New patch note about purple pet set


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Added a note to pieces of the Soulbound Allegiance IO set that will warn the player that slotting this enhancement into a pet power that summons a pet that is lower than level 50 will result in the pet not benefiting from the effects of the enhancement.

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Which controller pets summon at level 50 ?


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Fire imps

err, I mean, all but fire imps. Ulli can actually only read word "cookie" consistantly...



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Added a note to pieces of the Soulbound Allegiance IO set that will warn the player that slotting this enhancement into a pet power that summons a pet that is lower than level 50 will result in the pet not benefiting from the effects of the enhancement.

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Which controller pets summon at level 50 ?

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Should be all of them except Fire Imps.

I haven't gotten down to the mastermind forum yet (just got home from work), but I suspect there's probably a huge row going on there, since this affects 5/6ths of their henchmen.


 

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Added a note to pieces of the Soulbound Allegiance IO set that will warn the player that slotting this enhancement into a pet power that summons a pet that is lower than level 50 will result in the pet not benefiting from the effects of the enhancement.

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Which controller pets summon at level 50 ?

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Should be all of them except Fire Imps.

I haven't gotten down to the mastermind forum yet (just got home from work), but I suspect there's probably a huge row going on there, since this affects 5/6ths of their henchmen.

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however, since they can only slot the set once, the only thing that should be an issue would be the proc.


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Added a note to pieces of the Soulbound Allegiance IO set that will warn the player that slotting this enhancement into a pet power that summons a pet that is lower than level 50 will result in the pet not benefiting from the effects of the enhancement.

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Which controller pets summon at level 50 ?

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Should be all of them except Fire Imps.

I haven't gotten down to the mastermind forum yet (just got home from work), but I suspect there's probably a huge row going on there, since this affects 5/6ths of their henchmen.

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however, since they can only slot the set once, the only thing that should be an issue would be the proc.

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Um... no, not really. Slotting any of the enhancements in any of the tier 1 (max level 48) or 2 (max level 49) henchmen summon powers, or Fire Imps (max level 49), has exactly the same result as leaving those slots completely empty.

That means slotting the Acc/Dam/Rchg enhancement gives no increase in Accuracy or Damage. Slotting the Damage enhancement gives no increase in Damage. Dam/End, these pets won't deal more damage or use less endurance. Et cetera.

It's not just the Build Up proc that would be the issue, it's all of the enhancements in that set. This restricts the use of these enhancements, essentially making them unavailable for frankenslotting (either to achieve more of the 2 or 3 piece bonuses, or to squeeze in more enhancement boosts with fewer slots) for a wide range of players, as well as potentially resulting in some players slotting up "the wrong pets" with the purple set and discovering that they perform as if they weren't slotted at all.

Frankly, I think all powers which summon pets below level 50 should be flagged not to accept the purple set at all. As it stands now only a warning will be given, allowing players to slot this set and gain no benefit from it beyond the set bonuses (which, in my opinion, aren't that good, and certainly not good enough to warrant running around with pets which perform as if they aren't slotted at all). Access to this set should be completely removed from the appropriate summon powers to prevent misunderstanding and potential outcry in the future.

It would be a heck of a lot easier to explain to newer players why they can't slot the purple set in Fire Imps or tier 1 or 2 henchmen than it would be to explain to players why slotting the set results in absolutely no improvement to their pets and then having to put up with fifteen page arguments about lack of information or poor developer decisions.


 

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Added a note to pieces of the Soulbound Allegiance IO set that will warn the player that slotting this enhancement into a pet power that summons a pet that is lower than level 50 will result in the pet not benefiting from the effects of the enhancement.

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Which controller pets summon at level 50 ?

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Should be all of them except Fire Imps.

I haven't gotten down to the mastermind forum yet (just got home from work), but I suspect there's probably a huge row going on there, since this affects 5/6ths of their henchmen.

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however, since they can only slot the set once, the only thing that should be an issue would be the proc.

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Um... no, not really. Slotting any of the enhancements in any of the tier 1 (max level 48) or 2 (max level 49) henchmen summon powers, or Fire Imps (max level 49), has exactly the same result as leaving those slots completely empty.


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you misunderstood me.

You can still slot it in the tier 3 pet, giving you the set bonuses, etc, the only thing they lose out in doing this is the BU proc only affecting 1 henchman rather than 3.

however, I do see your point about frankenslotting.


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Ok, does anyone have any ideas/hunches as to why this is necessary? I'm just glad I found out before I went ahead and made/slotted the set for my Fire/ 'troller, but it does leave a hole in her level 50-build.


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Ok, does anyone have any ideas/hunches as to why this is necessary? I'm just glad I found out before I went ahead and made/slotted the set for my Fire/ 'troller, but it does leave a hole in her level 50-build.

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I just caught a couple of other threads about it. Seems the IOs themselves are busted, and limiting them to specific pet summon powers won't help because they're exhibiting the bad behavior even when someone exemps down.

The developers are trying to figure out what's causing the IOs to stop working, and apparently the warning is being added because... well, I'd guess that the only other option would be to remove them from the game completely until they can track the problem down, something they're probably trying to avoid doing unless absolutely necessary.


 

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Perhaps that should be a more visible aspect of the note that's being added/bandied around the forums?

I'm just imagining the replies that are going to appear from the crowds aren't going to be sunshine and rainbows when they hear that they "aren't allowed to use the purple sets."


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I think one of my Fire Controllers have the acc/dam/rech just to squeeze in the 25% recharge in on the fire imps in 4 slots. Bummer. Is this permanent / deliberate? Or is this a bug? *shrug* I've been playing a lot of Titan Quest this week. I guess I need to read up on the COX stuff.

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Wait, what? Soulbound set doesn't work on imps? Was this known prior to this and the "fix" is merely to mention it in the help text? That's horrible.

I'm glad my Fire controller went for 6 Blood Mandates for the +def and my other 50 controllers aren't Fire since I did slot Soulbounds in a few of them. Are there other Controller or Defender pets or pseudopets that would be affected by this (say, Tornado or similar powers)?


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From what I've read on the other discussion threads the Soulbound completely stops working even in level 50 pets if you exemp down. Apparently if you've slotted them in, say, Jack Frost they work when you're at 50, but if you exemp down to 49 or lower then they do absolutely nothing... it's the same as leaving the slots empty. Maybe the set bonuses remain, but the enhancements themselves don't have any effect at all.

All this discussion has made me very glad I haven't bought that set of Soulbound for my Fire/Rad yet; and with the exemp behavior I can't see slotting it into any pet. Chalk it up for a worthless set.

I think I'll just stick with the Blood Mandate Acc/Dam, Dam and the Brilliant Leadership Acc/Dam, Dam for my pets... recharge as needed in the other two slots. At least I know THAT will work.

I just had a nasty thought... is that exemp problem deactivating ALL purples? Or is it limited to only the pet set? I'll have to experiment with that this evening; I do have a couple of purple sets on another 'troller.


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Wait, what? Soulbound set doesn't work on imps? Was this known prior to this and the "fix" is merely to mention it in the help text? That's horrible.

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From what I can gather, it was just figured out recently. There have been numerous Fire controllers who noted that the Build Up proc wasn't working in their pets, but it was (mistakenly) believed to be an oversight or a deliberate limitation for that specific IO. That all of the IOs weren't applying their boosts to sub-50 pets wasn't known, or deliberate, or an oversight, it's a bug that, as I said, I believe they just didn't know about until now.

Castle says they intend to fix it (got a PM today). The whole set. The warning is being added as a temporary measure, just until they can track down the bug and squash it.


 

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I just had a nasty thought... is that exemp problem deactivating ALL purples?

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I just had a nasty thought... is that exemp problem deactivating ALL purples?

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No.

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Well that's a relief anyway. I'd imagine the value of the pet purple set to tank pretty severely once this problem becomes common knowledge though.


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I just had a nasty thought... is that exemp problem deactivating ALL purples?

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No.

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They get scaled down in effectiveness pretty drastically if you exemp below level 32, just like any other enhancement


 

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I just had a nasty thought... is that exemp problem deactivating ALL purples?

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Well that's a relief anyway. I'd imagine the value of the pet purple set to tank pretty severely once this problem becomes common knowledge though.

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I took my Soulbounds off last night and placed them on the market in hopes I could get something decent for them before their value totally goes through the floor. To my surprise, some are still going in the 20M range, but most have already dropped to really low values.