Let there be no rest until we can appropriately emulate the Village People in full!!
Seriously though,many people have issue with the use and appropriation of their respective flags for recreational means. I understand if this is part of the reason that flags are not part of the current cape line up. SH costumes tend to be allusions to, not full replica of, the flag of origin as not to slight the veterans of said country.
The only way I can see an international pack being a good idea is if there was a literal ton of assorted choices as to not turn it into a game of perceived favorites. And I want a sombrero.
Edit: Clarity: Post is directed at socioalchemist.
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The important fact is not that you have stereotypes, it's that you don't judge every individual as per the connotations involved with these.
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That seems like if you say, "two plus two equals five!" and someone else comes along and says, "No, you're adding wrong. Two plus two equals four," and your rebuttal was, "Ha-ha! Your answer uses arithmetic too!"
Y' may have missed the point a little.
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Let there be no rest until we can appropriately emulate the Village People in full!!
Seriously though,many people have issue with the use and appropriation of their respective flags for recreational means. I understand if this is part of the reason that flags are not part of the current cape line up. SH costumes tend to be allusions to, not full replica of, the flag of origin as not to slight the veterans of said country.
The only way I can see an international pack being a good idea is if there was a literal ton of assorted choices as to not turn it into a game of perceived favorites. And I want a sombrero.
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There's also legal issues. Some countries (in which this game has customers in) have laws that prohibit the manner in which their nations symbol (the flag) can be portrayed. So the flag pattern cannot be used in any other manner than on a flag.
Even the US has federal flag laws although they aren't enforced.
Not quite, Forbin...
I meant what I said. It's been Westernized to the point of being culturally 'cleansed'. Say what you will but we'll still have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which are about as Japanese as their names.
As for most of the items on that list you're pointing to Western Cultures (or Americanized items). Many of which are predominant portions of our genetic makeup. Irish, Scottish, German, Native American (1/16th, here!). English. Only a handful are African/Middle Eastern. And the items that ARE from the Middle East or Africa are weapons (Khopesh and Scimitar) or symbols of a religion noone follows anymore (Eye of Horus and the Ankh).
Meanwhile if we put turbans in the game you can stake money on how many 'Terror1st' characters will spring up JUST so they can offend someone.
Hell! How many Santa Clauses do you see every year? Now add in cultural bias, hatred, religious fervor, and a symbol of modern pain.
Sure. Let's put turbans in the game right next to little Hitler moustaches and swastikas. YES I'm comparing it to Nazism. Give Godwin's law another tick mark.
But Terrorists are this generations nazi germany. It's the group we can look down on and despise and feel superior to.
Give people the tools to make those characters in the game and you'll see them running around, pissing people off, and reminding them of the reality that they play this game to escape from.
-Rachel-
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Hell! How many Santa Clauses do you see every year? Now add in cultural bias, hatred, religious fervor, and a symbol of modern pain.
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Kind of a funny thing to bring up seeing as they added ol St. Nick's costume parts to the game.
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Not quite, Forbin...
I meant what I said. It's been Westernized to the point of being culturally 'cleansed'. Say what you will but we'll still have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which are about as Japanese as their names.
As for most of the items on that list you're pointing to Western Cultures (or Americanized items). Many of which are predominant portions of our genetic makeup. Irish, Scottish, German, Native American (1/16th, here!). English. Only a handful are African/Middle Eastern. And the items that ARE from the Middle East or Africa are weapons (Khopesh and Scimitar) or symbols of a religion noone follows anymore (Eye of Horus and the Ankh).
Meanwhile if we put turbans in the game you can stake money on how many 'Terror1st' characters will spring up JUST so they can offend someone.
Hell! How many Santa Clauses do you see every year? Now add in cultural bias, hatred, religious fervor, and a symbol of modern pain.
Sure. Let's put turbans in the game right next to little Hitler moustaches and swastikas. YES I'm comparing it to Nazism. Give Godwin's law another tick mark.
But Terrorists are this generations nazi germany. It's the group we can look down on and despise and feel superior to.
Give people the tools to make those characters in the game and you'll see them running around, pissing people off, and reminding them of the reality that they play this game to escape from.
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Right, and anyone who makes those characters will be genericed just as surely as someone who makes a Nazi or any other offensive character. Refusing to allow costume pieces on the justification that some morons might misuse it can basically be applied no matter what you're adding.
Of course, this is all beside the point in the first case because the "classical" turban that you're probably thinking of is more closely related to Sikhism than to Islam. No, they're not the same thing.
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Sartre once said, "Hell is other people." What does that make an MMO?
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I'm thinking Turkish, personally.
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That, that right there, I need that. NEED. That. With the feather.
I mean, fortune tellers! Genies! The "not" politically incorrect options are WAY more fun!
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Meanwhile if we put turbans in the game you can stake money on how many 'Terror1st' characters will spring up JUST so they can offend someone.
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I've got to disagree that this is, honestly, an issue. Sure, some people will do it - and get generic'd, if not banned. People make scantily (or as near as they can to completely un-)clad female characters in game with derogatory names and bios.
Should we remove those pieces?
Besides, right now I can make a character and have him or her pull a "suicide bomber" routine in a mission with the Cyborg pack (or, if I'm a Traps MM, have one of my pets do so, no other pack needed.)
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How many Jesus-this or that characters? They pop up regardless. There's no need for cultural bios, religion or, as you put it, a symbol of modern pain - some people will just do it anyway.
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Sure. Let's put turbans in the game right next to little Hitler moustaches and swastikas. YES I'm comparing it to Nazism. Give Godwin's law another tick mark.
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The swastika far predates Naziism. Until the mid 40s, it was used by the Finnish air force as their insignia, as well as (think I'm remembering this right) the Latvian, among others. It was even part of many US Army Air Corps squadron insignia, such as the 1st Aero Squadron. It's used in cultures across the globe, including Native American. One *specific* rendering of it tends to be Nazi related. Other than that, for some it is, in fact, a religious symbol.
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And we don't need turbans to do it. In fact, I could make a character in jeans and a T-shirt and call him a terrorist. "Terrorist" is not an ethnic or religious group. "Terrorist" is not based on race. There are Japanese terrorists. European terrorists. "Eco-terrorists." All there needs to be is a cause and people willing to do violence, not caring who it hurts.
Plus, we don't need the threat of terrorists to find someone to look down on. Racism and class-ism has always existed.
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Give people the tools to make those characters in the game and you'll see them running around, pissing people off, and reminding them of the reality that they play this game to escape from.
-Rachel-
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Again, they're already in game. The only way you're going to eliminate any chance of that is to make everybody exactly the same, provide serial numbers to characters and supergroups so people can't offend with a name, and remove all forms of chat and email completely.
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How about adding some Native American pieces too then?
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This. Want more of this.
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And yet none of the costume items were released in the context used.
And I find it funny how the rabbi looks nothing like a rabbi. What stereotype are you using for him?
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I went to google images, typed in "rabbi" and tried to amalgamate the first page results into something which could be roughly translated into the character creator. This fella here was more or less what I was aiming for.
I do find it interesting that the word "stereotype" is treated like some sort of nouveau-profanity. You'll find that the imam, priest and nun don't look much like their respective real life day-to-day counterparts either, but you don't seem to have much issue with them likely because they suit your exemplar of what these characters do look like. The important fact is not that you have stereotypes, it's that you don't judge every individual as per the connotations involved with these.
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Judging my judgment...
Pot, meet kettle. Enjoy.
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I'm not judging anything. I said that it was interesting, not that it was right or wrong.
My story arcs: #2370- Noah Reborn, #18672- The Clockwork War, #31490- Easy Money
Sartre once said, "Hell is other people." What does that make an MMO?