heard 18 months; I'm not going to quibble over small things like that.] So look at what you get for half the price (a lot more than half the performance) and double the performance to see what you'll get for that price in a couple of years. Quadruple it to see what you'll get in four years.
Now sometimes it's a lumpy curve... 486's lasted about 5 years if I recall before Pentiums really got manufacturable, and there were a couple moments there where it moved a lot faster than 18 months. But basically you have to figure out what you're willing to spend, and accept that it's going to be mediocre in two years.
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Yeah, I couldn't wait on the Video Card because I believe the one I have is part of my computers problem sadly. I would have liked to take that advice. But now I have 2 GeForce GFx cards on the way and a killer System. And at just under 3k not including CD/DVD (which I forgot) or OS or cooling which I will go get today. The OS will be as planned but I am wondering how the install goes for Win7. Will I need a second HD to format for it? So it can use the other HD for the install?
But in response to someone's question about cooling, yeah, I have done the liquid cooling before and I maintained under 98 degrees all the time and then learned about ram and power supply heat. Back then though I had Rambus Ram. Good stuff though. I will also be buying a tower water cooler (external) and run the cords through the back slots and onto the Processor/GPU's/ and maybe the ram if I can find something suitable/safe for them. I only lack skill in the amount of thermal compound needing to be used on the heat sinks. I seem to think I need more than I actually do sometimes and it doesn't make a good connection and I end up feeling like I need to redo it because I'm not satisfied with the temperatures. Or maybe I just expect better results. I like to keep the processors at very close to room temperature while not running heavy loads.
I'll keep you all posted. You all can laugh at me if I fail like I did with forgetting the DVD drive 8> But I am confident in my skills. Does anyone think I should get a DVD r/rw cd r/rw combo and use it as a primary cd/dvd drive? I think I heard once that they don't like the loads of primary drives because they're designed to be used to write and rewrite mostly with the ability to read but not the specialty and they can break. Any good brand names you can think of or good drives and I'll consider them when I get back from the cooling place! Talk at you again soon.
BTW: My computer only took 1 startup to work this morning, I think it knows of its impending doom. And I think it knows of the things it should be afraid of arriving in the mail.
Looked and kinda liked this but not sure if an external can be used as a primary Disk Drive. Any input?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135194
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom
OK So my computer has been taking 5 restarts just to get it running and then sometimes can crash about 3 more times while playing around with it during the day. My solution was originally to buy an Alienware laptop but now that the Alienware website takes me to a Dell site because they own them I decided against it. Long Story Short I want to put something on my credit card soon and want to know what everyone thinks would be completely overkill for a system. Here's the things I think I want. Are they out there? Can it be done? You tell me
Show me the ultimate computer and maybe soon I'll make it happen. BTW Who made those super computers with the CoH logo's on the side, maybe I can get a comp. from that group if its cheaper than my Supercomputer dreams.
Check it:
Motherboard - something able to hold 4 processors/server board with 6 Ram slots and 2 AGP for SLI/Raid or whatever 2 GFX cards running together is called. Can be 1 or 2 processors if deemed unnecessary but would be cool to have Nvidia processor on the motherboard to work well with the dual Nvidia GFx cards. And I want something that has/works with the Ageia PhysX so I can get all the neat details out of CoH.
Cooling for that would be the Asetek external cooling liquid reservoir connected to the processor(s) gfx cards and hopefully the ram if I can find the right ram cooling space for the liquid cooling.
GFx - Dual GFx cards of the best ranking top geared Nvidia brand. Doesn't need to be the newest if something slightly older can do better with all the cooling I'll have but newer will prolly be better right?
Ram - Corsair or Patriot (heard good things) DDR3 best of the best. Though some are claiming DDR2 is better atm there are a few of the DDR3 brand taking over.
HD - Primary 300Gig Solid State but anything more stable with less space and less heat with more speed is preferred and can always add a regular 'ol 500 gig HD 7200 rpm dealio. I don't need that much storage space.
Case - Unknown, thinking of cooler master but I only go with black but style like the Acer predator makes me change my ways as long as the spray paint will allow. I prefer the cool cord management of some of the newer cases where the cords all run down the back and come out the bottom of the case in one place.
Processor - 3.2 Dual/Quad Core Minimum. Pentium processor. Steep Price climb if I get 4 of them and I may just have to stick with an ATI 1 or 2 processor Motherboard at the price of these and make life easy but I can dream
OS - I will just install my copy of Windows xp home on it and then download Windows 7 onto it and purchase the full version when it is released. Completely bypassing Vista even though I want to be able to handle 64 bit processing. I believe that Windows 7 will be handling that though. If thats not a good idea then I will just get Windows XP Pro until its more feasible though that will under perform for all that the computer will be able to handle. Does anyone think Vista 64 edition would be wiser because I loathe Vista.
P.S. I wish I knew more about Going Rogue so I could make sure I have extras that GR might take advantage of but I am thinking top of the line for everything should be able to handle it all eh?
Pinnacle Heroes: Ilconke lvl 50 En/En Blast, Pane lvl 50 Inv/SS Tank, Kimil'Lee Draco lvl 50 Ill/Kin Troller, Blackest Blackness lvl 38 DA/DM Tank, il lvl 35 PB
Pinnacle Villains: X lvl 50 Claw/Nin Stalker, Knumbskull lvl 42 Elec/Elec Brute, Metal Master lvl 35 Bot/Bub MM, X'ile lvl 32 Mind/Psi Dom