Any that are soft-capped.
so a billion-dollar brute then? oof.
Nah, don't need that much to soft-cap SR.
A better answer would be whatever secondary on a Stone Melee primary. None of the Freakshow bosses have knockback resistance/protection and Fault can be doublestacked relatively easily to permastun bosses - it can be done with just SOs against even-cons.
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i'm thinking more along the lines of a dm/shield
i was able teo build one that wasnt TOO expensive that capped positionals. the expensive part was the lotg's i put in other spots and the single steadfast protection 3% def. i dont think mako's bite, performance shifter (outside of the one), and touch of death are super expensive anymore. obliteration and aegis might be though. this is what i came up with. i like the idea of a self heal in siphon life and the dmg buff in against all odds stacking with soul drain and fury in said situation
(yes i'm buildling a farming toon that isnt ss/fire that can also do dev created content that is far less BORING to play than my mm's)
below is the build. when you ignore the lotg recharge baddies it doesnt seem like it would be all that expensive. i could be wrong - i havent looked at touch of death, mako and oblit pricing in a while i just know the ones i have arent selling at all 
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If I remember right, Freak Tanks are supposed to be weak to Energy as well as stuns, and EM does lots of energy damage and stuns...
Freakshow: weak to energy.
Have some energy damage and some minor EndDrain in thier attacks, which /Elec laughs off.
Have 1/2 End when they rez, which Power Sink nueters.
now consider the same mission but instead of freakshow bosses, it's all super arachnoids
any decent invul brute would not have a problem with that. You get such good S/L resistants. I am confident my Dm/Fa, Ss/invul, Ss/Fire and Dm/wp could handle that set up pretty easily. Having said my Ss/invul and Dm/fa are runing 2 plus billion builds
I can easily take 10 bosses with my /EA. I regularly run an all boss mission solo with him and herd the aggro cap without a problem. My /EA is softcapped to all defenses except negative energy and psi
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I can easily take 10 bosses with my /EA. I regularly run an all boss mission solo with him and herd the aggro cap without a problem. My /EA is softcapped to all defenses except negative energy and psi
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A well-built EA will have no trouble surviving most situations, but still won't be a good "tank" though because someone will be stripping aggro off of them on a team. You can get the attention back with an AoE, but a few seconds later it's just going to turn around after it's been shot again.
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I can easily take 10 bosses with my /EA. I regularly run an all boss mission solo with him and herd the aggro cap without a problem. My /EA is softcapped to all defenses except negative energy and psi
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A well-built EA will have no trouble surviving most situations, but still won't be a good "tank" though because someone will be stripping aggro off of them on a team. You can get the attention back with an AoE, but a few seconds later it's just going to turn around after it's been shot again.
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This is very true. It is very hard to hold aggro with /EA without taking taunt.
edit: OP's question was what will survive, I was answering that. The only brute I have played that can tank is my /stone, the rest of mine can soak up the alpha but that isn't tanking
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I can easily take 10 bosses with my /EA. I regularly run an all boss mission solo with him and herd the aggro cap without a problem. My /EA is softcapped to all defenses except negative energy and psi
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A well-built EA will have no trouble surviving most situations, but still won't be a good "tank" though because someone will be stripping aggro off of them on a team. You can get the attention back with an AoE, but a few seconds later it's just going to turn around after it's been shot again.
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This is very true. It is very hard to hold aggro with /EA without taking taunt.
edit: OP's question was what will survive, I was answering that. The only brute I have played that can tank is my /stone, the rest of mine can soak up the alpha but that isn't tanking
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can the stone also kill said bosses without a kin corruptor around?
say it's those same super arachnoids with their super high regen.
A very expensive /Stone build can counteract the -recharge penalties of Granite. Since the Brute damage cap is so high, you'll almost always be doing less damage per hit but it'll be a relatively small difference compared to Granite Tankers.
So yes, you can kill them with a Granite Brute. You just don't need a Granite Brute to survive them.
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I have 6 different level 50 brutes and of those my stone/stone, dm/wp, and wm/ea can all survive the all boss farm spawns without any problem. I prefer the wm/ea because of all the AoE he has and it makes killing the bosses much faster.
I haven't tried using the stone/stone to run all boss missions yet but I used to run around the Fab regularly and herded up huge numbers of mobs, most of the time it would include multiple bosses. Stone armor is just not as efficient of a killing machine as some other secondaries.
I would go with Smash Melee/Brute Armor. aka close your eyes and click on something.
Anyone tried mace/shield? How does that measure up?
thread necrosis ftw!
btw, tanking just fine on my sm/wp
i'm surprised after 5 years fault has never been nerfed..
um... the biggest gap i see is 5/12 to 5/20... thats hardly necro.
WP compared to stone:
So this other guy? He's a terminator too, right, like you?
TERMINATOR; Not like me. A T-1000. Advanced prototype. A mimetic polyalloy.
JOHN; What does that mean?
TERMINATOR; Liquid metal.
of course just like arnold still wins, stone is still the better tank.
Situation - MA mission with 8 people. only spawns freakshow bosses. there are 10 of them per spawn.
what brute secondary is going to survive this outside of stone? dont assume any outside buffs are present as with the villain side population on infinity such things cant be considered reliable.