Re-writting an arc


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How frowned on would I be if I used a created arc, overwrote it line by line, republished, thus keeping my old number, and entirely redid what was in it?

Thoughts?


 

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It's a bit sneaky, but I wouldn't exactly blow a gasket if I saw someone doing it. I generally judge missions more by how fun they are than how high their star rating is. The star rating doesn't honestly mean much to me, because the majority of the missions I've played that I've actually had fun in are ones that someone else recommended to me (and had like 20-30 ratings when I played them) rather than ones I randomly looked up that had 200+ ratings.


 

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You mean so that it had a completely different plot, characters, etc, etc, but the same ratings?

Doing that is another straw on the already-broken camel's back of the ratings system. If you think the system can be salvaged, things like this should be disallowed, but at this point I'm not sure I care, personally.


And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines

 

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I'm more concerned about perserving my four digit arc numbers. the larger the number the harder the customer will have to rememebr it ^^


 

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in reality - no one will notice


 

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I concur. No one's really going around memorizing arc numbers except the terminally anal retentive (or those lucky people with fabulous memories, but they're just remembering, not trying to). Titles are far more important.


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I wouldn't see why this would help break the Ratings system. If it has the same number and someone who played the 'old version' then plays the new one, they wouldn't be able to rate it. So he gains nothing in that respect as far as I see.

A side question, do you know what would happen to your 4-digit number if you unpublish it? Does that number get put into a pool to be used again or trashed? Hmm.


 

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How frowned on would I be if I used a created arc, overwrote it line by line, republished, thus keeping my old number, and entirely redid what was in it?
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Thoughts?

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I think that as long as you're talking about completely re-doing the same Arc, thus presenting a better polished version of the same story, with essentially the same events the Arc originally portrayed, it should be quite alright.

If you're talking about completely replacing the Arc with a radically different Arc, with maps, critters, NPCs and dialogs that are totally unrelated to the original Arc, that would kinda stink in my opinion.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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I wouldn't see why this would help break the Ratings system. If it has the same number and someone who played the 'old version' then plays the new one, they wouldn't be able to rate it. So he gains nothing in that respect as far as I see.

A side question, do you know what would happen to your 4-digit number if you unpublish it? Does that number get put into a pool to be used again or trashed? Hmm.

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From our perspective, it's trashed, it's kept more then likely in archieve as evidence for farm tracking and content tracking, if I understand evidence control


-C.A.


 

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I wouldn't see why this would help break the Ratings system. If it has the same number and someone who played the 'old version' then plays the new one, they wouldn't be able to rate it. So he gains nothing in that respect as far as I see.

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Agreed.

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A side question, do you know what would happen to your 4-digit number if you unpublish it? Does that number get put into a pool to be used again or trashed? Hmm.

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Currently, as I understand it, unpublished ID's are not re-cycled.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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How frowned on would I be if I used a created arc, overwrote it line by line, republished, thus keeping my old number, and entirely redid what was in it?
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Thoughts?

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I think that as long as you're talking about completely re-doing the same Arc, thus presenting a better polished version of the same story, with essentially the same events the Arc originally portrayed, it should be quite alright.

If you're talking about completely replacing the Arc with a radically different Arc, with maps, critters, NPCs and dialogs that are totally unrelated to the original Arc, that would kinda stink in my opinion.

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The second.

I threw that up there to get a decent number, it's easier for someone to remember four digits then what..7 now?

Thank you for your feedback, I'm interested on why it would stick?

-C.A.


 

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Trying to keep your four digit number is like paying attention to your post count on the boards. It's ultimately meaningless.

Ooo, you're at 1400! Which means...nothing at all, really.


Dec out.

 

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Trying to keep your four digit number is like paying attention to your post count on the boards. It's ultimately meaningless.

Ooo, you're at 1400! Which means...nothing at all, really.

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1400 is not nearly as good as 1337


 

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The second.
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I threw that up there to get a decent number, it's easier for someone to remember four digits then what..7 now?
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Thank you for your feedback, I'm interested on why it would stick?

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Because you get to keep your rating which may ensure your Arc gets a "better" placement in the MA Browser when people would be looking for arcs to play. Why should your essentially new Arc get a better "starting position" than someone elses'?

You're also creating the impression that the Arc already has an established player-base that already played and voted on the Arc itself. If I were to take Childhood Horrors (#5349) with its 4-star ranking spread across 41 votes, and then replace it with a new arc with a different title and different content, I'd basically be claiming that the new Arc was voted on by 41 people with the average rank of 4-stars. That's essentially a lie, isn't it?


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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Hmm...Interesting point. I had not considered it from that angle.

Thank you!

-C.A.


 

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One disadvantage of revising an existing arc is that the people who have run the previous arc won't know it's new -- it won't even show up when they browse unless they untick the 'show me only arcs I haven't run yet' thingie. The only way they'll see it is if they're trying to find arcs they've already run or your arc specifically, in which case they may be disappointed to discover that it's different. Since these folks already ran your first arc, you could consider them 'returning customers' who would have an interest in a new arc you make even though it has a different number.

I don't actually try and remember arc numbers -- pen and paper are my friends.


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Huh. Another good point. Thanks! o_O


 

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Trying to keep your four digit number is like paying attention to your post count on the boards. It's ultimately meaningless.

Ooo, you're at 1400! Which means...nothing at all, really.

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1400 is not nearly as good as 1337

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I could forgive the ratings shenanigans for someone who wanted to keep 1337... particularly if the new version involved the Freakshow.


And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines